Why are Win10 & Win11 users bashing Win7 users when you are the ones who should be bashed

[Sexy Salesman]

Now i am someone who grew up with

dos (Gary Kildall op stolen by Gates, at least you could run doom)

win95 (age of empires anyone?)

win98 (remembering the biggest games i could run were Nox and Sims1 with pentium 1)

xp (remember the boom of program viruses ,but when the user wasnt a moron u were fine)

vista (biggest garbage i ever laid hands on and i rather use 98 or 95 at this point for a laptop)

win7 (the beginning was quite the hassle before some updates made it an solid operating system

win10 (currently using and have had my share of issues with it, and i always regard it rather as a service than a operating system but at least could run the latest games)



So ive been seeing alot these Win7 support ending threads while users with newer operating systems (if u can really even call them that) are bashing older users. I especially find it funny coming from Win11 users who we can safely laber as Microsoft slaves at this point. Win10 users aswell to some degree.

Why should Win7 users abandon their control over Microsoft?
Why should anyone abandon their rights to Microsoft? Including areas of security.
Win10 already does this, i as the owner of a so called operating system have no control over my security and i cant really decline by saying no to whatever update microsoft pushes. (funny kinda what steam does, oh wait ex Microsoft employes)

I for example wouldnt want to get Win11 and all you clowns praising Win11 i wouldnt want to deal with trash like this
https://youtu.be/EqFnVxc3xMo?t=16

What i want is a operating system that i have full control of and not an service that steam already is.
Rather then waste your own time finding things in Win11 (that were once simple on older versions) id rather waste my time learning Linux at this point.

[niel1.meuris]

can i add a steam bootvideo on my pc i cant add it anywhere

[Magic A. I.]

Publicado originalmente por Sexy Salesman:

https://youtu.be/EqFnVxc3xMo?t=16

What a ridiculously pathetic whiny insecure caricature video with a funny uncharismatic fat 30-years-old kid voice. You could have certainly find one much better. Are you a microsoft provocateur purposefully making statements against W11 in such a way that they'll fail?

Anyway. Everyone should indeed switch to Linux in this day and age. If they don't, they are simply behind the curve. That is all.

[Scott, President of Dominos]

Publicado originalmente por Sexy Salesman:

What i want is a operating system that i have full control of and not an service that steam already is.
Rather then waste your own time finding things in Win11 (that were once simple on older versions) id rather waste my time learning Linux at this point.

As someone with a similar OS history to yours:

1. You were never “in control” of your OS. The nature of proprietary OSes is that control over it was always in the hands of the company that created it.

Which, I should clarify, is not necessarily a bad thing, but the best you can hope for is a “benevolent dictatorship”

2. You touched on what you should so at the end. If you truly want an OS that you control, them Linux is your best option.

3. Linux isn’t hard to learn if you have dug into Windows through the command prompt or registry editor. I’d say that if you’re experienced with MSDOS then the “learning curve” is flat.

4. Even if it’s intimidating, there’s no reason not to learn something new. And if you don’t like it, you didn’t burn a bridge and can go back to Windows if you prefer.

[Sexy Salesman]

Publicado originalmente por Kenpoleon Bonaparte:

Publicado originalmente por Sexy Salesman:

1. win95 (age of empires anyone?)

2. win98 (remembering the biggest games i could run were Nox and Sims1 with pentium 1)

1. My first game on PC. Still play it. It's really great to be able to put in that CD anytime I want and NOT have to ask permission from some corporation.

2. I've seen 2 games with that name. I had the one where you were Jack, some nobody living in Florida, and you got sucked into another world through your TV. That was also a great game.

Yea thats the one with jack :)

[Satoru]

Publicado originalmente por Komarimaru:

That video was hilarious. Never seen such incompetence so openly and brazenly shown lol

Its pretty silly because I haven't opened a terminal in years. I'm all PowerShell now and its so much better. I mean I can do all the dumb 'console' stuff but then also do USEFUL stuff as well that would be impossible in the old console.

[Spawn of Totoro]

Publicado originalmente por Sexy Salesman:

How about taking a stand. What happens when Win10 loses support? Are you willingly going for Win11? What happens when Microsoft just one day decides to say hey since noone cares and we have an monopoly lets just sell it for 1k and make additional fees like 50 bucks a month for our service.

That would simple create a market for other OSs such as Linux, so I won't say it is a bad thing if they did.

They have less of a monopoly then you think.

Publicado originalmente por Makise Kurisu:

As someone with a similar OS history to yours:

1. You were never “in control” of your OS. The nature of proprietary OSes is that control over it was always in the hands of the company that created it.

This, 100%!

If someone wants complete control over their own OS, then they need to build their own OS from the ground up.

Even all the Linux Distros are subject to the decisions of the developers of the base Linux kernel.

[Crazy Tiger]

Publicado originalmente por SaLaDiN:

That's not true depending on region and you do own the licences in the EU and can resell them legally.

You can't resell licenses in the EU. The Oracle case showed that the way Steam operates means they don't have to facilitate it and the case in France was a win for Valve after the appeal.

