My solution for 2024 windows 7 support- A VIRTUAL MACHINE INSTALLATION

[Athens]

If Steam refuses to work on windows 7 I'll simply run windows 10 or 11 in a virtual box and link the steam installation from the virtual box to my Windows 7 install.
No need to cry about it and throw a fit. The argument many windows 7 users have is their PC does everything they want fine, and they like 7.

Windows 7 has been a great unobtrusive OS and I plan to continue using it until Microsoft stops re skinning it and calling it 8-10-11-12 or whatever new OS number they want to staple to it.
Literally the only program I use that has "dropped" windows 7 has been Quickbooks and I simply run that in a VM. The same will work for Steam.
Not worried about any performance impacts. I've tested this before when windows 10 was new and this machine has plenty of power and resources headroom to make any changes not worth the effort.
The Red warning banner is offensive. I'll find a way to remove that and continue on as I have been.

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引用自 Eisdrache：

The only game I stopped playing was Fortnite, because AntiCheat kicks you out after 5 min playing in Linux. At first, I booted Windows just for Fortnite, but it was too annoying over time, so I found other stuff to play.
Most games run fine in Linux, only some Anti-Cheat games have trouble, if the Devs dont enable Linux-Support for their Anti-Cheat.

https://www.protondb.com/

That's not a correct statement and that website isn't everything. Lots of games that aren't anti-cheat don't work in Linux. Also many games on the ProtonDB website listed as functional don't actually function when we try to run them. I've tried Ubuntu last month. One of my favorite games (Carmageddon: Max Damage) is listed Silver on ProtonDB but it won't even start up at all in linux (even trying all the proton versions). I did get it to run once but it crashed at the main menu and there's nothing to do and no way to fix it. In fact less than half of my entire steam library worked in linux. Many games I have are listed silver or gold on ProtonDB but they don't even run at all in linux.

Linux gaming is *NOT* ready for "prime time" yet as a direct windows replacement.

[Defeatist]

I cant participate in a debate about Linux cuz I have no idea since I ve never seen any other OS than Windows franchise in my entire life. Only thing I know is that most games's requirements dont even refer Linux

[Defeatist]

引用自 Crashed：

引用自 Defeatist：

That should be fine normally, but if for some reason the game insists on using the incompatible integrated graphics, simply disable it if you have no displays attached to the motherboard outputs.

My issue is that my pc freezes suddenly in Win 10 especially during multitasking and I try to find the reason cuz in Win 7 works like a charm. So I supposed that DirectX 12 may cause me the problem. But since my gpu can run DirectX 12 then its not the case I guess. I run Win 7 with AHCI control but when I install Win 10 it turn automatically to IDE so I also suspect that. I wonder if I run Win 10 on AHCI my problem will be solved. Thanks a lot for your time.

[Elucidator]

引用自 Athens：

If Steam refuses to work on windows 7 I'll simply run windows 10 or 11 in a virtual box and link the steam installation from the virtual box to my Windows 7 install.
No need to cry about it and throw a fit. The argument many windows 7 users have is their PC does everything they want fine, and they like 7.

Windows 7 has been a great unobtrusive OS and I plan to continue using it until Microsoft stops re skinning it and calling it 8-10-11-12 or whatever new OS number they want to staple to it.
Literally the only program I use that has "dropped" windows 7 has been Quickbooks and I simply run that in a VM. The same will work for Steam.
Not worried about any performance impacts. I've tested this before when windows 10 was new and this machine has plenty of power and resources headroom to make any changes not worth the effort.
The Red warning banner is offensive. I'll find a way to remove that and continue on as I have been.

It is diffidently an option
Virtual Machines however require RAM, and not everyone has the RAM available for it. You can also put the hypervisor on your hardware directly and dualboot into a virtual system or your pure OS. It shouldn't cause any issue provided that the virtualization works properly and can emulate newer hardware on older systems. (I don't know about this)

The red banner can be removed by editting the UI js files (skin files basically) See the SteamUI directory. I don't know where the value is exactly, but you can diffidently turn it off there.

