Windows 7/8.1 Users: Your games that work now will STILL work after Jan. 1st

[Ecchi Games]

I've seen a lot of panic about this, and while there's a ton of non-constructive responses like "LOL just upgrade", I do understand full well why certain individuals do not wish to upgrade to a different OS, and the pro reasons FOR do not need to be stated.

However I think it is very important for users of these platforms who are not ready to upgrade to understand that your games that previously worked on Windows 7/8.1 will CONTINUE to work even after the Jan. 1st deadline. This deadline is just official end-of-support for those operating systems, meaning clients on those systems will no longer receive updates. What this actually means is the main launcher/store client might (keyword: might) eventually stop working when a significant revision to the back-end that requires a revision to the front-end (The user client) that these older operating systems won't receive.

However, games that you purchased through Steam will continue to work as long as they are installed on your machine. There may be a few that cease functionality, such as ones that rely on SteamWorks (multiplayer matchmaking and so on). By and large, you should be able to still launch your games locally from your PC through Steam or directly from Windows Explorer. Your games should also continue to update as long as the Steam Client itself is still operational. You will continue to be able to purchase games, if the Windows 7/8.1 client becomes inoperable on the store, you can still purchase games via browser or mobile app and install them through the client.

I do not know how it will affect the accumulation of achievements, cards, or badges.

I just wanted to make this post for some constructive insight to hopefully cut through the multitude of non-constructive posts on the subject from both sides, and perhaps give a bit of piece of mind to those who wish to continue using legacy operating systems.

[rataj]

Messaggio originale di Seraphita:

There's really not much we can do about it.

Oh, I think we could, but in times of cancel culture it's hard to stand up to a group of people who prefer to keep their mouths shut so they can continue living in their bubble. I always wonder how these people fight for rights in real life, in her jobs etc.! Only when they are on the edge they realize how stupid they were not to defend themselves. You can see that in the economic and political situation in the world. It is better to be enslaved than to be happy and living in peace.

Excluding other people (especially poor people) is easier than dealing with the problem.

[SeedsandPlants]

Messaggio originale di rataj:

I assume it will be like UPlay.
-you have to use an older client version (backup the latest client version)
-you can only play SP related content
-you can't use online features like in-Game Shops
-you can't get new archivements on your profile
-you can't play MP anymore
-you can't buy a new game through client

The only reason I'm upgrading to Windows 10 in three days is because of six games and one of them just to be able to play it again with mods.

Uncharted, Dead Island 2, Gotham Knights, Sniper Elite 5, Resident Evil 4 and The Long Dark. And TLD only because MelonLoader is no longer compatible with Windows 7.

Give Linux (Ubuntu or pop_os) a go, and download steam on ubuntu, and try installing MelonLoader and playing it on Linux. I could not install delta force 2 demo on Windows 10, but it works on Linux usung steam and the steam proton compatibility mode. So seriously try that before upgrading to Windows 10. It may allow you to play games that newer Windows no longer work with.

Messaggio originale di Axe:

Messaggio originale di Ecchi Games:

I've seen a lot of panic about this, and while there's a ton of non-constructive responses like "LOL just upgrade"

"LOL just upgrade"

To Linux!

Messaggio originale di C²C^Guyver |NZB|:

You may want to take note of history. Windows XP and Vista were also dropped on January 1st and they indeed did continue to work after that date, up until about March.. working after January 1st does not equal working indefinitely.

EDIT
Also, for some perspective. The only thing you can do under XP and Vista now, is use the forums. You can't download or install games and that's the users themselves saying this.

Sort of changes the definition of working.

Which is why people who play games that are no longer compatible with Windows 10, should switch to Linux, it is the operating system used by the steamdeck.

Messaggio originale di Xautos:

what you and your small band of last stand types

i've been making a lot of fun of the situation because it drives these last stand types nuts

sure your os may be able to keep running steam, but it's only a matter of time until it doesn't, what then? admit your right that in your last stand? Because the reality is you are completely wrong in the end no matter what and you'll be playing hypocrite forced to move up to windows 10 or 11 or do something different like jump across to Linux or MacOS.

This situation is it's only going one way, that is the fully constructive element here, there is nothing else.

So what if some games no longer work on Windows 10? What then? Does the user stick with an unsupported base operating system and dualboot?

Mac is even worse, dropping entirely, 32-bit software support with whatever codename is being dropped, so mac is a complete no-go.

Linuxis the only logical and possible option left. It allows playing older games that Windows 10 no longer supports, and Linux can run on any 32-bit or 64-bih pc, at least, a few more years of 32-bih support will be available.from debian linux.

So, saying just upgrade is blatantly not giving a care in the world about software compatibility, oh ... just upgrade, it doesn't matter.

