online cheating epidemic.

[holdem]

How do people enjoy online games knowing there is most likely always someone cheating?

[✨Saint✨]

You kill the cheater first. Report, block and move on.

[cSg|mc-Hotsauce]

Report cheaters properly using the report tools the game developer outlines.

[holdem]

That's like saying some one get killed, cops catch the criminal and then saying all is good nothing happened.

[cSg|mc-Hotsauce]

Originally posted by holdem:

That's like saying some one get killed, cops catch the criminal and then saying all is good nothing happened.

It's nothing like that at all.

[holdem]

Originally posted by cSg|mc-Hotsauce:

Originally posted by holdem:

That's like saying some one get killed, cops catch the criminal and then saying all is good nothing happened.

It's nothing like that at all.

:qr:

But it is...... legit players get affected all the time and cheaters get banned after they had their fun. We should not have to deal with cheaters in the first place.
Online game publishers need to step up and provide us a cheat free environment.

[Crazy Tiger]

Unless there is an obvious cheater, people likely just tend to focus on playing the game and have fun.

Originally posted by holdem:

Online game publishers need to step up and provide us a cheat free environment.

How?

[KalGimpa]

depends on the type of game

pvp/competitive?

i'd be pissed and report

pve?

don't really care, as long as it doesn't take away from my fun

Originally posted by holdem:

Originally posted by cSg|mc-Hotsauce:

It's nothing like that at all.

:qr:

But it is...... legit players get affected all the time and cheaters get banned after they had their fun. We should not have to deal with cheaters in the first place.
Online game publishers need to step up and provide us a cheat free environment.

yeah, when you figure out how, without going console lockdown on my pc, patent the idea and get rich

seriously,it is not like the people that make and sell these games do not want to get rid of cheaters

[Tito Shivan]

I play with friends, or single player vs bots.
I stopped caring about multiplayer long before cheaters, the moment 'competitive' gaming became a thing and brought tons of toxicity into gaming.

[holdem]

Originally posted by Crazy Tiger:

Unless there is an obvious cheater, people likely just tend to focus on playing the game and have fun.

Originally posted by holdem:

Online game publishers need to step up and provide us a cheat free environment.

How?

Invest money in research and development something this billion dollar industry obviously doesn't want to.

[Crazy Tiger]

Originally posted by holdem:

Originally posted by Crazy Tiger:

Unless there is an obvious cheater, people likely just tend to focus on playing the game and have fun.


How?

Invest money in research and development something this billion dollar industry obviously doesn't want to.

They already do that. Even "locked" systems like consoles have cheater issues. You might want to consider that there is no actual silver bullet against cheating.

[Maria]

Originally posted by holdem:

How do people enjoy online games knowing there is most likely always someone cheating?

The same way as to how you enjoy your life fairly (working your ass off to get money) knowing that there is someone out there, living their life to the fullest by exploiting others.
We know that it is irritating, but there is not much we can do, so we just continue our game.

[Nx Machina]

Originally posted by holdem:

But it is...... legit players get affected all the time and cheaters get banned after they had their fun. We should not have to deal with cheaters in the first place.
Online game publishers need to step up and provide us a cheat free environment.

A cheat free environment does not exist.

There are people whose obsession is to create cheats and there is the never ending battle for game developers to counter those cheats.

[holdem]

Originally posted by Crazy Tiger:

Originally posted by holdem:

Invest money in research and development something this billion dollar industry obviously doesn't want to.

They already do that. Even "locked" systems like consoles have cheater issues. You might want to consider that there is no actual silver bullet against cheating.

All they seem to do is hire a company like battle eye who are clearly not able to stop cheaters.

[Elucidator]

In my own experience, cheating and narcissism in online communities are practically connected. e.g.; the cheaters tend to be very toxic and behave almost the exact same way.
> sensitive to criticism.
> appeal to the idea of being vastlly more than others or more capable
> the need to be special, be treated special, be validated, admired. (either as villain or all good)
> need for control
> lack of empathy
> entitlement
> etc. (look up the behavior 'narcissism', or simply look up the dark-factor of personality traits)
(also yes, vulnerable narcissism indeed, and indeed it is for a large part egoism; but usually its about control over others and the need to abuse that control, to keep confirming that control.)

As such even in PvE settings cheaters will try to max out on cheating.
and I mean real cheaters, not those that found a tool and wanted to try it out for no reason, because you have those people as well. (that don't take games seriously and don't see using such tool as a cheat, but more as a.. different experience they could try out as well)
--(unfortunately they too tend to at least while not knowing ruin people's fun becaus ethey take mobs away or max out on profit or quest time or events, etc.)

PvE cheaters will for example grab every mob, leaving nothing for you.
Max out on the server's random number generator; (if they can kill 4x as many mobs, chances of you obtaining the drop you want are 1/6 x 1/6 x 1/6 x 1/6 instead of 1/6. xD)

Aside that,
you also have cheaters that make the game and cheating a business. (they tend to try and grab rare drops to sell for fame and money)
and its for them a money game. They also abuse the in game market, etc.
and that too... leads to toxicity.

Imagine needing a house, not even being able to rent one because its 8K a month and they're not going lower because they're selling. Stuff like that.

Originally posted by holdem:

How do people enjoy online games knowing there is most likely always someone cheating?

So to answer this, you don't.
Don't play that game.

[holdem]

Originally posted by Nx Machina:

Originally posted by holdem:

But it is...... legit players get affected all the time and cheaters get banned after they had their fun. We should not have to deal with cheaters in the first place.
Online game publishers need to step up and provide us a cheat free environment.

A cheat free environment does not exist.

There are people whose obsession is to create cheats and there is the never ending battle for game developers to counter those cheats.

I don't believe this.
How to banks provide us save online money?????
Seems more like their anti cheat systems are focused on catching cheaters after it happened.
What they need is software that is able to scan user side game files and input.