Mason LLP v. Steam Yes/No?

[Rabblevox]

I had to do some digging into actual facts. I've been happy with Steam for years. Their Customer Service is 2nd to none, and I love my Steam Deck beyond any reasonableness. I had no reason to go suing Steam/Valve, and had never heard of Mason LLC (fortunately, I've not had to deal with many lawyers).

When they invited me to be part of a class action, I tossed it. Then they invited me again when I was broke. Here's what I found out:

#1: Mason LLP is 100% legit. They've been around a long time, specialize in class action suits, and usually get at least partial wins.
#2: The suit might or not be legit. They are using a shotgun approach, alleging everything from price-gouging, to illegal partnership deals. Some of those claims might be legit. I'm not a lawyer, though I did play Atticus Finch in a HS play.
#3: It's based on your game purchases since 2017 only, no Deck or Dock or other hardware eligible..
#4: You might be eligible for 15-25% refund on your total game purchases. For me, that could be up to $300 bucks someday. I buy a lot of games) I And if you start the sign up, they will total their goal for you instantly.
#5: Why not?

I'll re-iterate I've got no axe with Steam. But lots of good corporations (not an oxymoron) over-charge and need a bit of a public tuning, yeah? And in an era of tightening budgets, it's a chance at some money that has way better odds than a lottery ticket. And Mason LLP is a safe legal firm, they use a legit front-end, beyond identifying your account history, they don't ask for squidgy data.

So why not? Does anyone have a good reason not to join the suit?

[❤ Sly Succubus ❤]

引用自 potato：

so not only are they ambulance chasers, they're also colossal failures at it

Ohhh ya.
https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/0/3811782223879456567/?ctp=6#c3811782656725054904

I had fun cracking their site open earlier this year...so this is not even their first attempt to get their name around the Steam Forums at that, its like some merit of pride or honor I guess when your LLC scam gets plastered on your enemies website? Idk, their nonsense is nothing new.....literally because in the prior topic you can see that even people before myself have experienced these "LLC Lawyers winning against Steam"

Someone also on the final page used the EXACT SAME VERIFYIT WEBSITE TO SAY THEIR SCAM WAS LEGIT AS THE MAN WHO BUMPED THIS DID, which implies the guy just copypasted it from the old link, to here.

[Zarrotox]

引用自 Kage Goomba：

Bear in mind that if you participate in a class action lawsuit - there are consequences to those actions.

READ THE FINE PRINT.

Scam or not - you don't want to find yourself out a steam account (just an example :P don't take my word for it - check the facts on your own)

If you don't know - consult an lawyer.
No seriously - don't guess at this.

Frankly I'm with Potato - scam - that or its not worth the effort.

Its illegal in the FSA for Valve/Steam to retaliate agaisnt you if they lose

and if they win, nothing happens, if they lose, nothing they can do to you.

BESIDES, lets be honest A LOT of this money is just going to funnel back into them.

My steam account is valued at around 11,500
Its based off of purchases since 2017.

I've spent 6000 since then

Im looking at getting back 1500,

Most of that is going to go back into steam lol

[Komarimaru]

引用自 Zarrotox：

引用自 Kage Goomba：

Bear in mind that if you participate in a class action lawsuit - there are consequences to those actions.

READ THE FINE PRINT.

Scam or not - you don't want to find yourself out a steam account (just an example :P don't take my word for it - check the facts on your own)

If you don't know - consult an lawyer.
No seriously - don't guess at this.

Frankly I'm with Potato - scam - that or its not worth the effort.

Its illegal in the FSA for Valve/Steam to retaliate agaisnt you if they lose

and if they win, nothing happens, if they lose, nothing they can do to you.

BESIDES, lets be honest A LOT of this money is just going to funnel back into them.

My steam account is valued at around 11,500
Its based off of purchases since 2017.

I've spent 6000 since then

Im looking at getting back 1500,

Most of that is going to go back into steam lol

You do realize, it was exposed as a scam right?

https://fingfx.thomsonreuters.com/gfx/legaldocs/myvmgzrjavr/frankel-valvevzaiger--valvecomplaint.pdf

You're getting nothing back. It was a scam to trick the ignorant into mass arbitration to try and force Valve into a settlement over lies.

So again, you're getting nothing back... LOL If anything, if you truly signed the contract, you'll be one of the suckers paying their fees from the counter suite.

[xBCxRangers]

引用自 Komarimaru：

引用自 Zarrotox：

Its illegal in the FSA for Valve/Steam to retaliate agaisnt you if they lose

and if they win, nothing happens, if they lose, nothing they can do to you.

