can an account get terminated for too many "community bans" ?

[DEMANATI]

my account recently got an alert because i was banned too many times from community hubs.
Mind you, i NEVER said hate speech or anything extreme. i simply express my beliefs (which appose the lefty agenda and i dont even say slurs or anything uncivilized), or i talk ♥♥♥♥ to trolls that spam game hubs (yet they dont get banned for spam) Mods have been abusing there power on me and its not fair. One time in the "nothing game" i said " " and i was banned for "saying nothing useful".

what im asking is, will my account get terminated if i keep getting banned from hubs and lose access to all my paid games?

[xBCxRangers]

Intelligent Jew Businessman a écrit :

xBCxRangers a écrit :

I think it's almost impossible to be perma banned (except for cheating). I think i was banned about 42 times on this very hub, and only once did i get a community ban.

And that only happened, being i was banned from a hub, and came here right after, and got banned again. That constituted a community ban, for like three days or something.

Cheating may be the big thing though.

I can link you a screenshot of one of the generic named indian support guy telling me its possible to be perm banned from the community but they are always manually reviewed for perm bans.

Oh well they're gonna "say" its possible. And on the books likely is. But i haven't seen it happen. You would really have to go out your way, and purposely just try and get banned from every hub you visit, to get perma banned from Steam.

I had people telling me 30 bans ago, i was going to be perma banned. The opposite happened, where they overturn all the bans. Its not easy by any stretch.

[cSg|mc-Hotsauce]

potato a écrit :

cSg|mc-Hotsauce a écrit :

That's an account login lock, normally reserved for compromised accounts that were reported because it was hijacked and spamming scam links. They have to go through account recovery to have support unlock the login for it.

yea, but i know some people who got those cause someone mistakenly reported them for fraud and they had to wait like three days for valve to sort it out

Fraud is just as bad as a compromised account. They just usually have different intentions behind the cause.

Compromised accounts are far more prevalent than fraud but for an account login lock for fraud would have to be for an enormous dollar amount.

[Intelligent Jew Businessman]

xBCxRangers a écrit :

Intelligent Jew Businessman a écrit :

I can link you a screenshot of one of the generic named indian support guy telling me its possible to be perm banned from the community but they are always manually reviewed for perm bans.

Oh well they're gonna "say" its possible. And on the books likely is. But i haven't seen it happen. You would really have to go out your way, and purposely just try and get banned from every hub you visit, to get perma banned from Steam.

I had people telling me 30 bans ago, i was going to be perma banned. The opposite happened, where they overturn all the bans. Its not easy by any stretch.

Well, thats good to know since it feels like if I fart in the wrong direction I will get another week ban at this point.

Oh well.

I would imagine a real steam employee must issue a perm ban from the communtiy. The indian contractors dont have that power.

[Mad Scientist]

xBCxRangers a écrit :

Intelligent Jew Businessman a écrit :

I can link you a screenshot of one of the generic named indian support guy telling me its possible to be perm banned from the community but they are always manually reviewed for perm bans.

Oh well they're gonna "say" its possible. And on the books likely is. But i haven't seen it happen. You would really have to go out your way, and purposely just try and get banned from every hub you visit, to get perma banned from Steam.

I had people telling me 30 bans ago, i was going to be perma banned. The opposite happened, where they overturn all the bans. Its not easy by any stretch.

I have seen permanent community bans be applied, and a good amount of accounts entirely deleted from Steam for their behavior in the community. Severity or amount over time can easily have increased consequences, especially if a user does not make their behavior better.

[xBCxRangers]

Intelligent Jew Businessman a écrit :

xBCxRangers a écrit :

Oh well they're gonna "say" its possible. And on the books likely is. But i haven't seen it happen. You would really have to go out your way, and purposely just try and get banned from every hub you visit, to get perma banned from Steam.

I had people telling me 30 bans ago, i was going to be perma banned. The opposite happened, where they overturn all the bans. Its not easy by any stretch.

Well, thats good to know since it feels like if I fart in the wrong direction I will get another week ban at this point.

Oh well.

I would imagine a real steam employee must issue a perm ban from the communtiy. The indian contractors dont have that power.

Oh believe me, i've been where you are at that point. "Anything", and when i say anything, literally anything was getting me banned. And that's how i knew i was targeted by report spam.

From that point on, i tallied so many, i think they felt the time being wasted on the appeals for such nonsense bans, not worth their time, they were right, and it stopped.

You just have to make sure you're on topic, i'd stay away from anything politics, and don't get baited. Just report them, as you know they'll report you.

