PC gaming not cheaper than consoles years later

[khalasar]

Third time upgrading and third time spending more money to completely rebuild it. Pretty much 4060 and 12600kf with a new cooler for the new Mobo of course that need a PCIE not ssta nvme. About 600+... (Excluding HDD and power supply issues) The PS5 is way better value for price? 70 dollars a year is obviously nothing when you consider upgrading every 2-3 years.

[76561199648916059]

I really like some of the replies here, have to agree, lower settings and focus on games a few years old this will give you a great experience on a current PC, but don't just focus on games, the PC offers a large variety of i\o options that consoles don't.

[Crazy Tiger]

If things suit your needs, they have "better value" for yourself. For some that's PC, for some consoles, for others a mix of different devices.

[Brian9824]

Originalmente postado por Drowsy:

Third time upgrading and third time spending more money to completely rebuild it. Pretty much 4060 and 12600kf with a new cooler for the new Mobo of course that need a PCIE not ssta nvme. About 600+... (Excluding HDD and power supply issues) The PS5 is way better value for price? 70 dollars a year is obviously nothing when you consider upgrading every 2-3 years.

part of the problem is your cheaping out on some of the critical stuff which is why your having to upgrade so often. A 4060 is about the lowest possible video card i'd suggest, a 4070 would be a bit more money, but you'd add at least 2 years most likely to how long it would be before you had to update ever again as its significantly more powerful

[J4MESOX4D]

Why would it be cheaper? That's a bizarre expectation. You will save money with cheaper games and not having to pay for online services but other than that, PC gaming is and will always be more expensive, however the extra quality and flexibility makes it miles better. Console gaming has become more expensive but it'll never eclipse PC gaming although the latter has remained well-priced without being obliterated by inflation.

[Haruspex]

Console is cheaper.

It used to be you could build a PC that would outperform current consoles for less than that console cost. This is extremely difficult to do now without some very clever shopping and deal hunting. Generally though, $500 will not net you a PS5 or Series X equivalent PC. You can certainly play games on a $500 PC, even current gen games, but it's not faster than a current console.

However I personally think that if you start thinking longer term, you're going to get much more value out of sticking to PC gaming. Let me explain;

When you buy a PC game, you are buying it not only for your current PC, but for every PC you will ever own, forever. Buy that game today, and 20 years from now you'll still be able to play it on whatever future PC you have by then at 16k, 800 fps, ultra settings, plugged into your neural interface, or whatever it is we'll have in 20 years.

When you buy a console game, 20 years from now that console will have moved on by another couple of generations. There's no guarantee that the game you bought will be backwards compatible. You'll have had to have kept that old hardware running, and that's assuming the company even kept the old servers running for your old console. Meanwhile they have the "remastered" edition of the same game you bought for sale again at full price.

How many of your PS3 games can you play today on your PS5? How many of your Gamecube games can you load up on your Nintendo Switch?

Meanwhile on PC, I can literally play all the games, from all of gaming history, and I expect I will be able to continue to do so as the decades roll on. (Including console games! Albeit unofficially.)

On top of that, you have a PC, which is much more than just a box that plays video games. There's a lot of utility there. Honestly being able to play games is just a bonus.

[Start_Running]

Originalmente postado por Haruspex:

Console is cheaper.

It used to be you could build a PC that would outperform current consoles for less than that console cost. This is extremely difficult to do now without some very clever shopping and deal hunting. Generally though, $500 will not net you a PS5 or Series X equivalent PC. You can certainly play games on a $500 PC, even current gen games, but it's not faster than a current console.

This kinda depends on WHen you try to build that PC.
If you build it around the same time the console launches. Yeah. But if you build it a year or so into the console's life cycle...then the differences start to vanish.

[Spawn of Totoro]

PC gaming IS cheaper.

The PC it's self, is not.

When people say PC gaming is cheaper then console, it is due to the cost of the games and the size of the PC game catalog.

A PC is also a multi-function device, allowing you to do far more with it then you can on a console.