BESIDES, lets be honest A LOT of this money is just going to funnel back into them.

My steam account is valued at around 11,500
Its based off of purchases since 2017.

I've spent 6000 since then

Im looking at getting back 1500,

Most of that is going to go back into steam lol

You do realize, it was exposed as a scam right?

https://fingfx.thomsonreuters.com/gfx/legaldocs/myvmgzrjavr/frankel-valvevzaiger--valvecomplaint.pdf

You're getting nothing back. It was a scam to trick the ignorant into mass arbitration to try and force Valve into a settlement over lies.

So, you're getting nothing back... LOL

And so where's the scam? It's a counter suit by Valve, after they find themselves being sued. In fact, Mr Newell himself is being deposed in the suit.

I don't know the pricing issues, and the in's and out's, but do know, this suit has been thru many variables, and found Wolfire has a case.

And thus far, their case not only not thrown out, but the owner of the company they're suing, forced to testify in person at such a trial.

And so, what are the lessons, whether the suit is successful, or not?

Nobody is above the law.

Anybody has a right to sue, if they feel wronged.

Yes, you can file a Class Action, no matter the TOS may or may not say.

Yes, talk to your own attorney, about any questions or matters, and never, i mean never, listen to those, about legal matters, on a gaming forum.

[Komarimaru]

引用自 xBCxRangers：

引用自 Komarimaru：

You do realize, it was exposed as a scam right?

https://fingfx.thomsonreuters.com/gfx/legaldocs/myvmgzrjavr/frankel-valvevzaiger--valvecomplaint.pdf

You're getting nothing back. It was a scam to trick the ignorant into mass arbitration to try and force Valve into a settlement over lies.

So, you're getting nothing back... LOL

And so where's the scam? It's a counter suit by Valve, after they find themselves being sued. In fact, Mr Newell himself is being deposed in the suit.

I don't know the pricing issues, and the in's and out's, but do know, this suit has been thru many variables, and found Wolfire has a case.

And thus far, their case not only not thrown out, but the owner of the company they're suing, forced to testify in person at such a trial.

And so, what are the lessons, whether the suit is successful, or not?

Nobody is above the law.

Anybody has a right to sue, if they feel wronged.

Yes, you can file a Class Action, no matter the TOS may or may not say.

Yes, talk to your own attorney, about any questions or matters, and never, i mean never, listen to those, about legal matters, on a gaming forum.

For someone who claims to understand the Law, you seem to lack the understanding of it.

This is not the Wolfire suite. This was the mass arbitration scams done by Mason and Zieger. Leaked Internal documents exposed it as a scam as well. Said documents shown in the counter claim, which will kill Mason and Zieger's fake arbitration.

This is why no one takes your comments seriously, you don't even know what you're posting about.

[rawWwRrr]

引用自 xBCxRangers：

never, i mean never, listen to those, about legal matters, on a gaming forum.

Ironic

[xBCxRangers]

引用自 Komarimaru：

引用自 xBCxRangers：

And so where's the scam? It's a counter suit by Valve, after they find themselves being sued. In fact, Mr Newell himself is being deposed in the suit.

I don't know the pricing issues, and the in's and out's, but do know, this suit has been thru many variables, and found Wolfire has a case.

And thus far, their case not only not thrown out, but the owner of the company they're suing, forced to testify in person at such a trial.

And so, what are the lessons, whether the suit is successful, or not?

Nobody is above the law.

Anybody has a right to sue, if they feel wronged.

Yes, you can file a Class Action, no matter the TOS may or may not say.

Yes, talk to your own attorney, about any questions or matters, and never, i mean never, listen to those, about legal matters, on a gaming forum.

For someone who claims to understand the Law, you seem to lack the understanding of it.

This is not the Wolfire suite. This was the mass arbitration scams done by Mason and Zieger. Leaked Internal documents exposed it as a scam as well.

This is why no one takes your comments seriously, you don't even know what you're posting about.

It has nothing to do the validity of the lawsuit against Valve. One could say, a billion dollar company, is gonna try and do their best, to bleed the firm suing them, dry. It's a common tactic It doesn't mean it's valid.

As far as not taking my comments seriously, you and others take them as a serious as a heart attack evidently, or you wouldn't spend hours trying countering the points.

Given your background, do you think fielding questions abut computers, rather than legal matters may be a better tact?

Good grief.

[Komarimaru]

引用自 xBCxRangers：

引用自 Komarimaru：

For someone who claims to understand the Law, you seem to lack the understanding of it.