[Defeatist]

引用自 Elucidator：

It is diffidently an option
Virtual Machines however require RAM, and not everyone has the RAM available for it. You can also put the hypervisor on your hardware directly and dualboot into a virtual system or your pure OS. It shouldn't cause any issue provided that the virtualization works properly and can emulate newer hardware on older systems. (I don't know about this)

The red banner can be removed by editting the UI js files (skin files basically) See the SteamUI directory. I don't know where the value is exactly, but you can diffidently turn it off there.

The question is if a system has problem to run Win 10 normally; could it run it through VM?

[Eagle_of_Fire]

引用自 Defeatist：

引用自 Elucidator：

It is diffidently an option
Virtual Machines however require RAM, and not everyone has the RAM available for it. You can also put the hypervisor on your hardware directly and dualboot into a virtual system or your pure OS. It shouldn't cause any issue provided that the virtualization works properly and can emulate newer hardware on older systems. (I don't know about this)

The red banner can be removed by editting the UI js files (skin files basically) See the SteamUI directory. I don't know where the value is exactly, but you can diffidently turn it off there.

The question is if a system has problem to run Win 10 normally; could it run it through VM?

If it is because it is an old program which natively run in a lower version, then yes definitively. In fact that's one of the main use of VMware. I've used a program named DOSBox for years, for example, to be able to run DOS based programs. And this ever since the late era of Win98 (but mostly since Win XP).

VMware main use is to emulate old OSes and thus run incompatible programs with modern OS and hardware.

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引用自 Eagle_of_Fire：

If it is because it is an old program which natively run in a lower version, then yes definitively. In fact that's one of the main use of VMware. I've used a program named DOSBox for years, for example, to be able to run DOS based programs. And this ever since the late era of Win98 (but mostly since Win XP).

VMware main use is to emulate old OSes and thus run incompatible programs with modern OS and hardware.

I don't think that's quite what they were asking with their question. Vmware can also be used the other way: Older systems testing forwards. I did use vmware a lot back in the days. Say for example I used Windows XP (Or Vista-x64 later) -> I could run vmware and try out Windows 7 while the host OS was still Windows vista or XP to see what a newer OS is like without actually installing it. Then later in Windows 7 I was also able to run Windows 8, Windows 8.1, and even Windows 10 in a VM to test it out without actually installing it on my system. And even right now in Windows 10 I have a Windows 11 VM I boot occasionally once every few months to see if updates made it usable enough to switch to it. Unfortunately not yet but I am glad to have a vmware license to do things like this.

[Eagle_of_Fire]

引用自 🦊Λℚ𝓤ΛƑΛᗯҜᔕ🦊：

引用自 Eagle_of_Fire：

If it is because it is an old program which natively run in a lower version, then yes definitively. In fact that's one of the main use of VMware. I've used a program named DOSBox for years, for example, to be able to run DOS based programs. And this ever since the late era of Win98 (but mostly since Win XP).

VMware main use is to emulate old OSes and thus run incompatible programs with modern OS and hardware.

I don't think that's quite what they were asking with their question. Vmware can also be used the other way: Older systems testing forwards. I did use vmware a lot back in the days. Say for example I used Windows XP (Or Vista-x64 later) -> I could run vmware and try out Windows 7 while the host OS was still Windows vista or XP to see what a newer OS is like without actually installing it. Then later in Windows 7 I was also able to run Windows 8, Windows 8.1, and even Windows 10 in a VM to test it out without actually installing it on my system. And even right now in Windows 10 I have a Windows 11 VM I boot occasionally once every few months to see if updates made it usable enough to switch to it. Unfortunately not yet but I am glad to have a vmware license to do things like this.

I understood what he asked perfectly but I agree that my reply might not have been very clear. When I said that you can use programs which are incompatible with the current hardware you use then I was also thinking about doing what you just explained. Thanks for clearing it up.

[Eisdrache]

引用自 🦊Λℚ𝓤ΛƑΛᗯҜᔕ🦊：

引用自 Eisdrache：

The only game I stopped playing was Fortnite, because AntiCheat kicks you out after 5 min playing in Linux. At first, I booted Windows just for Fortnite, but it was too annoying over time, so I found other stuff to play.
Most games run fine in Linux, only some Anti-Cheat games have trouble, if the Devs dont enable Linux-Support for their Anti-Cheat.

https://www.protondb.com/

That's not a correct statement and that website isn't everything. Lots of games that aren't anti-cheat don't work in Linux. Also many games on the ProtonDB website listed as functional don't actually function when we try to run them. I've tried Ubuntu last month. One of my favorite games (Carmageddon: Max Damage) is listed Silver on ProtonDB but it won't even start up at all in linux (even trying all the proton versions). I did get it to run once but it crashed at the main menu and there's nothing to do and no way to fix it. In fact less than half of my entire steam library worked in linux. Many games I have are listed silver or gold on ProtonDB but they don't even run at all in linux.