That's not a viable solution for many games, and Linux is the ONLY option that offers a solution for both game compatibility and updated system.

The steamdeck uses Linux, so it must be quite a ways along for game compatibility. I haven't gotten Dirt 2 to work yet, but so far, the other games I have installed work just fine.

ProtonDB (steam compatibility mode software) is a great unofficial resource for checking gamu sse compability, if you've never installed Ubuntu before.

[rataj]

Messaggio originale di SeedsandPlants:

Give Linux (Ubuntu or pop_os) a go, and download steam on ubuntu, and try installing MelonLoader and playing it on Linux. I could not install delta force 2 demo on Windows 10, but it works on Linux usung steam and the steam proton compatibility mode. So seriously try that before upgrading to Windows 10. It may allow you to play games that newer Windows no longer work with.

Yeah, I was thinking about installing Garuda, but it's cool to hear that MelonLoader is fully supported on Linux. The people in the TLD modding scene never answered this question for me! Thanks for the info.

And hm... Delta Force 2 Demo, I guess the GOG version isnt compatible too!?
I think I know what I will try out tomorrow.

If I hadn't persisted, many people wouldn't be able to play the ME:LE version to this day.

[Hobbit XIII]

GoG

[veracsthane]

this is a none issue. windows is only kinda better then console now and will be replaced first chance we can. most people are quiting outright thanks to the stadia model or looking at the steam deck with very little inbetween.

[DeadBeat]

Messaggio originale di veracsthane:

most people are quiting outright thanks to the stadia model.

How did that work out for Google?

https://stadia.google.com/gg/

[battlezoby]

Messaggio originale di C²C^Guyver |NZB|:

You may want to take note of history. Windows XP and Vista were also dropped on January 1st and they indeed did continue to work after that date, up until about March.. working after January 1st does not equal working indefinitely.

Sort of changes the definition of working.

I thought XP had an "updated" pushed onto it that broke it just about 2 weeks in. But I'm not create with dates, so I won't "swear to it." But I thought it did. Maybe not everyone got
updated at the same time?

Messaggio originale di C²C^Guyver |NZB|:

Also, for some perspective. The only thing you can do under XP and Vista now, is use the forums

No, you can continue to play the games you had installed with it was
shutoff if they run offline... many do. There are many other things too. A friend watched
YouTube videa to get her XP machine running an multiplayer game for years afterwards.
New stuff would break, and need new fixed, but when I she wanted to, she kept it running
about, I dunno, 75% to 80% of the time?

[miakisfan]

Messaggio originale di Ecchi Games:

I've seen a lot of panic about this, and while there's a ton of non-constructive responses like "LOL just upgrade", I do understand full well why certain individuals do not wish to upgrade to a different OS, and the pro reasons FOR do not need to be stated.

However I think it is very important for users of these platforms who are not ready to upgrade to understand that your games that previously worked on Windows 7/8.1 will CONTINUE to work even after the Jan. 1st deadline. This deadline is just official end-of-support for those operating systems, meaning clients on those systems will no longer receive updates. What this actually means is the main launcher/store client might (keyword: might) eventually stop working when a significant revision to the back-end that requires a revision to the front-end (The user client) that these older operating systems won't receive.

However, games that you purchased through Steam will continue to work as long as they are installed on your machine. There may be a few that cease functionality, such as ones that rely on SteamWorks (multiplayer matchmaking and so on). By and large, you should be able to still launch your games locally from your PC through Steam or directly from Windows Explorer. Your games should also continue to update as long as the Steam Client itself is still operational. You will continue to be able to purchase games, if the Windows 7/8.1 client becomes inoperable on the store, you can still purchase games via browser or mobile app and install them through the client.

I do not know how it will affect the accumulation of achievements, cards, or badges.

I just wanted to make this post for some constructive insight to hopefully cut through the multitude of non-constructive posts on the subject from both sides, and perhaps give a bit of piece of mind to those who wish to continue using legacy operating systems.

You obviously missed the topic in which I stated that the game I went to said Jan. 24, 2024 only Windows 10 and up will be working. You folk better start checking the requirement part of the game pages.

Keep ignoring facts and you will face the consequences ... at least you are being ignorant of your own free will. Shame you and others who aren't learning will continue to blame everyone but yourself for your ignorance.

I don't like to see any business lose money but at this point in time Steam purgatory seems like a great place for Windows 7 and 8.1 users.

[SeedsandPlants]

Messaggio originale di rataj:

Messaggio originale di SeedsandPlants:

Give Linux (Ubuntu or pop_os) a go, and download steam on ubuntu, and try installing MelonLoader and playing it on Linux. I could not install delta force 2 demo on Windows 10, but it works on Linux usung steam and the steam proton compatibility mode. So seriously try that before upgrading to Windows 10. It may allow you to play games that newer Windows no longer work with.

