Windows 7 Refunds <Not sure if this has been asked<

[Supreme Emperor Lord As Asriel]

Just saying if people have more than 1000+ games that only use windows 7 will they be eligible for refunds? Otherwise maybe they should get a 1000+ wins 7 game award even if they can't get a refund for those games they will not be able to play again. A lot of cases might not be like this.

[Chika Ogiue]

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Just saying if people have more than 1000+ games that only use windows 7 will they be eligible for refunds?

Why would people be eligible for refunds because they, themselves, have decided not to move to a supported OS? It's not Valve's problem that those people are unwilling to do so.

[Haruspex]

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Just saying if people have more than 1000+ games that only use windows 7 will they be eligible for refunds?

Regardless of how many games you own, there are no games that only run on Windows 7. My account is 19 years old, and every single game I own runs fine on Windows 10. Sometimes I need to apply the occasional tweak or install a patch to get things working, but that's just PC gaming, and has been the reality of things since PC gaming was born over 40 years ago.

In fact, there are more PC games you can't play while running Windows 7 than Windows 10/11.

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yet it has to run on Win 7. Otherwise it would be fraudulent. Can we agree?

No we do not agree. Scroll up a few posts and read what you said. You said it may run on Windows 11. Games do run on Windows 11, even games that say that they only have support for 7 and 8.

It may run on Win 11, good for MS! But it is/was sold as running under Win 7.

[rawWwRrr]

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No we do not agree. Scroll up a few posts and read what you said. You said it may run on Windows 11. Games do run on Windows 11, even games that say that they only have support for 7 and 8.

It may run on Win 11, good for MS! But it is/was sold as running under Win 7.

And there's some that still say Win XP. What's your point?

[Start_Running]

Thaere are no games that will not run on Windows 10. If you know of any please do list them OP>. There was more of a case to be made for that with XP vs 7,

OP.. PC Oses aren't like COnsoles. Each new OS more or less encapsulates all the features and functionality of the previous. It's like adding a room or a floor to a house.. DOes that mean the old house no longer exoists. Fek no.

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It may run on Win 11, good for MS! But it is/was sold as running under Win 7.

And there's some that still say Win XP. What's your point?

If I buy a car running with oil, I don't need to charge it as if it was a Tesla...

[C²C^Guyver |NZB|]

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No we do not agree. Scroll up a few posts and read what you said. You said it may run on Windows 11. Games do run on Windows 11, even games that say that they only have support for 7 and 8.

It may run on Win 11, good for MS! But it is/was sold as running under Win 7.

And? Operating systems get discontinued all the time.

I bought Half-Life in 2001 and I was using Windows Me. Does that mean that Valve should continue to support Windows ME?

No.

You have no idea how PC gaming really works.

People being lazy and not wanting to upgrade their OS, even though they agreed to, does not mean that Valve should support every OS under the sun and they aren't going to either.

[C²C^Guyver |NZB|]

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And there's some that still say Win XP. What's your point?

If I buy a car running with oil, I don't need to charge it as if it was a Tesla...

No one is asking you to either.. that analogy is also completely flawed.

[Spawn of Totoro]

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I can't remember some games i brought but when i checked them it was an older account it actually just said Windows 7 it didn't say windows 10 or 11, even if it was before wins 10-11 release they didn't add the other OS on the game store page.

A game stating "Windows 7" for the system requirements only mean it need at least Windows 7 or higher, not that it only requires Windows 7.

While some game may require some tweaking or modifications to run correctly, depending on the game's programming, most should still work just fine.

Otherwise a game requiring a Geforce 960 wouldn't be run on a Geforce 4080 GPU if they were that specific.


Keep in mind that support is being dropped for Windows 7.8.8.1, but the client will still run on Windows 7, it just isn't guaranteed to do so and will not be fixed if an eventual update breaks it.

https://help.steampowered.com/en/faqs/view/4784-4F2B-1321-800A

Windows 7 and Windows 8 Support

As of January 1 2024, Steam will officially stop supporting the Windows 7, Windows 8 and Windows 8.1 operating systems. After that date, existing Steam Client installations on these operating systems will no longer receive updates of any kind including security updates. Steam Support will be unable to offer users technical support for issues related to the old operating systems, and Steam will be unable to guarantee continued functionality of Steam on the unsupported operating system versions.

In order to ensure continued operation of Steam and any games or other products purchased through Steam, users should update to a more recent version of Windows. We expect the Steam client and games on these older operating systems to continue running for some time without updates after January 1st, 2024, but we are unable to guarantee continued functionality after that date.

This change is required as core features in Steam rely on an embedded version of Google Chrome, which no longer functions on older versions of Windows. In addition, future versions of Steam will require Windows feature and security updates only present in Windows 10 and above.

