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Although I live below the poverty line the country is classified rich. I myself can't easily affort a new system and system parts are partly due to the country being rich, pretty expensive here. (it takes a couple of years to gather the money for some people basically, which is dumb alone since companies want people to replace their pc as often as possible.)
Now that is insulting. xD After all, people who stay on those platforms need to maintain it themselves much more than upgraders. Upgraders don't even need to clean their hardware if they upgrade often.
That is not my own reason and it is very unlikely that will happen with modern windows systems. I think the last time a system did that was with Vista.
Windows 7 and windows 10 and 11 aren't that different. Anyway, that's not that big of a deal. What is much worse however is the fact that microsoft keeps hiding features, settings and configurations more and more; relocating stuff and adding more bloat that needs to be tuned, turned off or removed. Newer systems are less convenient for the power user.
Installing linux is frightening for a lot of people. Uninstalling linux is more of a pain for them. They can't easily remove something they installed with the same ease, which makes them scared. Linux nowadays indeed even configuring is easier than microsoft.
I would say its laziness, partly. Like I already mentioned "why replace something that isn't broken." -- We're used to a system. We know how it works, where to find what, etc. We can fix it even if it becomes locked by ransomware since we even know about exploits that bypass stuff. Hopping over to another system, basically makes all of that meaningless and would make us needing to relearn the entire system.
With linux, we'd need to install custom programs we like (which we first need to find and get to know, which we don't even know the names of, etc.)
htop over top for example, idk.
Yes. xD
And they earn from you even afterward due to privacy intrusion and other malware practises done by the system.
Exactly this too, diffidently.
Windows Store why? for example indeed. xD
Not space, but hardware itself. Newer system requires DDR5? RAM nowadays, TMP 2.0, etc. It means new motherboard. New motherboard means new whole system. Sigh-
New case, more space taking stuff in the room. More e-waste, unless you keep it.
aaaa--- the dumbness of it all. Stupid greedy companies forcing you to upgrade because screw you people with little room.
That can be patched though. Classic Shell, etc.
Diffidently this.
Eww... indeed. Lets not forget Microsoft testing their new ad spaces in File Explorer as well on Windows 11, and then accidentally pushing it to public (too soon), then quickly hiding it.
Yes, and lets not forget Intel and AMD also implementing spy processors inside their SoCs. (Intel Management Engine got controversy because of this)
Unfortunately these companies updated the linux kernel to support these things.)
so... its not entirely escapable by going Linux, but Microsoft is still more intrusive.
Nope, but ...
kinda like money, either you're controlled by the fear of losing it or making less of it than others, or you control it and spend it when you wish, despite hating it and its influence over companies, people and everything, you deal with the parts you can.
Microsoft will be in your face; the question is not just why, but how do you deal with it. you can suffer under it or use what you can of it to your advantage basically.
Because the person who provides the "something" wants to replace it. As the person who receives the "something," your choices are to accept the replacement or lose the "something."
In one of these hundreds of threads somewhere I listed a bunch of things I wish I could still buy, but I can't because they are no longer available on the market. Like electronics you could DIY repair yourself or a downspout extender for my gutters that isn't made of plastic or a compact hatchback with AWD. I'd even be willing to pay a premium for those items, recognizing that they cost more to produce, but they don't exist because there aren't enough people like me creating enough demand to make providing those goods profitable anymore. If I want those things I'm going to have to travel back in time or figure out how to manufacture them myself. That's just life.
The main functions of the OS aren't provided by a third party after you have obtained the full product. Those 'service' parts (that are provided for by someone who wishes to replace those or stops providing them) aren't truly needed. The system (complete PC with OS) itself runs fine. It isn't broken. Its functional.
Security can be provided (if you need it to be software that provides it) by using a firewall, specific nat arrangement, virus scanner and a browser that works on the OS (firefox, tor, etc.). If you need to access web-services (websites, etc.), you're still good to go.