[Satoru]

Publicado originalmente por Magic A. I.:

Anyway. Everyone should indeed switch to Linux in this day and age. If they don't, they are simply behind the curve. That is all.

Telling someone who is by definition a technical luddite because they refuse to get rid of windows 7, to use Linux, is pretty much trying to give a caveman a space shuttle. Linux has way too many quirks and other things that you HAVE to know about in order to use it. Where as windows, by and large, basically works out of the box.

I mean that silly article about "oh look linux runs windows games faster than windows does" has literally in its first part, about how they had to COMPILE THEIR OWN VERSION FROM SOURCE of the GUI because the one built into Arch Linux didn't work. I use Linux for a living at work and I am absolutely positively done with compiling stuff from source. I mean when I was in college and had to compile NetTrek from source, fine. No one was sending out pre-compiled binaries or convenient repos for everything.

[Sexy Salesman]

Publicado originalmente por Spawn of Totoro:

Publicado originalmente por Sexy Salesman:

How about taking a stand. What happens when Win10 loses support? Are you willingly going for Win11? What happens when Microsoft just one day decides to say hey since noone cares and we have an monopoly lets just sell it for 1k and make additional fees like 50 bucks a month for our service.

That would simple create a market for other OSs such as Linux, so I won't say it is a bad thing if they did.

They have less of a monopoly then you think.

Publicado originalmente por Makise Kurisu:

As someone with a similar OS history to yours:

1. You were never “in control” of your OS. The nature of proprietary OSes is that control over it was always in the hands of the company that created it.

This, 100%!

If someone wants complete control over their own OS, then they need to build their own OS from the ground up.

Even all the Linux Distros are subject to the decisions of the developers of the base Linux kernel.

Up untill Win7 i cant remember how i couldnt blacklist windows updates? Meaning i had full control over the system what i wanted on it and what not.

[Spawn of Totoro]

Publicado originalmente por Sexy Salesman:

Up untill Win7 i cant remember how i couldnt blacklist windows updates? Meaning i had full control over the system what i wanted on it and what not.

That is still only partial control, not full control.

[Satoru]

Publicado originalmente por Sexy Salesman:

Up untill Win7 i cant remember how i couldnt blacklist windows updates? Meaning i had full control over the system what i wanted on it and what not.

Note at this point in time, if you're trying to 'blacklist' security updates from Microsoft, you are functionally the kind of person who NEEDS those updates. This thinking of "blacklisting" security updates from Microsoft died 2 decades ago. You NEED these updates from Microsoft. You are not smart enough to be blacklisting security updates.

[Sexy Salesman]

Publicado originalmente por Magic A. I.:

Publicado originalmente por Sexy Salesman:

https://youtu.be/EqFnVxc3xMo?t=16

What a ridiculously pathetic whiny insecure caricature video with a funny uncharismatic fat 30-years-old kid voice. You could have certainly find one much better. Are you a microsoft provocateur purposefully making statements against W11 in such a way that they'll fail?

Anyway. Everyone should indeed switch to Linux in this day and age. If they don't, they are simply behind the curve. That is all.

What a ridiculous statement i could say you are a Linux shill pooping on windows.
My problems with Windows started with W10 when they purposely stopped supporting even their own made garbage like games for windows live. With the excuse of "security" too many companies run with that excuse fishing for more your personal information. A good password was all you ever needed making sure you use it in your machine with a defense software you were happy with. Not having to have a phone where today you agree to all this anti consumer bs to even use it.

[Sexy Salesman]

Publicado originalmente por Satoru:

Publicado originalmente por Sexy Salesman:

Up untill Win7 i cant remember how i couldnt blacklist windows updates? Meaning i had full control over the system what i wanted on it and what not.

Note at this point in time, if you're trying to 'blacklist' security updates from Microsoft, you are functionally the kind of person who NEEDS those updates.

This is exactly the point i make Windows thinks it is better of keeping my computer safe than myself its like listening to you Goverment getting the vaccine since it knows better about your health than yourself...

[Satoru]

Publicado originalmente por Sexy Salesman:

This is exactly the point i make Windows thinks it is better of keeping my computer safe than myself its like listening to you Goverment getting the vaccine since it knows better about your health than yourself...

Again people who 'think' they don't need security updates, are absolutely 100% the kind of people who NEED these updates. Because if you actually knew better, you wouldn't be blacklisting them. You are so far up the peak of the Dunning–Kruger curve if you think you know 'better'.

[Sexy Salesman]

Publicado originalmente por Satoru:

Publicado originalmente por Sexy Salesman:

This is exactly the point i make Windows thinks it is better of keeping my computer safe than myself its like listening to you Goverment getting the vaccine since it knows better about your health than yourself...

Again people who 'think' they don't need security updates, are absolutely 100% the kind of people who NEED these updates. Because if you actually knew better, you wouldn't be blacklisting them. You are so far up the peak of the Dunning–Kruger curve if you think you know 'better'.

Maybe you need Microsoft to think for you i dont. There is enough bloatware that you cant delete in Windows 10 already eating pointlessy resources and capacity.