This is not the Wolfire suite. This was the mass arbitration scams done by Mason and Zieger. Leaked Internal documents exposed it as a scam as well.

This is why no one takes your comments seriously, you don't even know what you're posting about.

It has nothing to do the validity of the lawsuit against Valve. One could say, a billion dollar company, is gonna try and do their best, to bleed the firm suing them, dry. It's a common tactic It doesn't mean it's valid.

As far as not taking my comments seriously, you and others take them as a serious as a heart attack evidently, or you wouldn't spend hours trying countering the points.

Given your background, do you think fielding questions abut computers, rather than legal matters may be a better tact?

Good grief.

This thread, is ABOUT the Mass Arbitration. See it at the top? You had to click it to enter the thread. "Mason LLP v. Steam Yes/No?"

The documents I posted, showed it was exposed as a Scam.

You're the one who thinks it involved the Wolfire case that has entered Disposition Stage.

Like, seriously... You complain at someone for posting a thread in English with Italian dates and time, yet seem to have comprehension issues over simple plain English.

[Spawn of Totoro]

引用自 Komarimaru：

You're the one who thinks it involved the Wolfire case that has entered Disposition Stage.

I think the only relation is that the arbitration is dependent on the results of the Wolfire case. If the Wolfire case doesn't succeed, then the arbitration cases have no grounds.

Though I may have misread something as well.

But, ya, either way, it isn't really directly tied to this thread.

[davidb11]

What the heck is the FSA?
All I know is no law states in the United States that filing a lawsuit against a company makes it illegal for them to retaliate against you.
LOL wut.

[❤ Sly Succubus ❤]

引用自 davidb11：

What the heck is the FSA?
All I know is no law states in the United States that filing a lawsuit against a company makes it illegal for them to retaliate against you.
LOL wut.

I agree with this because the FSA in the United States stands for the United States Federal Service of Farms, like I think someone got stuff mixed up or they think FSA stands for something else....it does not, its the shortened way for the USDA Farm Service....I would know, I live on a farm...

[Spawn of Totoro]

引用自 Mischievous Sly Succubus：

引用自 davidb11：

What the heck is the FSA?
All I know is no law states in the United States that filing a lawsuit against a company makes it illegal for them to retaliate against you.
LOL wut.

I agree with this because the FSA in the United States stands for the United States Federal Service of Farms, like I think someone got stuff mixed up or they think FSA stands for something else....it does not, its the shortened way for the USDA Farm Service....I would know, I live on a farm...

Governments have too many acronyms, tbh... more so then chat clients and discussion boards. :D

[❤ Sly Succubus ❤]

引用自 Spawn of Totoro：

引用自 Mischievous Sly Succubus：

I agree with this because the FSA in the United States stands for the United States Federal Service of Farms, like I think someone got stuff mixed up or they think FSA stands for something else....it does not, its the shortened way for the USDA Farm Service....I would know, I live on a farm...

Governments have too many acronyms, tbh... more so then chat clients and discussion boards. :D

That is fair!

[Boblin the Goblin]

引用自 xBCxRangers：

引用自 Komarimaru：

For someone who claims to understand the Law, you seem to lack the understanding of it.

This is not the Wolfire suite. This was the mass arbitration scams done by Mason and Zieger. Leaked Internal documents exposed it as a scam as well.

This is why no one takes your comments seriously, you don't even know what you're posting about.

It has nothing to do the validity of the lawsuit against Valve. One could say, a billion dollar company, is gonna try and do their best, to bleed the firm suing them, dry. It's a common tactic It doesn't mean it's valid.

As far as not taking my comments seriously, you and others take them as a serious as a heart attack evidently, or you wouldn't spend hours trying countering the points.

Given your background, do you think fielding questions abut computers, rather than legal matters may be a better tact?

Good grief.

I'm kinda glad you never took my sincere advice about not discussing legal matters.

[Brian9824]

引用自 xBCxRangers：

I don't know the pricing issues, and the in's and out's, but do know, this suit has been thru many variables, and found Wolfire has a case.

Well for one it helps if you bother reading the thread before posting as this has absolutely nothing to do with Wolfire.....

引用自 xBCxRangers：

And thus far, their case not only not thrown out, but the owner of the company they're suing, forced to testify in person at such a trial.

You act like the owner of a private company testifying is remotely unusual... Its incredibly common for the CEO to testify in these type of cases.

In this case Mason is screwed, their own employees turned on them and released a trove of internal information. They have the freaking sales pitch they used to lure in investors claiming it was an investment opportunity naming steam as a target stating they could threaten lots of lawsuits to get a quick payday from Valve promising a big return on the investment.