Why tf are a lot of people saying that steam sales suck??

[Bizarre Lad]

Like are we on the same platform or what? Some people say that epic games is better cause of the free daily games and that steam needs a "gamepass". Steam sales are good as hell! Is it cause of the currency stuff and regional pricing? Cause in Latvia the sales are good ngl (metro saga bundle for 9,99 euros, witcher 3 complete edition 12,49 euros)

[vizthex]

seems like all (or most of) the games they wanted to get didn't go on sale and they're salty about it.

i personally bought a few, but have been trying to avoid doing so simply because my backlog is already high enough lmao - but steam sales are still great so idk what these folks are on about.

[Watermelon {JESUS IS LORD}]

FoundCrab (I'm Ryan Gosling) の投稿を引用：

Like are we on the same platform or what? Some people say that epic games is better cause of the free daily games and that steam needs a "gamepass". Steam sales are good as hell! Is it cause of the currency stuff and regional pricing? Cause in Latvia the sales are good ngl (metro saga bundle for 9,99 euros, witcher 3 complete edition 12,49 euros)

the sales were better in the early years of steam 2005 - 2011
they actually had fun minigames and treasure hunts after 2011 the sales are trash cuz its just money grubbing now and no more fun events

[Sigma957]

Because they do compared to Fanatical and GreenManGaming. Oh and GamersGate. And when Humble participates it's quad damage.

[Sigma957]

xHans の投稿を引用：

It's a capitalist fad like black friday. How many games of the 20 that you buy do you actually play in a year? 2?

I finished 25 in 2023.

[Kiwi]

If I don't see games at their lowest price, (bonus points for new lowest) or not on sale at all and especially when there's nothing engaging about it then the sale sucks for me. Even if I'm not interested in those games. The sales also used to be interactive. Summer 2015 to this day is still my favorite.

Last winter sale wasn't that bad in discounts but overall the event wasn't good (getting stickers instead of trading cards from voting) and I wish we had the option to skip a vote, like we did with the nominations.

A lot of the sales made outside those seasons are often better (publisher, genre themed/fests etc).

[Sifer2]

Mountain Months の投稿を引用：

some of us are old enough to remember when steam sales were actually good and had fun interesting events and there were even flash sales that were amazing deals. now it seems valve has chosen the road of stingy soulless corporatism. gabe needs another yacht to add to his fleet I guess.

Pretty much this. Valve has a market lead, and doesn't really try with their sales anymore. Sure if your new to PC gaming the Steam sales might be exciting as some games are heavily discounted. However you will find it's always those same one's, and others you might want never break 40-50% off anymore. Truth is other key seller sites actually track what Steam discounts a game for then actively undercut the price every Steam sale. It's rare that Steam will have a deal that's better than anywhere else now. Meanwhile us old timers remember flash deals where a fairly new game was like 85% off.

[Sigma957]

I did actually buy some games through STEAM this year though which I haven't done in awhile because some of them cannot be bought any other way.

Ultimate Epic Battle Simulator
Void Destroyer 2

[D. Flame]

You're new, so you don't know what STEAM Sales used to be like. Nearly everything was 75% to 90% off. People's backlogs were infinitely expanding because we would buy everything by the boatloads, even things we have never played, on the off chance that we might want to play it one day. Since the game was like $1, it didn't even matter.

This time around, I saw games on sale for like 10% off of a multi year old $70, which is still more expensive than $60. If a sale is less than 20% off, then it is not a sale; it is an insult. Plus, there is no hype for big sales when the sale price during the "BIG"" sale has the same discount as every other sale during the year.

Meanwhile, MHW had its lowest price ever, and it is pulling in over 120,000 concurrent users, despite being over half a decade old. That is a small taste of the hype that the big STEAM Sales used to generate.

[Tito Shivan]

D. Flame の投稿を引用：

You're new, so you don't know what STEAM Sales used to be like. Nearly everything was 75% to 90% off. People's backlogs were infinitely expanding because we would buy everything by the boatloads, even things we have never played, on the off chance that we might want to play it one day. Since the game was like $1, it didn't even matter.

