7 and 8.1 steam

[Skye Ashford]

I know steam is dying for the older windows editions, but I hate 10 and refuse to use 11. Can I still play my games, that I f*cking paid for, in 2024? And if something was to happen to my laptop, could I still use steam and download my games? I understand that I won't be able to buy new games, I'm content with Beam and Automation anyhow

[crunchyfrog]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Xautos:

"Scaremongering" and "Hate", i'm sure there are more buzzwords out there, but that hardly describes the OS as it truly is. of course, they know that but don't care to acknowledge the real issues. that's fine, it's not my problem.

Anyway. your choices are to upgrade to a newer windows, or check into a new OS like Linux or MACos. Keep in mind that Proton on Steam in Linux can only play so many games, it will not play everything but you can always install Glorious Eggroll on to Steam and use that, but even that can't run everything and there are things GE is better at than Proton and vice versa.

At least i'm willing to acknowledge the limitations on Linux than denying Windows doesn't have issues.

Except I never said that did I?

I know it has issues. The point I clearly made is that I asked every single one of these people on here what actual problems there are and all I get is radio silence and zero evidence.

That's the point 0- it is DEMONSTRABLE scaremongering.

Please don't strawman.

[Seva Adom]

I mean I want to upgrade win 7 but Microsoft no longer allows, oh well here I go using win 7 till they give me the upgrade. I mean it'll get to the point where it'll cost them more to keep upgrading my WIn 7 security rather than just give me a free copy of Win 10. Hey up throw a new machine in for me too.

Either that or stop servicing Win 7 & watch my P.C transform into a Russian bot net.

[Kage Goomba]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Seva Adom:

I mean I want to upgrade win 7 but Microsoft no longer allows, oh well here I go using win 7 till they give me the upgrade. I mean it'll get to the point where it'll cost them more to keep upgrading my WIn 7 security rather than just give me a free copy of Win 10. Hey up throw a new machine in for me too.

Either that or stop servicing Win 7 & watch my P.C transform into a Russian bot net.

Where did you get the idea that Microsoft won't allow you to upgrade to Win 10?
Or Win 11 for that matter.

No one's ever said that.

[Haruspex]

If you're playing Beam.NG and Automation, you can easily run Windows 10. Just install it.

[crunchyfrog]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Seva Adom:

I mean I want to upgrade win 7 but Microsoft no longer allows, oh well here I go using win 7 till they give me the upgrade. I mean it'll get to the point where it'll cost them more to keep upgrading my WIn 7 security rather than just give me a free copy of Win 10. Hey up throw a new machine in for me too.

Either that or stop servicing Win 7 & watch my P.C transform into a Russian bot net.

This is classic case of the silly misinformation and scaremongering I spoke of earlier.

THere is NO case of MS stopping you upgrading. Windows 10 remains free as does 11.

[Kage Goomba]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από crunchyfrog:

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Seva Adom:

I mean I want to upgrade win 7 but Microsoft no longer allows, oh well here I go using win 7 till they give me the upgrade. I mean it'll get to the point where it'll cost them more to keep upgrading my WIn 7 security rather than just give me a free copy of Win 10. Hey up throw a new machine in for me too.

Either that or stop servicing Win 7 & watch my P.C transform into a Russian bot net.

This is classic case of the silly misinformation and scaremongering I spoke of earlier.

THere is NO case of MS stopping you upgrading. Windows 10 remains free as does 11.

Don't think you can get Win 10 anymore - that ship sailed some time back - may be able to jury rig something but I'd not hold my breath.

[crunchyfrog]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Kage Goomba:

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από crunchyfrog:

This is classic case of the silly misinformation and scaremongering I spoke of earlier.

THere is NO case of MS stopping you upgrading. Windows 10 remains free as does 11.

Don't think you can get Win 10 anymore - that ship sailed some time back - may be able to jury rig something but I'd not hold my breath.

A fair point as I'm not sure.

But it doesn't exactly matter as you can still update to 11, which is equally fine. Fair point for pointing that out though.

[Kage Goomba]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από crunchyfrog:

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Kage Goomba:

Don't think you can get Win 10 anymore - that ship sailed some time back - may be able to jury rig something but I'd not hold my breath.

A fair point as I'm not sure.

But it doesn't exactly matter as you can still update to 11, which is equally fine. Fair point for pointing that out though.

There was a loophole at some point that allowed people to game it into giving you a key.

