deleting account

[mud]

please explain to me why i lose the games i have paid for if i delete my account. i have paid for them so i should own that copy yes? how is this considered legal for steam to not allow me to keep the games i have bought?

[Crazy Tiger]

Because you didn't buy games, you only paid for licenses that are to be used through the platform (Steam in this case) and thusly are tied to the account on said platform. They're not separated. So deleting the account also means deleting the tied licenses. Which you all agreed to per the SSA, mind.

Welcome to the world of licensing.

[Lucifix]

because you are deleting the account its bound to

[Overseer]

Maybe you should have read the terms of service and subscriber agreement before you accepted them.

[Spawn of Totoro]

https://store.steampowered.com/subscriber_agreement/

2. LICENSES ⏶

A. General Content and Services License

Steam and your Subscription(s) require the download and installation of Content and Services onto your computer. Valve hereby grants, and you accept, a non-exclusive license and right, to use the Content and Services for your personal, non-commercial use (except where commercial use is expressly allowed herein or in the applicable Subscription Terms). This license ends upon termination of (a) this Agreement or (b) a Subscription that includes the license. The Content and Services are licensed, not sold. Your license confers no title or ownership in the Content and Services. To make use of the Content and Services, you must have a Steam Account and you may be required to be running the Steam client and maintaining a connection to the Internet.

You get a limited use license when you purchase the game. You also have to have a Steam account in order to maintain said license. By deleting the account, you delete the license for the games as well.

[mud]

ok so i guess i will be losing my games then. i remember when at one time you used to actually own the game you bought, but i guess we only really rent them till we decide to leave.

[Komarimaru]

Originally posted by Strawberry:

ok so i guess i will be losing my games then. i remember when at one time you used to actually own the game you bought, but i guess we only really rent them till we decide to leave.

Unfortunately, this was never the case. You've never owned a game you bought, you owned the physical media for it, and held a license to use it.

[Aachen]

Originally posted by Strawberry:

ok so i guess i will be losing my games then. i remember when at one time you used to actually own the game you bought, but i guess we only really rent them till we decide to leave.

You didn’t own them back then, either — you owned a medium with code on’t. You simply had sufficient physical control that you might more easily ignore that license.

[Phénomènes Mystiques]

I never researched nor asked this question, but, "Is there a way to reactivate a Steam account? And if so, what is the grace period time?" Thank you.

[rawWwRrr]

Originally posted by Wynters:

I never researched nor asked this question, but, "Is there a way to reactivate a Steam account? And if so, what is the grace period time?" Thank you. :sadistpolite:

https://help.steampowered.com/en/faqs/view/21A6-7C93-6CFE-100B#howtorecover

[Phénomènes Mystiques]

Originally posted by rawWwRrr:

Originally posted by Wynters:

I never researched nor asked this question, but, "Is there a way to reactivate a Steam account? And if so, what is the grace period time?" Thank you.

https://help.steampowered.com/en/faqs/view/21A6-7C93-6CFE-100B#howtorecover

So, by Valve stating this they are protected from Civil lawsuits. This really doesn't seem right/lawful to me because even Gmail has a restoration grace period.

Reminds me of how retail pricing is a scam as the consumer must pay for storage and bills that the retailer provides and pays for which increases the item cost over wholesale.

[Crazy Tiger]

Originally posted by Wynters:

Originally posted by rawWwRrr:

https://help.steampowered.com/en/faqs/view/21A6-7C93-6CFE-100B#howtorecover

So, by Valve stating this they are protected from Civil lawsuits. This really doesn't seem right/lawful to me because even Gmail has a restoration grace period.

When you delete your account, you have to provide proofs of ownership. Then, there is a period of 30 days before the account is actually deleted. People even get an extra reminder just before the 30 days are up.

[Komarimaru]

Originally posted by Wynters:

Originally posted by rawWwRrr:

https://help.steampowered.com/en/faqs/view/21A6-7C93-6CFE-100B#howtorecover

So, by Valve stating this they are protected from Civil lawsuits. This really doesn't seem right/lawful to me because even Gmail has a restoration grace period.

Reminds me of how retail pricing is a scam as the consumer must pay for storage and bills that the retailer provides and pays for which increases the item cost.

You've given a minor grace period of like, a month to get it back. But once you've deleted your account, this is you deciding to break your contract with Valve, so no they are not obligated to keep anything.

Technically they don't even have to have a grace period, but they do. And if you go so far as to delete your account, well... That's on you, isn't it? Why would they keep that information when deleting means to remove it fully?

[Phénomènes Mystiques]

Okay, I see the grace period statement now. I must have glossed over it at first.

[rawWwRrr]

Originally posted by Wynters:

Originally posted by rawWwRrr:

https://help.steampowered.com/en/faqs/view/21A6-7C93-6CFE-100B#howtorecover

So, by Valve stating this they are protected from Civil lawsuits. This really doesn't seem right/lawful to me because even Gmail has a restoration grace period.

When was legislation passed that requires online services to provide grace periods to restore deleted accounts? Valve could, at its discretion, delete someone's account at any time with no warning and not cross any law for it.

Originally posted by Wynters:

Reminds me of how retail pricing is a scam as the consumer must pay for storage and bills that the retailer provides and pays for which increases the item cost over wholesale.

Scam? A retailer should sell products at their cost with no compensation for providing that product? They incur the costs for storage and bills to provide the convenience for you to obtain those products. That service comes at a cost to you through their upcharges. That's not a scam. That's business.

Originally posted by Wynters:

Okay, I see the grace period statement now. I must have glossed over it at first. :sadistembarrased:

It's not the first thing you've glossed over, apparently.

[Phénomènes Mystiques]

How did you get off my block list?

Originally posted by rawWwRrr:

Valve could, at its discretion, delete someone's account at any time with no warning and not cross any law for it.

This is called theft and is punishable by law. If someone rips you off, you can sue them too or have them arrested. Theft is a felony over a certain amount. Online scamming should be tied with identity theft penalties and without scrutiny, as well as international violations pertaining theft across borders. No remorse for thieves, hackers, and scammers.

Originally posted by rawWwRrr:

They incur the costs for storage and bills to provide the convenience for you to obtain those products. That service comes at a cost to you through their upcharges. That's not a scam. That's business.

But costs goes with all products even online products and drop shipping. Costs even will add up over other items to pick up any slack or debt even if the retailer is at fault for said debt.

We also see this in the US where everyone is paying the EV tax on their electric bill even if they don't own an electric vehicle.

Online price gouging is rampant after Covid-19, even on Steam where Valve is facing a multitude of Class-action lawsuits.