We strongly encourage all Windows 7/8/8.1 users to update sooner rather than later. Microsoft ended security updates and technical support for Windows 7 in January 2020 and for Windows 8.1 in January 2023. Computers running these operating systems, when connected to the internet, are susceptible to new malware and other exploits which will not be patched. That malware can cause your PC, Steam and games to perform poorly or crash. That malware can also be used to steal the credentials for your Steam account or other services.

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It may run on Win 11, good for MS! But it is/was sold as running under Win 7.

And the game does still require that OS or higher to run.

Steam's system requirements are what is being changed and Steam may be required to run a game, unless the developer released it as DRM free on Steam.

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It may run on Win 11, good for MS! But it is/was sold as running under Win 7.

And? Operating systems get discontinued all the time.

I bought Half-Life in 2001 and I was using Windows Me. Does that mean that Valve should continue to support Windows ME?

No.

You have no idea how PC gaming really works.

People being lazy and not wanting to upgrade their OS, even though they agreed to, does not mean that Valve should support every OS under the sun and they aren't going to either.

Baldur's gate 2, GTA III, Commandos, Dragon Age, Fallout III, Empire earth, etc. etc. etc. all are still in my Ludothèque and all are still running on Win XP/7 as they were sold.

Being lazy with old hardware? I have 1 Win 10/Ubuntu PC, 1 Win 7 Pc, 1 Win XP PC, you ask me to make them all go for your Win 11? Why? Those games are RUNNING JUST FINE on old hardware. Why would you make me do stupid things?

[C²C^Guyver |NZB|]

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And? Operating systems get discontinued all the time.

I bought Half-Life in 2001 and I was using Windows Me. Does that mean that Valve should continue to support Windows ME?

No.

You have no idea how PC gaming really works.

People being lazy and not wanting to upgrade their OS, even though they agreed to, does not mean that Valve should support every OS under the sun and they aren't going to either.

Baldur's gate 2, GTA III, Commandos, Dragon Age, Fallout III, Empire earth, etc. etc. etc. all are still in my Ludothèque and all are still running on Win XP/7 as they were sold.

Being lazy with old hardware? I have 1 Win 10/Ubuntu PC, 1 Win 7 Pc, 1 Win XP PC, you ask me to make them all go for your Win 11? Why? Those games are RUNNING JUST FINE on old hardware. Why would you make me do stupid things?

Just because you think they are running fine is irrelevant, what matters is what Valve thinks and if you want to continue to use your Steam library, you will need to upgrade as per the agreement that you agreed to, which you apparently forgot that you actually agreed to it when you created the account.

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Baldur's gate 2, GTA III, Commandos, Dragon Age, Fallout III, Empire earth, etc. etc. etc. all are still in my Ludothèque and all are still running on Win XP/7 as they were sold.

Being lazy with old hardware? I have 1 Win 10/Ubuntu PC, 1 Win 7 Pc, 1 Win XP PC, you ask me to make them all go for your Win 11? Why? Those games are RUNNING JUST FINE on old hardware. Why would you make me do stupid things?

Just because you think they are running fine is irrelevant, what matters is what Valve thinks and if you want to continue to use your Steam library, you will need to upgrade as per the agreement that you agreed to, which you apparently forgot that you actually agreed to it when you created the account.

Irrelevant for whom? Irrelevant for sellers who want to sell me twice what I already bought? Yeah. I am not that kind of guy lul. Are you?

[C²C^Guyver |NZB|]

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Just because you think they are running fine is irrelevant, what matters is what Valve thinks and if you want to continue to use your Steam library, you will need to upgrade as per the agreement that you agreed to, which you apparently forgot that you actually agreed to it when you created the account.

Irrelevant for whom? Irrelevant for sellers who want to sell me twice what I already bought? Yeah. I am not that kind of guy lul. Are you?

Where are you having to purchase twice?

Please read, no one said that.

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Irrelevant for whom? Irrelevant for sellers who want to sell me twice what I already bought? Yeah. I am not that kind of guy lul. Are you?

Where are you having to purchase twice?

Please read, no one said that.

If I buy a game for, let's say, min req Win 10, and tomorow, Valve decides not to allow Win 10 games "cause Win 11 is better", I have to buy it again on GoG or whatever for my Win 10 device because I've been denied to play it.

Steam is unsafe for me.

[ReBoot]

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Where are you having to purchase twice?

Please read, no one said that.

If I buy a game for, let's say, min req Win 10, and tomorow, Valve decides not to allow Win 10 games "cause Win 11 is better", I have to buy it again on GoG or whatever for my Win 10 device because I've been denied to play it.

Steam is unsafe for me.

Yeah, because a game with "min req Win 10" totes won't run on Win11 because that's how "min" works...

Are you serious? You're contradicting yourself in the same sentence!