Linux gaming is *NOT* ready for "prime time" yet as a direct windows replacement.

Maybe your GPU doesn't support Vulkan properly. I don't have that game, so I can't tell in this case, but I and my friends had very little issues (a bit tinkering once in a while, like switching to Proton-GE). All my games work very well. All the Witcher games, the Tomb Raider series, Satisfactory, Raft, Control, etc run fine like on Windows. The only game I had trouble with was Subnautica: Below Zero, which crashed immediatly, but I figured out that it runs fine when disabling Steam Overlay.
So yeah, sometimes a little tinkering is still necessary, but in my opinion better than dealing with Win10/11.

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引用自 Eisdrache：

Maybe your GPU doesn't support Vulkan properly.

It's an RTX 3070 Ti. It should fully support all video rendering API's ever released.

引用自 Eisdrache：

All my games work very well.

I wouldn't say that if I were you. As I already said: I tried Linux and more than half of the games in my steam library won't run and can't be made to run. I wouldn't write statements like that if I were you. I'm pretty sure it's not possible that every single game you own can all run in Linux.

引用自 Eisdrache：

So yeah, sometimes a little tinkering is still necessary

Sitting there in the computer spending hours or multiple days searching in google and steam forums for a hope and prayer of trying to find some way to make one of the games in my steam list start or run and being unable to play it the whole time isn't my idea of fun or even something I would ever enjoy. And then even after all that and we figure it out the developers will release an update and break it again then we can't even run it in Linux until someone in the community figures out how to run it again. That's not my idea of a fun time.

引用自 Eisdrache：

but in my opinion better than dealing with Win10/11.

At least in Windows 10 or Win11 I can click a button and know the games will start and run when I tell them to start. Hunting for ways just to figure out how to get the games in my library to actually start up sounds like a lot of not-fun to me. Maybe you enjoy that but I don't. I want to play games. Not waste away what little time I have each day in a search for how to run a game. A search that may never actually end up with the ability to actually run it. Some games just don't run in Linux and there's no amount of tweaking that can make them run.

[Eagle_of_Fire]

Even with Windows 10, there was definitely quite a lot of examples of games which didn't fire up on the spot when hitting the play button that I can relate to.

Messing around to make a game "playable" by changing options or making sure it run optimally is not optional in PC gaming. If anything it is a rite of passage. Yes, Linux is going to ensure that you do that way more often than simply running everything directly in Windows 10 but using that as an excuse is, to my eyes, pretty hypocritical.

The only exclusion here is anything kernel based is obviously not going to work in Linux out of the box and maybe not at all. And that's almost exclusively multiplayer games, more precisely that "precious" anti-cheat they all use and never actually work.

[Eisdrache]

引用自 🦊Λℚ𝓤ΛƑΛᗯҜᔕ🦊：

引用自 Eisdrache：

All my games work very well.

I wouldn't say that if I were you. As I already said: I tried Linux and more than half of the games in my steam library won't run and can't be made to run. I wouldn't write statements like that if I were you. I'm pretty sure it's not possible that every single game you own can all run in Linux.

I have 74 games in my library and some more outside of Steam running with Lutris, and Fortnite is currently the only game I know which doesn't work because AntiCheat kicks me out.

引用自 🦊Λℚ𝓤ΛƑΛᗯҜᔕ🦊：

引用自 Eisdrache：

So yeah, sometimes a little tinkering is still necessary

Sitting there in the computer spending hours or multiple days searching in google and steam forums for a hope and prayer of trying to find some way to make one of the games in my steam list start or run and being unable to play it the whole time isn't my idea of fun or even something I would ever enjoy. And then even after all that and we figure it out the developers will release an update and break it again then we can't even run it in Linux until someone in the community figures out how to run it again. That's not my idea of a fun time.

Normally solutions from ProtonDB worked instantly. The only time I spent really long and eventually gave up was trying getting the LotR mod for Total War: Warhammer running for a friend. But for some reasons I seem to be very lucky with my games...