[BJWyler]

For less than $1000 I can get a PC that will allow me to play (and even stream) pretty much every game on the market, and I can generally get away with using that PC for the better part of a decade before I need to start upgrading or replacing it.

Pound for pound, a PC will always give you more value for the money over a console.

[KharnTheKhan]

Originalmente postado por Drowsy:

Third time upgrading and third time spending more money to completely rebuild it. Pretty much 4060 and 12600kf with a new cooler for the new Mobo of course that need a PCIE not ssta nvme. About 600+... (Excluding HDD and power supply issues) The PS5 is way better value for price? 70 dollars a year is obviously nothing when you consider upgrading every 2-3 years.

Sony is pretty anti-consumer, Youre constantly losing out on licenses,servers,have to pay monthly for online use, Sure a good pc will cost 2K but you dont have to upgrade it every few years if you dont want to, And dont forget most new games that are 70 on console can barely maintain 30fps.Plus game sales are usually pretty bad, Steam has multi yearly sales not counting third party. Once you get over the initial cost of entry with pc youre looking at 30+ years of game library

[nullable]

Originalmente postado por Drowsy:

Third time upgrading and third time spending more money to completely rebuild it. Pretty much 4060 and 12600kf with a new cooler for the new Mobo of course that need a PCIE not ssta nvme. About 600+... (Excluding HDD and power supply issues) The PS5 is way better value for price? 70 dollars a year is obviously nothing when you consider upgrading every 2-3 years.

I love PC gaming. But I never felt one of its strengths were price. And I think all the people that try to argue it's cheaper just want to win a pc vs consoles debate, they don't really care if they're right. Or they're so biased they assume any favorable presentation must be right.

You can PC game for a modest amount of money. But you can't compete against console pricing or lifespans, not really. A $500 PC isn't going to be a viable gaming machine as long as a console. So it's game over pretty much from there obviously.

But if someone is determined to believe their choice is the smartest, best, most economical choice, they can engage whatever mental gymnastics to believe it. They're fools. And whoever chooses to believe their story telling might also be foolish.

[KharnTheKhan]

Originalmente postado por nullable:

Originalmente postado por Drowsy:

Third time upgrading and third time spending more money to completely rebuild it. Pretty much 4060 and 12600kf with a new cooler for the new Mobo of course that need a PCIE not ssta nvme. About 600+... (Excluding HDD and power supply issues) The PS5 is way better value for price? 70 dollars a year is obviously nothing when you consider upgrading every 2-3 years.

I love PC gaming. But I never felt one of its strengths were price. And I think all the people that try to argue it's cheaper just want to win a pc vs consoles debate, they don't really care if they're right. Or they're so biased they assume any favorable presentation must be right.

You can PC game for a modest amount of money. But you can't compete against console pricing or lifespans, not really. A $500 PC isn't going to be a viable gaming machine as long as a console. So it's game over pretty much from there obviously.

But if someone is determined to believe their choice is the smartest, best, most economical choice, they can engage whatever mental gymnastics to believe it. They're fools. And whoever chooses to believe their story telling might also be foolish.

Depends on how you perceive value for 500+tax it gets you a console(ps5) that only has about 30 first party games and can play the previous generation(ps4), 500+tax pc on the otherhand gets no current gen games but you can play anything before 2016 which is still thousands of games, If you only wanna play the newest games, albeit a gimped experience(30fps and sometimes can barely run) then by all means buy the ps5 as its the better value

[BJWyler]

Originalmente postado por nullable:

Originalmente postado por Drowsy:

Third time upgrading and third time spending more money to completely rebuild it. Pretty much 4060 and 12600kf with a new cooler for the new Mobo of course that need a PCIE not ssta nvme. About 600+... (Excluding HDD and power supply issues) The PS5 is way better value for price? 70 dollars a year is obviously nothing when you consider upgrading every 2-3 years.