Even if Microsoft and Google stop existing, the PC and its OS still operate. The browser installed on it can still access websites, etc.
So there really is no 'service'. The core of the OS is something that you have for yourself, much like a TV that hasn't degraded or broken down.
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In the older days windows would slow down over time or get other bugs, as if it was programmed to do so. However... my system is as speedy as it was. I don't notice this degrading quality at all.
My PC isn't even a decade old, yet to upgrade I would need a whole new pc (due to the TMP requirement at least). (Unless I use a custom installation of windows.)
but honestly i don't see a need to upgrade as what I want access to I still have access to as well, so... idk.
So basically I am comparing it to a phone.
Need to drop Win7 because of security... right.
Windows 7 can use chromium up to v109, from 2023.01.
Steam uses Chromium v85, from 2020.09.
Do you any examples of games not working on win10 but working on Win7?
I haven't had any and I've played plenty of old games.
Updates breaking stuff? Incredible rare. I don't think I've had any sort of issues.
The account for me is a bigger quality of life because I remember the username and password and when I re install my PC I can just log back into that one. It's also connected to my Xbox Live account as well.
Any major site on the web is gonna collect your data. Being Win7 will not stop this.
At the moment I'd bet there are more games that won't run on Win7 than on Win10.
Tech changes rapidly.
I recall when I bought my graphics card, Vulkan was in alpha or... maybe beta. Anyway something drastically changed and they couldn't provide drivers for it anymore due to hardware changes that they made on later cards. xD
Even though at that time it was one of the newest cards. Sigh-
Honestly it wasn't really an option back then either if you look at software and hardware alone; but for most things... it wasn't that relevant.
Like, it takes a while before such new APIs are implemented. I recall not long later there were Metal API issues, because OpenGL was dropped by Apple.
Getting the latest gated hardware isn't that good of an idea either. M1 Processors from apple for example, messed up soldered on SSDs on people's Macs.
(and when I read that, I thought "but they test these things and make sure they work as intended.")
(but I mean, apple has been known for trying planned obselence tactics. They just get worse every year it seemed to me at that time.)
But anyway, that GPU was as such expensive so I kept it.
I answered a couple of other reasons in punchobastardo's list of assumptions:
https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/0/3830914916567683255/?ctp=4#c3830914916569436096
This is a strong reason for staying on the current OS.
(Aside from the cost to move on I mean.)
And partly its also a way to object to the way customers get treated sometimes. You buy hardware "haha, its obselete now." (or replaced by something better, see my GPU example).
I'm not rich... compared to other members of this country.
(I maybe rich compared to a very poor place in Africa or North Korea or whatever yeah, but... relavant purchasing power basically.)
I can't affort a whole system every few years, nor can I keep up with the latest greatest graphics.
Yeah I should buy a new system xd
and that is also another wall. If I just needed to upgrade to Linux it would be easier basically, but DX level support is relevant for gaming, as well as simply newer technologies on the GPUs...
Dude enabling private mode or a security minded search engine does ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.
When requested your ISP can see everything and will provide the data to government agencies. Before you answer with "muh VPN", it's still possible to track your movement and data online. Even TOR isn't foolproof since a lot of the exit nodes are under central intelligence agencies management.
Any smartphone that you are using is spying and collecting more data then windows 10/11 currently is doing
You need to know the battles to fight. In short any internet connected device poses a vulnerability risk.
- Fear that the forced updates will break something.
- Will my old - but still good - software and hardware work on Windows 10/11?
- Not a fan of the UI of Windows 10/11. It doesn't seem as cohesive as 7 (or 8.1 with Classic Shell).
Once every 15 years is constant updating?
i could be wrong...
is there anyone here that thinks they wont be using a computer in 5 years...
you have the internet... will you be closing that down in 5 years...
do you have a mobile phone as well..
do you have a streaming service as well...
will you be buying games over the next few years...
These may not be on steam but are examples on games that worked on win7 but not on win 10