Why Chrome?

[Minuit]

Once upon a time, there was a light, handy, simple and efficient application for PC gamers named STEAM. We had everything to spend our leisure time. We could come here and safely chat, discuss, write what we thought about games, indies and even crappy AAA ones. Just a sweet gaming place to roam alone or with friends. We had great sales and the ability to create our "ludotheque" (games library), sort our games, reach epic achievements, or not... And by doing so, we just made all together piracy a far far memory.

But since a couple of years, it's time for "progress": CHROME (isn't that name shining by itself?). It then seemed that gamers didn't deserve to buy and play quietly their games unless they comply to GAFAM.. Endless bugs (not the ones you eat, not yet), useless "updates" every day instead of monday and thursday evening, 700+ MB of our RAM wasted instead of a steady 200, and last but not least, denying access to legit purchases on Win XP/7/8/8.1, Win 10 to come...

Where is the Linux spirit, the freedom and La promesse de l'aube we had many years ago? Why I don't feel safe to purchase anything on Steam anymore?

And what is shining that much in the choice of CHROME Valve made?

[E altar]

................ho sweet summer child
it's not for the "web browser"
it's for the surveilance, censorship and "wrong think" tools/algorithm/bots

tc siege chat enforcement but worse
YT 100% totaly acurate we promise strike system for example

[Cypher Raige]

Where is the Linux spirit you say? Chrome is based off KHTML which is a Linux open-source project.

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Publicado originalmente por Nx Machina:

Publicado originalmente por Minuit:

since a year I bought a new Ubuntu/Win10 PC

So 12.31.2023 is not an issue.

It is at least an issue for my friend who cannot afford a new PC nor switch to Win10, without slowing down even more, already low performances into games. And since I am playing with her very often, it is also my problem.

We are always searching for a solution before that date. Replacing the HDD with a SSD may be a way for her to upgrade to Win10: HDD and Win10 cannot live together when it comes to gaming from the tests I made.

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Publicado originalmente por RiO:

Publicado originalmente por Stiletto:

How strange. That was right around the same time they went from "not supporting Windows XP" to "Steam will not run on Windows XP".

Almost like Steam decided, at that point, to start manipulating their user base to use what they wanted them to use.

It also coincides roughly with Steam's forays into their new direction focusing on social-media like initiatives to improve player retention and when they majorly pivoted and shifted into building web-based UI.

Wouldn't be one bit surprised if that shift coincided with some of the old guard of the Client's developers being let go; in lieu of some much cheaper ReactJS-centric web-developers being hired on to take over.

Which obviously would leave you with less capable people around to work performance magic on anything native code, i.e. anything not web-related. And from what I've seen, also most of the actual web-related JS and CSS stuff is ... well, I hope Valve is paying some of these people to match their expertise, otherwise they're being ripped off. (Valve that is.)

I understand even better now, thanks again Rio.

[Stiletto]

Publicado originalmente por RiO:

It also coincides roughly with Steam's forays into their new direction focusing on social-media like initiatives to improve player retention and when they majorly pivoted and shifted into building web-based UI.

Wouldn't be one bit surprised if that shift coincided with some of the old guard of the Client's developers being let go; in lieu of some much cheaper ReactJS-centric web-developers being hired on to take over.

Which obviously would leave you with less capable people around to work performance magic on anything native code, i.e. anything not web-related. And from what I've seen, also most of the actual web-related JS and CSS stuff is ... well, I hope Valve is paying some of these people to match their expertise, otherwise they're being ripped off. (Valve that is.)

If they're like most other enterprise-scale tech companies, they're hiring lowest bidders from wherever.

[TurtleShroom]

The part that baffles me is that Valve isn't just aping a local copy of "Google Chrome". Apparently, "Google Chrome" is derived from an original source called "Chromium", which is open source. That means that Valve could maintain access for W7 users, but is choosing not to do so.

[Ageon Mystmir]

Publicado originalmente por Minuit:

Where is the Linux spirit, the freedom and La promesse de l'aube we had many years ago? Why I don't feel safe to purchase anything on Steam anymore?

Hence, why we will go to linux now. I have predicted all of it since 2018 and I am sure there are those who knew all of this earlier than me.

[Rollandusa]

Make a win 7 recovery backup-and files....in case you want to jump in the lake...safety first

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Publicado originalmente por TurtleShroom:

The part that baffles me is that Valve isn't just aping a local copy of "Google Chrome". Apparently, "Google Chrome" is derived from an original source called "Chromium", which is open source. That means that Valve could maintain access for W7 users, but is choosing not to do so.

They made the choice of upgrading over a version that end support for Win7/8/8.1 And yes, they could have chosen another version for preventing that. For a time though to be honest. I am not a specialist, I read all this here on the forum and it seems quite factual.

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Publicado originalmente por LordDragonoid:

Publicado originalmente por Minuit:

Where is the Linux spirit, the freedom and La promesse de l'aube we had many years ago? Why I don't feel safe to purchase anything on Steam anymore?

Hence, why we will go to linux now. I have predicted all of it since 2018 and I am sure there are those who knew all of this earlier than me.

I sail on the same boat than you since several months only. I was aware of Linux and interested by it, but as I am playing a lot, I thought there weren't alternative to windows for gaming; and it was the case until some recent time.

Publicado originalmente por Rollandusa:

Make a win 7 recovery backup-and files....in case you want to jump in the lake...safety first

Good advice! Can prevent some big disappointements not related to Linux. You can test before on desktop under windows also, though I didn't try it; I chose the dual boot on my recent PC.

[Crashed]

Publicado originalmente por TurtleShroom:

The part that baffles me is that Valve isn't just aping a local copy of "Google Chrome". Apparently, "Google Chrome" is derived from an original source called "Chromium", which is open source. That means that Valve could maintain access for W7 users, but is choosing not to do so.

If they wanted to fork Chromium, but then they'd be on their own should they want to update it.

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Publicado originalmente por biesoid:

Name a single game launcher that's fast and responsive.

__game__.exe in your game folder or a shortcut on the Desktop

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Publicado originalmente por 💙🐉Siscest Wincest🍒💛:

Publicado originalmente por biesoid:

Name a single game launcher that's fast and responsive.

__game__.exe in your game folder or a shortcut on the Desktop

Yep, no launcher and no Chrome involved in DRM-free game! I would love to see that directly in my Steam library, but meanwhile: https://steam.fandom.com/wiki/List_of_DRM-free_games

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Publicado originalmente por biesoid:

Name a single game launcher that's fast and responsive.

Steam still far more responsive than Epic. No clicking on things and wondering if it recognized the clicks.

[Satoru]

Publicado originalmente por Crashed:

Publicado originalmente por biesoid:

Name a single game launcher that's fast and responsive.

Steam still far more responsive than Epic. No clicking on things and wondering if it recognized the clicks.

Fun fact. If the Epic CDN goes down, because the epic library does not cache your game icons or your library at all, your entire client dies and you cannot view anything in your library. Also because it never caches anything, it constantly downloads your library icons every, single, time, you look at it. Oh it does it for both the list view and the tile view. If you ever minimize the client, anything you loaded previous is gone, and it has to load your library all over again. The Epic client basically can't even load my 410 game library.

the Epic client library is literally like how looking at the "All Games" view in Steam was up until the recent rework. If you have even a moderate amount of games on epic, your library view will chug like hell