Yeah, I was thinking about installing Garuda, but it's cool to hear that MelonLoader is fully supported on Linux. The people in the TLD modding scene never answered this question for me! Thanks for the info.

And hm... Delta Force 2 Demo, I guess the GOG version isnt compatible too!?
I think I know what I will try out tomorrow.

If I hadn't persisted, many people wouldn't be able to play the ME:LE version to this day.

I didn't intend to imply that melon loader will work, I have no idea, and it is not yet listed it the unofficial proton dahabase, so I hope it works. I also do not see Dirt 2 (not dirt rally) listed in protondb, but WineDB says it works, and I don't know how to make it work. So some games need sowme special additions to maintain compatibility, and if these older games are not discussed, they may just be unplayable moving forward.

Nobody wants that. Everyone wants to save these games, no matter when they were developed, so let's please not be rude for not using a certain version of o certain system to use a certain program to play only certain, at the time, supported games.

I am annoyed seeing the "just upgrade" because it obvious these posts don't know that some games do not work on new systems, and admit that openly, which is helpful. Just say, I am not aware of any games that worked on Windows 7 that don't on 10--that's O.K. but with that lack of game experience, don't tell people to "just upgrade" as iy there is no compromise.

Linux is the solution, and is still somewhat of a compromise in game compatibilihy, but Valve is working to solve this, and Wine helps maintain game compatibility that is no longer supported by newer Windows systems.

[UaintSeenMe]

Gabe very famously once said, "piracy is a service issue" and he was right then, as he is still right today.... If the service is no longer available, then again, piracy becomes a service issue.

all this means for the windows 7 user base, is that gaming is about to become a LOT cheaper again.

[rataj]

Messaggio originale di SeedsandPlants:

I am annoyed seeing the "just upgrade" because it obvious these posts don't know that some games do not work on new systems, and admit that openly, which is helpful. Just say, I am not aware of any games that worked on Windows 7 that don't on 10--that's O.K. but with that lack of game experience, don't tell people to "just upgrade" as iy there is no compromise.

I agree and I could draw historical parallels to this, but then many people here would cry again and ask their mother (Steam) for help. People who yelling "just upgrade" are often casual player. As I said before, It's easier to exclude people than to deal with the problem. Without people on older systems, those on newer systems would often just be up in the air. But they will notice that when the real professionals distance themselves and stay away. But then everyone has to understand their problem. And there is also a term for this^^

[Seraphita]

Messaggio originale di rataj:

Excluding other people (especially poor people) is easier than dealing with the problem.

I like how you're not using your logic. Problem: Windows 7 is dead. The logical solution: Upgrade. How hard was that? And btw, I am poor. I still have Windows 10 and without any crap inside it. So what is YOUR excuse? The problem is obvious and so is the solution.

[rataj]

Messaggio originale di Seraphita:

Messaggio originale di rataj:

Excluding other people (especially poor people) is easier than dealing with the problem.

I like how you're not using your logic. Problem: Windows 7 is dead. The logical solution: Upgrade. How hard was that? And btw, I am poor. I still have Windows 10 and without any crap inside it. So what is YOUR excuse? The problem is obvious and so is the solution.

LMFAO
Seems your not poor enough atm!

[Seraphita]

Messaggio originale di rataj:

LMFAO
Seems your not poor enough atm!

If you're THAT poor, why are you even gaming? I mean, at this point. You do realise that I got Windows 10 for FREE, right? There is no need to pay for it. So no problems. We have to move on with time and it doesn't require being rich. A basic build with W10 is good.

Oh and don't give me crap like "We can't play every games". Even I don't buy top graphic games and yet I can play thousands of games just fine with my build. Also, all games work for me on Windows 10. Again, no issues. You're all making this complicated. =/

[xBCxRangers]

Messaggio originale di Seraphita:

Messaggio originale di rataj:

LMFAO
Seems your not poor enough atm!

If you're THAT poor, why are you even gaming? I mean, at this point. You do realise that I got Windows 10 for FREE, right? There is no need to pay for it. So no problems. We have to move on with time and it doesn't require being rich. A basic build with W10 is good.

Oh and don't give me crap like "We can't play every games". Even I don't buy top graphic games and yet I can play thousands of games just fine with my build. Also, all games work for me on Windows 10. Again, no issues. You're all making this complicated. =/

Well, if you're poor, the question is posed to you. How are you gaming if you're poor? But a better question would be, how are you PC gaming if you're poor?

I can understand a gaming console of a few hundred bucks, but not PC, unless, you're in this Win 7, or many other predicaments (graphic cards, and other costly things that can be negated by just going to console_.