[xBCxRangers]

Mad Scientist a écrit :

xBCxRangers a écrit :

Oh well they're gonna "say" its possible. And on the books likely is. But i haven't seen it happen. You would really have to go out your way, and purposely just try and get banned from every hub you visit, to get perma banned from Steam.

I had people telling me 30 bans ago, i was going to be perma banned. The opposite happened, where they overturn all the bans. Its not easy by any stretch.

I have seen permanent community bans be applied, and a good amount of accounts entirely deleted from Steam for their behavior in the community. Severity or amount over time can easily have increased consequences, especially if a user does not make their behavior better.

Well it def happens on the game hubs (i can attest), but here, they have to make the ban at least "stick". If they're all being overturned, that's a community issue, not a user issue.

They have to start banning people for spamming reports. Reports aren't a "downvote". Reports are supposed to be for bad behavior and i think it ended up being abused, and due to that, very tough to permanently ban someone here just for statements.

[Spawn of Totoro]

xBCxRangers a écrit :

Mad Scientist a écrit :

I have seen permanent community bans be applied, and a good amount of accounts entirely deleted from Steam for their behavior in the community. Severity or amount over time can easily have increased consequences, especially if a user does not make their behavior better.

Well it def happens on the game hubs (i can attest), but here, they have to make the ban at least "stick". If they're all being overturned, that's a community issue, not a user issue.

They have to start banning people for spamming reports. Reports aren't a "downvote". Reports are supposed to be for bad behavior and i think it ended up being abused, and due to that, very tough to permanently ban someone here just for statements.

Permanent bans have and do happen in these forums.

Valve tends to be a bit more forgiving in these discussion though, as it is the only place to go to for help/support with Steam.

Banning for reporting will never happen as that would discourage people from reporting in general.

Spamming reports is pointless as well. If a post gets cleared of a report, all future reports on it will still show as cleared as well. One issue we had with the system as volunteers and kept pointing out, but nothing ever changed. So all a report does is bring the attention of the possible rule violation to moderation and that only takes one report to do.

[Mad Scientist]

xBCxRangers a écrit :

Mad Scientist a écrit :

I have seen permanent community bans be applied, and a good amount of accounts entirely deleted from Steam for their behavior in the community. Severity or amount over time can easily have increased consequences, especially if a user does not make their behavior better.

Well it def happens on the game hubs (i can attest), but here, they have to make the ban at least "stick". If they're all being overturned, that's a community issue, not a user issue.

They have to start banning people for spamming reports. Reports aren't a "downvote". Reports are supposed to be for bad behavior and i think it ended up being abused, and due to that, very tough to permanently ban someone here just for statements.

Only a single report matters, no matter how many people report one single thing. It goes into the report queue, they read the content, and take action if needed. You were informed of this multiple times that the amount of reports do not matter.

As for overturning, they're far too lenient with that especially when the community knows the very negative reputation of specific individuals, so they should make it stick to keep the peace in the community - especially if it's automated from being removed from 2 or more game hubs within a short period of time.

[Spawn of Totoro]

Mad Scientist a écrit :

As for overturning, they're far too lenient with that especially when the community knows the very negative reputation of specific individuals, so they should make it stick to keep the peace in the community - especially if it's automated from being removed from 2 or more game hubs within a short period of time.

Yep.

Moderators deal with reports, support is more forgiving and are the ones who review moderator actions, then a user wants to contest it.

Think of Moderators as the strict parent and Support as the more lenient parent, who overrides the first.

[xBCxRangers]

Mad Scientist a écrit :

xBCxRangers a écrit :

Well it def happens on the game hubs (i can attest), but here, they have to make the ban at least "stick". If they're all being overturned, that's a community issue, not a user issue.

They have to start banning people for spamming reports. Reports aren't a "downvote". Reports are supposed to be for bad behavior and i think it ended up being abused, and due to that, very tough to permanently ban someone here just for statements.

Only a single report matters, no matter how many people report one single thing. It goes into the report queue, they read the content, and take action if needed. You were informed of this multiple times that the amount of reports do not matter.

As for overturning, they're far too lenient with that especially when the community knows the very negative reputation of specific individuals, so they should make it stick to keep the peace in the community - especially if it's automated from being removed from 2 or more game hubs within a short period of time.

If folks were responsible, knew the rules as you said you do, and treated people with dignity and respect, Moderation would take you more seriously.

But what i've found (and i certainly have more experience than you), are the biggest instigators, are the biggest to cite us the rules, and they go bye bye when they break the rules, which is becoming much more common in recent months.

That's not being lenient, it's enforcing the rules as they should be enforced. Fairly.

This community is not yours. It is not mine. It belongs to Valve and Mr Newell, and given that, no "reputation" needs to be had, by anyone or anybody, to please you.

That will never happen, and i am a perfect example.