But Microsoft stopped issuing keys last year.

So I'd not bet on it being there.

Win 11 however - they still force feed that to us on Win 10 today.
Not sure how that would look on Win 7 however.

[crunchyfrog]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Kage Goomba:

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από crunchyfrog:

A fair point as I'm not sure.

But it doesn't exactly matter as you can still update to 11, which is equally fine. Fair point for pointing that out though.

There was a loophole at some point that allowed people to game it into giving you a key.

But Microsoft stopped issuing keys last year.

So I'd not bet on it being there.

Win 11 however - they still force feed that to us on Win 10 today.
Not sure how that would look on Win 7 however.

Fair point. I'm not sure how it looks, but the thing is though regardless if they're wanting to upgrade then they can do it no matter how.

Frankly I'd go for the full and clean install, backing up stuff I want to keep beforehand as I don't trust MS to get their automation correct. They are absolutely dreadful at that,

[Kage Goomba]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από crunchyfrog:

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Kage Goomba:

There was a loophole at some point that allowed people to game it into giving you a key.

But Microsoft stopped issuing keys last year.

So I'd not bet on it being there.

Win 11 however - they still force feed that to us on Win 10 today.
Not sure how that would look on Win 7 however.

Fair point. I'm not sure how it looks, but the thing is though regardless if they're wanting to upgrade then they can do it no matter how.

Frankly I'd go for the full and clean install, backing up stuff I want to keep beforehand as I don't trust MS to get their automation correct. They are absolutely dreadful at that,

Agreed - trick is getting a legitimate key that won't get flagged on activation.

[crunchyfrog]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Kage Goomba:

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από crunchyfrog:

Fair point. I'm not sure how it looks, but the thing is though regardless if they're wanting to upgrade then they can do it no matter how.

Frankly I'd go for the full and clean install, backing up stuff I want to keep beforehand as I don't trust MS to get their automation correct. They are absolutely dreadful at that,

Agreed - trick is getting a legitimate key that won't get flagged on activation.

Yup alarm bells are rining about this key they spoke of.

I seriosuly hope they got it from somewhere repuitable or they're likely to blame MS for their own poor decisios?

[NuLife]

you can literally buy windows 10 or 11 for a couple bucks of key selling sites, so don't get why all worry so much..

[Satoru]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Kage Goomba:

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από crunchyfrog:

Fair point. I'm not sure how it looks, but the thing is though regardless if they're wanting to upgrade then they can do it no matter how.

Frankly I'd go for the full and clean install, backing up stuff I want to keep beforehand as I don't trust MS to get their automation correct. They are absolutely dreadful at that,

Agreed - trick is getting a legitimate key that won't get flagged on activation.

You could get a windows 10/11 activation up until basically October of this year. That’s when MS stopped their “1 year free upgrade” program that ran for 7 years. I’m not really feeling sorry for anyone who uses the excuse now of “it costs too much” because it only costs money now because they were too caught up in their own behind to upgrade

[Ogami]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από M3GAHURTZ:

When Jan 1 2024 arrives you will no longer be able to login to steam on Windows 7. Even if you are already logged in, it will force an update on you then once updated it won't let you open Steam on Windows 7 ever again.

Thats actually not true. Valve clarified it just a few days ago.
They wrote that from that point onward Windows 7/8 will no longer be supported but that the client will still work for a while.
But each future update risks of breaking it further till someday it wont work anymore for Windows 7/8 users.
Was the same when the stopped supporting Windows XP.
The client still worked on XP after the cutoff date for a few months but did gradually lose functionality with each new update till it ceased working.

But there is no January 1st 2024 update that will lock out Windows 7/8 users right away.

[Kage Goomba]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Satoru:

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Kage Goomba:

Agreed - trick is getting a legitimate key that won't get flagged on activation.

You could get a windows 10/11 activation up until basically October of this year. That’s when MS stopped their “1 year free upgrade” program that ran for 7 years. I’m not really feeling sorry for anyone who uses the excuse now of “it costs too much” because it only costs money now because they were too caught up in their own behind to upgrade

Pretty sure it was last year and not this year. Unless your referring to some program that I missed fine print wise.

But in any case - times up to be sure.

Any keys out there that people are selling are suspect.
The keys Microsoft sold are backed with licenses - those who don't have them run the risk of any number of nasty things.

Not that I can stop people from doing that... just that its not a good idea.