I love PC gaming. But I never felt one of its strengths were price. And I think all the people that try to argue it's cheaper just want to win a pc vs consoles debate, they don't really care if they're right. Or they're so biased they assume any favorable presentation must be right.

You can PC game for a modest amount of money. But you can't compete against console pricing or lifespans, not really. A $500 PC isn't going to be a viable gaming machine as long as a console. So it's game over pretty much from there obviously.

But if someone is determined to believe their choice is the smartest, best, most economical choice, they can engage whatever mental gymnastics to believe it. They're fools. And whoever chooses to believe their story telling might also be foolish.

However, it's not.

Aside from the basic functionality and versatility that makes a PC more useful, the lifespan isn't divergent at all.

I'm still using my original NES and SNES. I still have both my original Intellivision and Intellivision II packed up somewhere - though whether they function is a different matter. Doesn't matter though because I can play those games on my PC.

I also still have physical PCs going back to the 5.25" floppy days that still function as good as my old consoles. I can virtualize any of my PCs and use them indefinitely.

Ultimately there is no contest. As I said, pound for pound, a PC gives you the most bang for the buck. That has nothing to do with Master Race arguments or anything else. It's just the observable experience of the last 40 odd years.

Where consoles do have the advantage is the ease of use when gaming. It's essentially plug and play, and you never have to worry about things like compatibility or hardware requirements.

[Soren]

Originalmente postado por Spawn of Totoro:

PC gaming IS cheaper.

The PC it's self, is not.

When people say PC gaming is cheaper then console, it is due to the cost of the games and the size of the PC game catalog.

A PC is also a multi-function device, allowing you to do far more with it then you can on a console.

Sales culture is about the same. As in you can see some major discounts on console games. But yeah, the PC back catalogue paired with it makes all the difference.

Gamepass is a good deal money per game played, if you don't mind renting games, but I suppose PC players can use it too if they want. It's just got 10% less games than it's xbox counterpart.

[nullable]

Originalmente postado por KharnTheKhan:

Depends on how you perceive value for 500+tax it gets you a console(ps5) that only has about 30 first party games and can play the previous generation(ps4), 500+tax pc on the otherhand gets no current gen games but you can play anything before 2016 which is still thousands of games, If you only wanna play the newest games, albeit a gimped experience(30fps and sometimes can barely run) then by all means buy the ps5 as its the better value

In this case my "perceived" value is the how much money each option costs in money.

Originalmente postado por BJWyler:

However, it's not.

Aside from the basic functionality and versatility that makes a PC more useful, the lifespan isn't divergent at all.

I'm still using my original NES and SNES. I still have both my original Intellivision and Intellivision II packed up somewhere - though whether they function is a different matter. Doesn't matter though because I can play those games on my PC.

I also still have physical PCs going back to the 5.25" floppy days that still function as good as my old consoles. I can virtualize any of my PCs and use them indefinitely.

Ultimately there is no contest. As I said, pound for pound, a PC gives you the most bang for the buck. That has nothing to do with Master Race arguments or anything else. It's just the observable experience of the last 40 odd years.

Where consoles do have the advantage is the ease of use when gaming. It's essentially plug and play, and you never have to worry about things like compatibility or hardware requirements.

Seems like a lot of mental gymnastics to try and make $1,000 seem like less than $500 to me.

PCs are great. Consoles are cheap. That's the way it is. Frankly for the cost of PC's you'd better be able to do a lot more with them than a console. And you can, enjoy your hobby, it doesn't need to be more cost effective than a similar hobby to be justified. You don't need a half a dozen asterisks to explain the cost differences.

[xBCxRangers]

Gotta go with console. It's cheaper, more convenient, and some of these rumors gaining a lot of momentum seem promising.

Xbox will be a Steam Machine before long. And you can still play games in your library, on Steam thru Ge Force Now on Edge thru your Xbox.

Games itself today may be going thru a lull, but tech is advancing at such a rate, you'll be able to play your Steam thru many other devices, that are much cheaper and convenient.