Mind back then there was not a dozen of key sites reselling Steam Keys, PWYW game bundles weren't a thing yet and there was little visibility for devs outside of featuring on the storefront.
Also most deals were timed, which meant you could miss sales because of being at work, sleeping or away from the computer.

Times have changed since then.

[D. Flame]

Tito Shivan の投稿を引用：

D. Flame の投稿を引用：

You're new, so you don't know what STEAM Sales used to be like. Nearly everything was 75% to 90% off. People's backlogs were infinitely expanding because we would buy everything by the boatloads, even things we have never played, on the off chance that we might want to play it one day. Since the game was like $1, it didn't even matter.

Also most deals were timed, which meant you could miss sales because of being at work, sleeping or away from the computer.

Times have changed since then.

Doesn't matter. That was part of the hype and the fun.

Times have changed for the worse, and companies have gotten greedy.

[Tito Shivan]

D. Flame の投稿を引用：

Doesn't matter. That was part of the hype and the fun.

It wasn't 'fun' but an issue for lots of users.
It was such a widespread issue that Steam had to lengthen the duration of timed deals until they basically lasted for almost a full day.
Flash deals originally lasted only 4 hours. Eventually they were lengthened to full 8 hours plus another 8 (as 'last' flash deals) lasting a whole 16 hours.

D. Flame の投稿を引用：

Times have changed for the worse, and companies have gotten greedy.

Spoiler: They've always been

[D. Flame]

Tito Shivan の投稿を引用：

D. Flame の投稿を引用：

Doesn't matter. That was part of the hype and the fun.

It wasn't 'fun' but an issue for lots of users.

If you try to please everyone, you please no one. Most people enjoyed it once it was 8 hours.

Tito Shivan の投稿を引用：

They've always been

When companies still answered to consumers, rather than shareholders (like they do now), their greed was kept within reason.

[Dozer]

if you want a game for cheap go on sketchy key sites idk what to tell you guys lmao

[Tito Shivan]

D. Flame の投稿を引用：

When companies still answered to consumers, rather than shareholders (like they do now), their greed was kept within reason.

Valve has no shareholders.

D. Flame の投稿を引用：

If you try to please everyone, you please no one. Most people enjoyed it once it was 8 hours.

When you're selling something it's to your own interest to try get as many buyers as you can.
Also mind every new rollout of flash sales brought server issues for the first few and last hours as people hurried to get them.

And when it was 8 hour long the timing still meant I had to either get to bed late or wake up early to get one of the sets of flash deals.

[crunchyfrog]

Simple - because people don't know themselves and how human nature works.

You ever spoken to anyone or known anyone that collects ANYTHING?

When I was in my youth I started collecting records. As it turned in later years this ballooned as I ended up having my own DJ business. The point here is that I collected records and when you're after ANYTHING in a collection when you start out or walk into a record faire for your first time, it's like keys to the candy store.

Literally EVERYTHING that you see or come across you do not have and are therefore overwhelmed by how good it is.

And then over time you start getting more and more and you learn one thing - DIMINSHING RETURNS.

You will go to more fairs and you will no longer think everything is what you want as you will spend time leafing through things you don't want or already have. So it APPEARS less enticing.

If you're not introspective and rational enough you can easily misconstrue this as THEIR faul. It's not as good anymore. But it's actually YOU.

I've got thousands of records now, and thousands of video games (because I never sell anything). But I've never been one to make FULL collections of anything. I only ever buy what I want. I'm not that type to chase everything down just because it's completing something.

You go talk to those sort of people and you will find stories of how difficult it gets when you get to the last few percent of games. They get harder to find, so you spend time trapsing though stores and markets seeing the same ♥♥♥♥. And when you do come across one, it's likely really expensive.

And what you also often find is that many people whenever they do actually complete a collection, they end up selling it not too long after. Why? Because the thrill has gone. The actual thrill was in the collecting itself.

So in summary it's a THEM thing and not the sale.