Kingdom Hearts on Steam breakdown

[Robofish]

Alright so a lot of you Kingdom Hearts fans have been asking this question "When is Kingdom Hearts coming to Steam?" and you will get all sorts of answers like "It will never come to steam" or "lol gay ass buy it on egs" so I thought I'd put my two cents into this discussion.

First off, no it's not permanently exclusive to the Epic Games Store, otherwise they would have said so. Most epic games exclusivity only lasts around a year.

I have been scouring through the internet and couldn't find much of anything related until I found a reddit post that talks about how the latest update of the Kingdom Hearts games seems to have traces of code relating to the Steam Deck (Reddit post: I noticed Steam Input Strings in KH3 i didnt notice it before was that recently added?). From what I have read from the comments this has been confirmed by the SteamDB team.

This to me makes me believe that Square Enix is working on a Steam release but are wanting to make it Steam Deck compatible first before making an announcement. As for why they're taking so long when other games such as Final Fantasy 7 and Twewy didn't take as long... well, it's a collection of games.

Kingdom Hearts 1.5 includes Kingdom Hearts, Chain of Memories and cutscenes of 358/2 days. Kingdom Hearts 2.5 includes Kingdom Hearts 2, Birth by Sleep and cutscenes from re:coded
Kingdom Hearts 2.8 includes Dream Drop Distance and Birth by Sleep 0.2
Then you have Kingdom Hearts 3

That's like 7 games to get working on the Steam Deck as opposed to one so it's obviously going to take a lot longer to make each game compatible with the Steam Deck.

[Purple]

The Kingdom Hearts games released on Epic on March 30th 2021 according to the epic store. I see most people saying that Epic exclusivity lasts 1 year. However, I saw one article online giving the example of Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 1 + 2, which was Epic exclusive for three years.

So I would recomend keeping an eye on the Square Enix page this April 2024 to see if Kingdom Hearts releases during that time.

FYI the KH games were 60% off on Epic during the winter sale 2023, so if they do release this spring, I recommend waiting for the summer sale to roll around in June.

[niralamart000]

i have the entire collection on xbox, holy moly what a boring game. it's not worth the hype

[Raging Panda]

Saven eredeti hozzászólása:

Bro it's doomed. We're never gonna get it. I've been waiting for helllllllla ages and it's gonna be PS5 -> EGS for FF7 Remake Part 2 as well.

Um, no it's not. FF7 remake part 1 came to steam.... granted, it took them way too damn long. But, notice the trend has been, since KH3 and FF7's launch, to release with less and less exclusivity time. They realized they weren't making any money on EGS.

[Aya]

Raging Panda eredeti hozzászólása:

Saven eredeti hozzászólása:

Bro it's doomed. We're never gonna get it. I've been waiting for helllllllla ages and it's gonna be PS5 -> EGS for FF7 Remake Part 2 as well.

Um, no it's not. FF7 remake part 1 came to steam.... granted, it took them way too damn long. But, notice the trend has been, since KH3 and FF7's launch, to release with less and less exclusivity time. They realized they weren't making any money on EGS.

We still need to hear about FFXVI's upcoming PC port, though considering that the contract has ended and we still haven't gotten a formal announcement yet, I don't think Square-Enix will be the one announcing FFXVI Windows Edition but rather Epic Games.

[Raging Panda]

Aya eredeti hozzászólása:

Raging Panda eredeti hozzászólása:

Um, no it's not. FF7 remake part 1 came to steam.... granted, it took them way too damn long. But, notice the trend has been, since KH3 and FF7's launch, to release with less and less exclusivity time. They realized they weren't making any money on EGS.

We still need to hear about FFXVI's upcoming PC port, though considering that the contract has ended and we still haven't gotten a formal announcement yet, I don't think Square-Enix will be the one announcing FFXVI Windows Edition but rather Epic Games.

They said it was gonna be like a year or so....

[Haruspex]

Aya eredeti hozzászólása:

I don't think Square-Enix will be the one announcing FFXVI Windows Edition but rather Epic Games.

I don't think Epic can afford that kind of exclusivity deal anymore. 5 years of a store at negative profitability. Multiple lost lawsuits. Ordered to pay millions in legal fees. Ordered to pay millions in penalties for "dark patterns" and taking advantage of kids. Massive divestitures and a laying off of a significant portion of their employees just to stay solvent...

The only way I see another Square Enix Epic exclusive happening is if Square Enix willingly releases as an Epic First Run[store.epicgames.com] game, but the past several Square Enix titles have completely skipped Epic Game's store, even as non exclusive. This tells me that A: Epic's exclusive offers either aren't happening, or aren't good enough for Square anymore, and B: Selling on Epic isn't worth it to them at all, 88% cut be damned.

[RPG Gamer Man]

Haruspex eredeti hozzászólása:

Aya eredeti hozzászólása:

I don't think Square-Enix will be the one announcing FFXVI Windows Edition but rather Epic Games.

I don't think Epic can afford that kind of exclusivity deal anymore. 5 years of a store at negative profitability. Multiple lost lawsuits. Ordered to pay millions in legal fees. Ordered to pay millions in penalties for "dark patterns" and taking advantage of kids. Massive divestitures and a laying off of a significant portion of their employees just to stay solvent...

