The problem with Steam wokeism

[⭐Rodent⭐]

When a company goes woke, most intelligent and ethical directors leave the job. That's why we see decadence in Hollywood and video games.

https://ibb.co/qYqCmwM

Steam, a trillion-dollar company that makes millions per day, is unable to solve a problem with a script to upload photos that even a child can program.

[Tito Shivan]

D. Flame lähetti viestin:

Like if say, 10 people apply from group A, and 6 of them are qualified, and 10 people apply from group B, but only 4 of them are qualified. If you need to hire 10 people total, then the logical conclusion would be to hire the 6 of group A, and the 4 from group B, leaving you with 10 qualified individuals.

See, you've done exactly what I'm saying.

[D. Flame]

Tito Shivan lähetti viestin:

D. Flame lähetti viestin:

Like if say, 10 people apply from group A, and 6 of them are qualified, and 10 people apply from group B, but only 4 of them are qualified. If you need to hire 10 people total, then the logical conclusion would be to hire the 6 of group A, and the 4 from group B, leaving you with 10 qualified individuals.

See, you've done exactly what I'm saying.

No, I have just explained to you how basic math works.

10% of 22,000,000 = 2,200,000
10% of 7,000,000 = 700,000

10% = 10%

2,200,000 > 700,000

[Tito Shivan]

D. Flame lähetti viestin:

Tito Shivan lähetti viestin:

See, you've done exactly what I'm saying.

No, I have just explained to you how basic math works.

10% of 22,000,000 = 2,200,000
10% of 7,000,000 = 700,000

10% = 10%

2,200,000 > 700,000

Maths have way less to do with hiring processes than you think. HR departments aren't vulcans.

[D. Flame]

Tito Shivan lähetti viestin:

D. Flame lähetti viestin:

No, I have just explained to you how basic math works.

10% of 22,000,000 = 2,200,000
10% of 7,000,000 = 700,000

10% = 10%

2,200,000 > 700,000

Maths have way less to do with hiring processes than you think. HR departments aren't vulcans.

It has a massive amount to do with available workers and bargaining power.

[hazydistance]

Tito Shivan lähetti viestin:

hazydistance lähetti viestin:

"Both sides" of which issue now?

The part where people think hiring people of a certain skin color brings a higher chance of not hiring 'qualified' people over doing the same with a different skin color.

You're bound to an equal outcome both sides. It's just a bigot argument against the minority of your choice.

(skin color is perfectly exchangeable for gender, sexuality, )

Well, Q-to-the-E-to-the-D. Who exactly is bringing "certain skin colors" or minority statuses into consideration as hiring criteria? Certainly not the ones who argue that it should be based on aptitude, unless you take the controversial position that those skin colors etc. have a direct bearing on that aptitude. And the only way around that inconvenient fact is the blanket denial of the actual argument, employing inflammatory accusations of "bigotry" in lieu of criticism.

Since I'm very liberal with the benefit of doubt, I'm going to assume anyone so blithely enacting the very move I identified and condemned in my post as a purported response to it has merely been misled by the prevailing fashions and is not being knowingly malicious. However, I have to point out the very real harm in stoking this particular fire: as I said, it's conjuring up the very strawman it posited as a justification in the form of a predictable backlash.

[Mr. Smiles]

What the actual ♥♥♥♥ is this thread?

I can't even anymore...

[Tito Shivan]

hazydistance lähetti viestin:

Who exactly is bringing "certain skin colors" or minority statuses into consideration as hiring criteria?

People trying to bring up a fallacy.

[sfnhltb]

Tito Shivan lähetti viestin:

hazydistance lähetti viestin:

"Both sides" of which issue now?

The part where people think hiring people of a certain skin color brings a higher chance of not hiring 'qualified' people over doing the same with a different skin color.

You're bound to an equal outcome both sides. It's just a bigot argument against the minority of your choice.

(skin color is perfectly exchangeable for gender, sexuality, )

Of course in a country where racial (or other) prejudice exists and affects hiring of candidates, a rational actor should deliberately hire the oppressed minority, as on average they will be better at the job than the remaining candidates of the non-oppressed group. Assuming the proportion of rational employers is lower than those that are irrational, which is a fairly safe bet according to pretty much all sociological research into such issues.

[Cuna]

if only the Jester award reduced a persons points when awarded so someone...
What a wonderful non-troll world this would be.

[Crashed]

Cuna lähetti viestin:

if only the Jester award reduced a persons points when awarded so someone...
What a wonderful non-troll world this would be.

Racist trolls would take advantage of that ASAP if that were the case.

[⭐Rodent⭐]

Tito Shivan lähetti viestin:

Crashed lähetti viestin:

It's pretty much a racist dogwhistle.

I've heard the same argument used in regard skin color, gender, sexual orientation... Every single thing people have been bigots about.

The only diversity that you dont care about is the thought diversity, if they don't think like you then they are bigots, right? See how you insult and discriminate freely while you are sufficiently hypocritical to raise the flags of the brotherhood.

No one cares about any of the traits you mentioned above, as long as the person is efficient and honest in their job.

[Crashed]

⭐Rodent⭐ lähetti viestin:

Tito Shivan lähetti viestin:

I've heard the same argument used in regard skin color, gender, sexual orientation... Every single thing people have been bigots about.

The only diversity that you dont care about is the thought diversity, if they don't think like you then they are bigots, right? See how you insult and discriminate freely while you are sufficiently hypocritical to raise the flags of the brotherhood.

No one cares about any of the traits you mentioned above, as long as the person is efficient and honest in their job.

You mean like thoughts that minorities should be discriminated against or worse?

[Thermal Lance]

⭐Rodent⭐ lähetti viestin:

Tito Shivan lähetti viestin:

I've heard the same argument used in regard skin color, gender, sexual orientation... Every single thing people have been bigots about.

The only diversity that you dont care about is the thought diversity, if they don't think like you then they are bigots, right? See how you insult and discriminate freely while you are sufficiently hypocritical to raise the flags of the brotherhood.

No one cares about any of the traits you mentioned above, as long as the person is efficient and honest in their job.

Oh boy.

[Tito Shivan]

⭐Rodent⭐ lähetti viestin:

The only diversity that you dont care about is the thought diversity, if they don't think like you then they are bigots, right?

Only when they are prejudiced,toxic or antagonistic towards minorities.

I don't tolerate intolerants.

⭐Rodent⭐ lähetti viestin:

No one cares about any of the traits you mentioned above, as long as the person is efficient and honest in their job.

You should read carefully because people here are saying otherwise.

[hazydistance]

Crashed lähetti viestin:

You mean like thoughts that minorities should be discriminated against or worse?

A question for you in turn: Do you believe people in general are preoccupied with compulsive fantasies of persecution, and the only decent way to deal with them is to redirect them towards approved targets?

Tito Shivan lähetti viestin:

You should read carefully because people here are saying otherwise.

Care to assist in locating these comments? Or does it involve too much reading into things that are opaque to the lay person?