Therefore, moderation will not leave it up to others to judge. They will make the judgement, and have made them in overturning unwarranted bans.

[Intelligent Jew Businessman]

PaulKrawitz a écrit :

Intelligent Jew Businessman a écrit :

Well, thats good to know since it feels like if I fart in the wrong direction I will get another week ban at this point.

Oh well.

I would imagine a real steam employee must issue a perm ban from the communtiy. The indian contractors dont have that power.

Always keep an eye on the direction of the wind when farting. 😁

Meh, i dont care that much. If you are offended by the smell of my farts, i guess that's your problem.

[Leader of the Zakonistians]

DEMANATI a écrit :

xBCxRangers a écrit :

Well, that don't seem like spam at all. Just matters people may not want to hear, that's not spam though.

exactly, and thats not even ban worthy, i reported l*li p8rn in a artwork tab and it took months for them to take action. yet i get perma banned over a molotov joke

Yeah, I agree that would upset me too

[Icedfate]

I mean, the community banning is getting kinda BS. .

I was in a forum and a user said "i hate how this (male character) is the protagonist, because he's bland and the story doesn't even focus on him. instead it focused on the (female companion). she shoulda been the protagonist"

then the next guy says "yeah, she was actually supposed to be the MC, but the dev feared the backlash from the incel community"

neither of these guys got banned.

i just chimed in and said "yeah, i don't understand the hate that female MC get. are guys that insecure or are they just trolling?"


and i got freaking banned for "derailing te discussion"

like WTF. the other 2 were the ones talking about it, and yet i was the one who got banned.

the mods even deleted my comment..

i came back in a few days later and posted "how come those guys got to say what they said, but then i got banned?"

and i got banned again for "being argumentative"

and yeah, i knew that second one was gonna get me banned, but i said it anyway just to plant the seed in whomever had a chance to read it before it got deleted, about the hypocrisy and the double standard of these mods.

both times, i appealed it and the support person just says "we reviewd the ban and determined it was applied correctly" and then closed the ticket.

I'm at te point, i don't even want to post anymore. . .

[DEMANATI]

Icedfate a écrit :

I mean, the community banning is getting kinda BS. .

I was in a forum and a user said "i hate how this (male character) is the protagonist, because he's bland and the story doesn't even focus on him. instead it focused on the (female companion). she shoulda been the protagonist"

then the next guy says "yeah, she was actually supposed to be the MC, but the dev feared the backlash from the incel community"

neither of these guys got banned.

i just chimed in and said "yeah, i don't understand the hate that female MC get. are guys that insecure or are they just trolling?"


and i got freaking banned for "derailing te discussion"

like WTF. the other 2 were the ones talking about it, and yet i was the one who got banned.

the mods even deleted my comment..

i came back in a few days later and posted "how come those guys got to say what they said, but then i got banned?"

and i got banned again for "being argumentative"

and yeah, i knew that second one was gonna get me banned, but i said it anyway just to plant the seed in whomever had a chance to read it before it got deleted, about the hypocrisy and the double standard of these mods.

both times, i appealed it and the support person just says "we reviewd the ban and determined it was applied correctly" and then closed the ticket.

I'm at te point, i don't even want to post anymore. . .

SAME, im starting to believe the mods for these forums are just redditors or 4channers working from home or something

[Intelligent Jew Businessman]

Icedfate a écrit :

I mean, the community banning is getting kinda BS. .

I was in a forum and a user said "i hate how this (male character) is the protagonist, because he's bland and the story doesn't even focus on him. instead it focused on the (female companion). she shoulda been the protagonist"

then the next guy says "yeah, she was actually supposed to be the MC, but the dev feared the backlash from the incel community"

neither of these guys got banned.

i just chimed in and said "yeah, i don't understand the hate that female MC get. are guys that insecure or are they just trolling?"


and i got freaking banned for "derailing te discussion"

like WTF. the other 2 were the ones talking about it, and yet i was the one who got banned.

the mods even deleted my comment..

i came back in a few days later and posted "how come those guys got to say what they said, but then i got banned?"

and i got banned again for "being argumentative"

and yeah, i knew that second one was gonna get me banned, but i said it anyway just to plant the seed in whomever had a chance to read it before it got deleted, about the hypocrisy and the double standard of these mods.

both times, i appealed it and the support person just says "we reviewd the ban and determined it was applied correctly" and then closed the ticket.

I'm at te point, i don't even want to post anymore. . .

If you have any unpopular opinion and generate a lot of reports, legit or not, you will be banned. The 'guidelines' are written in a way to support this lazy way of 'moderating'.

Mods are contracted and get paid literal peanuts by USD standards so you have to expect you get what you pay for.