[IceFoxX]

引用自 🦊Λℚ𝓤ΛƑΛᗯҜᔕ🦊：

引用自 Eisdrache：

Maybe your GPU doesn't support Vulkan properly.

It's an RTX 3070 Ti. It should fully support all video rendering API's ever released.

引用自 Eisdrache：

All my games work very well.

I wouldn't say that if I were you. As I already said: I tried Linux and more than half of the games in my steam library won't run and can't be made to run. I wouldn't write statements like that if I were you. I'm pretty sure it's not possible that every single game you own can all run in Linux.

引用自 Eisdrache：

So yeah, sometimes a little tinkering is still necessary

Sitting there in the computer spending hours or multiple days searching in google and steam forums for a hope and prayer of trying to find some way to make one of the games in my steam list start or run and being unable to play it the whole time isn't my idea of fun or even something I would ever enjoy. And then even after all that and we figure it out the developers will release an update and break it again then we can't even run it in Linux until someone in the community figures out how to run it again. That's not my idea of a fun time.

引用自 Eisdrache：

but in my opinion better than dealing with Win10/11.

At least in Windows 10 or Win11 I can click a button and know the games will start and run when I tell them to start. Hunting for ways just to figure out how to get the games in my library to actually start up sounds like a lot of not-fun to me. Maybe you enjoy that but I don't. I want to play games. Not waste away what little time I have each day in a search for how to run a game. A search that may never actually end up with the ability to actually run it. Some games just don't run in Linux and there's no amount of tweaking that can make them run.

Valve really did a great job with proton which helpet the wine project too. Anyway theres stuff like protonup-qt, protontricks which can help you.. or compatiblitytools (SteamTinkerLaunch) which will do the config for you ( and download other proton versions automatically ) .

Delete the wineprefix of a specific game and download it again ( so steamreconfigure it ) could fix problems too... if there are misconfigurations etc

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引用自 Eagle_of_Fire：

Even with Windows 10, there was definitely quite a lot of examples of games which didn't fire up on the spot when hitting the play button that I can relate to.

I have been using Windows 10 for many years now. I have not yet found any 1 game in my steam library that won't run on clicking the start button. Or anything I have to spend multiple days screwing around with something just to get it to even start. I've never seen that in Windows. I click a button and games play. It's super easy. I'm not alone either. Quite a lot of people enjoy this for playing games in Windows 10. I won't use (or even waste time with) Linux until it is developed to the point where I can install any windows game from my steam library -> Click the play button -> Game loads and runs. Some day they will have a feature included by default in Linux where it will automatically configure, tweak, or "Do whatever is necessary" in the background for Steam games when we install them to pre-configure the games to "Just run" in Linux. When that happens I will consider switching to Linux. Unfortunately that day is not today. Maybe some day they will get there but Linux still has *A LONG* way to go to be an actual viable alternative to gaming in Windows.

[Eagle_of_Fire]

引用自 🦊Λℚ𝓤ΛƑΛᗯҜᔕ🦊：

引用自 Eagle_of_Fire：

Even with Windows 10, there was definitely quite a lot of examples of games which didn't fire up on the spot when hitting the play button that I can relate to.

I have been using Windows 10 for many years now. I have not yet found any 1 game in my steam library that won't run on clicking the start button. Or anything I have to spend multiple days screwing around with something just to get it to even start. I've never seen that in Windows. I click a button and games play. It's super easy. I'm not alone either. Quite a lot of people enjoy this for playing games in Windows 10. I won't use (or even waste time with) Linux until it is developed to the point where I can install any windows game from my steam library -> Click the play button -> Game loads and runs. Some day they will have a feature included by default in Linux where it will automatically configure, tweak, or "Do whatever is necessary" in the background for Steam games when we install them to pre-configure the games to "Just run" in Linux. When that happens I will consider switching to Linux. Unfortunately that day is not today. Maybe some day they will get there but Linux still has *A LONG* way to go to be an actual viable alternative to gaming in Windows.

You sure are lucky. I have dozains of games I had to fumble with. Sometimes something trivial. I even got my hands on games which would not launch at all and I simply refunded.

You sure are the first person I ever met who never had to do this in their entire life. Congratulation.