Dolphin Emulator

[Buginhead55]

You know if Steam will add this in steam market they will get sue by nintendo. Nintendo is strict about illegal emulator.

[Paratech2008]

Many games sold on Steam provide the ROMs for the games they emulate, I mentioned a few...

[Ogami]

Paratech2008 původně napsal:

Many games sold on Steam provide the ROMs for the games they emulate, I mentioned a few...

Well, if the original copyright holder provides those ROM versions of their games its a bit different then a user using their own ROM copies.
Because lets be real, while its legal to use a ROM version of any game you purchased on a emulator, barely anybody really rips their own copy to use with a emulator.
Which is the only way its legal. Instead they download a copy from the net from some website and that is explicitly not legal again.

[Satoru]

Paratech2008 původně napsal:

What about the games on Steam that include the BIOS like the Neo Pocket Color? They include DRM Free ROMs and BIOS so how are paying customers pirating anything? Ditto with Sega Genesis and Arcade Neo Geo MVS games?

Even the no longer sold Atari Vault has Atari2600 and 5200 ROMs in a zip file.

Sega owns the license to those games and thus they are licensed by themselves to do so. Any more than if Nintendo was to emulate game using the same methodology which is how all their eshop stuff works. They own the IP, they own the hardware.

[Crashed]

Satoru původně napsal:

Paratech2008 původně napsal:

What about the games on Steam that include the BIOS like the Neo Pocket Color? They include DRM Free ROMs and BIOS so how are paying customers pirating anything? Ditto with Sega Genesis and Arcade Neo Geo MVS games?

Even the no longer sold Atari Vault has Atari2600 and 5200 ROMs in a zip file.

Sega owns the license to those games and thus they are licensed by themselves to do so. Any more than if Nintendo was to emulate game using the same methodology. They own the IP, they own the hardware.

I think you are thinking of SNK?

[Satoru]

Crashed původně napsal:

Satoru původně napsal:

Sega owns the license to those games and thus they are licensed by themselves to do so. Any more than if Nintendo was to emulate game using the same methodology. They own the IP, they own the hardware.

I think you are thinking of SNK?

Same thing. SNK owns both the IP as well as the hardware specs for their own platform such as the NeoGeo pocket. Same as Nintendo, Sega etc. as such they are free to use the bios or code base for the stuff they own

[Marteun]

Strawberry {JESUS IS LORD} původně napsal:

in2015 valve always said the discussion of emulation and piracy was not allowed on steam forums so same is said to steam store, not allowed

*yawn

[HistoricKombat]

Technically. Nintendo can still sue but that does not mean they will win. It is a matter if is worth pursuing Nintendo. Chances are the defendant would have to pay court costs with no compensation if they win. Nintendo on the other hand has money to spare, court costs would be practically like pennies to Nintendo. That is why eveyone backs down on DMCAs from Nintendo, it is not worth the money.

[Paratech2008]

Actually Konami and Namco sell Nintendo games on Steam. The Castlevania collection has Gameboy, NES, Super NES, Genesis games emulated. The Namco Museum 1 and 2 are NES Roms. There are NES MegaMan games and well as Super NES, and The Konami arcade hits have NES games.

I could list more publishers selling NES, SNES, GB, GBA, games legally on Steam. Iridion and Iridion 2.

[Spawn of Totoro]

Paratech2008 původně napsal:

Actually Konami and Namco sell Nintendo games on Steam. The Castlevania collection has Gameboy, NES, Super NES, Genesis games emulated. The Namco Museum 1 and 2 are NES Roms. There are NES MegaMan games and well as Super NES, and The Konami arcade hits have NES games.

I could list more publishers selling NES, SNES, GB, GBA, games legally on Steam. Iridion and Iridion 2.

That is their IP. Nintendo doesn't own it. While it may be an considered a ROM and on some kind of emulator, they could easily modify it to run with out code owned by Nintendo. On the flip side, Nintendo has to get rights if they wish to distribute the game as they do not own the IP, only the system it was built to be used on.

There also may be additional clauses in their contracts allowing use of Nintendo's code in latter games.

They may also not be ROMs, but ported over. I've never picked them apart to find out though.

[Buginhead55]

Too late dolphin emulator was on steam Nintendo already remove it I read it about It in the article website news by DMCA.

[Spawn of Totoro]

buginhead55 původně napsal:

Too late dolphin emulator was on steam Nintendo already remove it I read it about It in the article website news by DMCA.

It was remove because Nintendo's found some lines of their proprietary code. It can come back if they remove the code and fine a workaround. They can legally make an emulator, they just can't use proprietary code of the manufacturer to do so.

Someone already linked a video about it in a previous post.

Komarimaru původně napsal:

Not a scare tactic.

https://youtu.be/hsQtv5IvrD8

Dolphin screwed up, that simple.

[Buginhead55]

No you need read in the website google or bing dolphin emulator got banned by Nintendo DMCA they took it down in Steam.

[Spawn of Totoro]

buginhead55 původně napsal:

No you need read in the website google or bing Steam got banned by Nintendo DMCA.

I didn't say they didn't get DMCA'd by Nintendo. I actually agreed that they did.

I stated the reason why Nintendo submitted the DMCA and how the developer of Dolphin can get it back on Steam. They just need to remove the proprietary code and find a work around for said code. Submit it to the judge and they will get an OK to place it back up on Steam and distribute it again.

[Buginhead55]

Nope Nintendo banned dolphin from steam.

[cSg|mc-Hotsauce]

buginhead55 původně napsal:

Nope Nintendo banned dolphin from steam.

No. Nintendo filed a DMCA claim to remove the emulator from all sites where the developer made it available, not just Steam.