The only way I see another Square Enix Epic exclusive happening is if Square Enix willingly releases as an Epic First Run[store.epicgames.com] game, but the past several Square Enix titles have completely skipped Epic Game's store, even as non exclusive. This tells me that A: Epic's exclusive offers either aren't happening, or aren't good enough for Square anymore, and B: Selling on Epic isn't worth it to them at all, 88% cut be damned.

True. Epic Game store has lost money giving away free games, according to news sources. They might have it on their store, but i don't think it will be a EGS exclusive. Actually, we may even see the end of EGS exclusives, which to me is fine.

[BadPanda]

Saven eredeti hozzászólása:

Bro it's doomed. We're never gonna get it. I've been waiting for helllllllla ages and it's gonna be PS5 -> EGS for FF7 Remake Part 2 as well.

Tiberius eredeti hozzászólása:

KH3 and Alan wake 2 most likely will remain epic exclusive forever

Aya eredeti hozzászólása:

Sharki eredeti hozzászólása:

Any updates

Pretty sure I'm not the only one who said this but if Kingdom Hearts' EGS exclusivity is only temporary you'd all be playing it on Steam right now

The same comments over and over again Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 1+2 was a timed epic exclusive for 3 years, if it's the same for Kingdom Hearts, it will release in march/april this year, without any earlier announcements. It is possible, that if Missing Link does well, we'll also get a home release trailer (Nomura already said they're considering it), and a new teaser for KH 4 (they won't show it prior to FF VII Rebirth release date, so it doesn't steal any spotlight).

I do not believe that any publisher would sign a contract for a forever lasting exclusivity deal, that would be a very bad business move. As for EGS, I don't think it's here to stay for a long time, it doesn't earn money, it's losing it. Fortnite earns money, so it makes sense for Epic to keep it out of other storefronts, but the way EGS works right now, if something doesn't drastically change in the next two-three years, they'll close it.

[RPG Gamer Man]

do not forget about shenmue 3 and maneater, both EGS exclusives at one time, and now both are on steam now.

[cSg|mc-Hotsauce]

RPG Gamer Man eredeti hozzászólása:

do not forget about shenmue 3 and maneater, both EGS exclusives at one time, and now both are on steam now.

Shenmue 3 was a Kickstarter game and having EGS also pay for exclusivity for the digital copy reward made it easier to also get it on Steam later on.

[RPG Gamer Man]

cSg|mc-Hotsauce eredeti hozzászólása:

RPG Gamer Man eredeti hozzászólása:

do not forget about shenmue 3 and maneater, both EGS exclusives at one time, and now both are on steam now.

Shenmue 3 was a Kickstarter game and having EGS also pay for exclusivity for the digital copy reward made it easier to also get it on Steam later on.

:winterbunny2023:

Interesting, i heard it was a kickstarter but i did not know about the digital reward thing. Thanks for the info.

[cSg|mc-Hotsauce]

RPG Gamer Man eredeti hozzászólása:

cSg|mc-Hotsauce eredeti hozzászólása:

Shenmue 3 was a Kickstarter game and having EGS also pay for exclusivity for the digital copy reward made it easier to also get it on Steam later on.

Interesting, i heard it was a kickstarter but i did not know about the digital reward thing. Thanks for the info.

It was odd EGS took up the job for the digital reward, not surprisingly though but at least it only made a small percentage mad. Most people were just happy it was a successful campaign.

[Aya]

BadPanda eredeti hozzászólása:

I do not believe that any publisher would sign a contract for a forever lasting exclusivity deal, that would be a very bad business move. As for EGS, I don't think it's here to stay for a long time, it doesn't earn money, it's losing it. Fortnite earns money:MFF_Treasure:, so it makes sense for Epic to keep it out of other storefronts, but the way EGS works right now, if something doesn't drastically change in the next two-three years, they'll close it.

I mean, if Square-Enix were convinced that a PC port of Kingdom Hearts 3 was a waste of time, the EGS exclusivity deal would have been necessary for the PC port to even exist in the first place. I think it's more likely than not that KH3 on PC exists only because Epic funded it, which would imply permanent exclusivity.

[WolfEisberg]

BadPanda eredeti hozzászólása:

As for EGS, I don't think it's here to stay for a long time, it doesn't earn money, it's losing it. Fortnite earns money:MFF_Treasure:, so it makes sense for Epic to keep it out of other storefronts, but the way EGS works right now, if something doesn't drastically change in the next two-three years, they'll close it.

Nope. They are purposely losing money on EGS due to their marketing/investment spending in growth. When they no longer want to invest into growth, all they will do is stop the free games, coupons, and exclusivity contracts, and the store instantly becomes profitable.

It is perfectly normal for a business to be losing money for many years, even up to 20 years, while they concentrate on growth. Netflix, Spotify, Unity, Tesla, are all examples of companies that ran at a loss for 7-20 years while they concentrated on growth.

[Paratech2008]

They usually invest in the business and make it compeitive,

Epic's store is prehistoric and the masses biting at the free games aren't buying games much.

Epic's store isn't as good as EA, Uplay, GOG, or Steam. I don't see any progress happening.