What are the lamest things the Steam Client does?

[battlezoby]

I just bought 5 emoticons and now, roughly every 15 minutes it's giving me toast messages, one by one, to inform me that each is now in my inventory. (As if I didn't already know that when I bought them.)

But I bet there's a lot worse, so I was hoping other people might be able able to suggest some "winners".

BTW... the Points Shop itself is also super lame. You can click "Emoticons", but it will should you ones that aren't from game you own.

You can click "My Games", but it'll clear the "Emoticons" search and show you everything...

Worse yet... it shows you everything under "My Games" including the vast majority that I have'nt played for two hours yet and that it won't sell me emoticons for. I think (but not 100% sure) that there's even some games listed as "My games" that I don't even own.

[cSg|mc-Hotsauce]

Messaggio originale di PocketYoda:

The fact that it forces updates to games no matter what...

That is a developer choice to implement.

[PocketYoda]

Messaggio originale di cSg|mc-Hotsauce:

Messaggio originale di PocketYoda:

The fact that it forces updates to games no matter what...

That is a developer choice to implement.

:summercat2023:

Its a Steam thing it has been for years.. the forced updates happened around 2016 i can't remember exactly in 2014 we could opt out by game..

[Eagle_of_Fire]

You can set every game you own to only update when you launch it. Which allow you to play older version of games in offline mode or keep control of when Steam update anything.

Complaining about Steam updating everything to the latest version by default is like saying that you think cars are lame because they use fuel to run. If you don't know about it then you should not use it.

[Satoru]

Messaggio originale di Tito Shivan:

Messaggio originale di Satoru:

Yes basically throw out some nonsense and then somehow it’s me who has to explain your nonsense?

IIRC in the long missing post there was an argumentation of Steam partnering with Perfect World in China basically making them not GDPR compliant by considering Steam is 'operating' in Chinese territory.

Then there was something about the Steam client installing something during setup, can't remember what and something about it's large memory usage.

This doesn't make sense because only Steam China works that way because that is the only client where that is a thing.

Which again has nothign to do with the GDPR and regardless that doesnt explain in any way why Steam Cloud, a feature that syncs files, is magically not GDPR compliant because again storing data is not a GDPR violation.

[Satoru]

Messaggio originale di Chalupabaras:

Steam's algorithm doesn't like when I go Big Brain during tech discussions with you, Tito. Which kinda sucks, because you're an excellent Devil's Advocate when it comes to troubleshooting these sorts of issues. So here's the TL;DR.

"Please refer all inquiries regarding Valve's current investigation of Microsoft's recent server breach, and/or any potential impact on Valve's Steam Client services provided by Microsoft, to Steam Support."

So now apparently Steam is responsible for issues because Microsoft had a server breach? Really this is the 'not gdpr' compliant part? What are you even babbling about. Steam doesn't even use Azure for any of their back end. All their cloud stuff is on Akamai.

I am EXTREMELY well versed in all security breaches especially ones from Microsoft. So GO AHEAD test me. EXPLAIN to me in any way what you are prattling on about. You'd better be linking to a CVE. And don't tell me this is an 'undisclosed' CVE. Because rest assured I have been in meetings about undisclosed CVEs. I have been part of discussions about secret windows patches. TRY ME

My hands are now officially tied on this one. All I know is that Satoru will get his answer soon, but he's gonna need so much popcorn that he oughta invest in Orville Reddenbacher.

Your 'hands are not tied' you are simply trotting out utter nonsense, and then are conveniently deciding to not explain anything. Sorry if calling you out on your lies is a problem for your.

[AustrAlien2010]

If you modify its files, it will restore most of them to default when restarting it. Even when you make the files read only.

[NakiBest]

Messaggio originale di AustrAlien2010:

If you modify its files, it will restore most of them to default when restarting it. Even when you make the file write only.

This is proper behaviour and not lame in any way.

Go and hack something else, not Steam.

[JVC]

Messaggio originale di Chalupabaras:

Messaggio originale di Tito Shivan:

How's Steam Cloud not GDPR compliant?

I wouldn't know, I'm not from Europe or China. You might wanna ask Satoru.

You make the claim and have nothing to back it up. That's pretty lame.

GDPR protects your personal information as in your name, photos of you, your place of residence, your employment history, your medical history, your political views, your sexual orientation, yout financial information. Stuff like that than people can use to impersonate you, harrass you or similar. And of course if you already placed that information in the public, that's your choice and you've chosen not to have that bit of information protected.

A computer knowing that you reached level 30 in a game is completely irrelevant.

[Satoru]

Messaggio originale di Chalupabaras:

Messaggio originale di Satoru:

So now apparently Steam is responsible for issues because Microsoft had a server breach? Really this is the 'not gdpr' compliant part? What are you even babbling about. Steam doesn't even use Azure for any of their back end. All their cloud stuff is on Akamai.

I am EXTREMELY well versed in all security breaches especially ones from Microsoft. So GO AHEAD test me. EXPLAIN to me in any way what you are prattling on about. You'd better be linking to a CVE. And don't tell me this is an 'undisclosed' CVE. Because rest assured I have been in meetings about undisclosed CVEs. I have been part of discussions about secret windows patches. TRY ME



Your 'hands are not tied' you are simply trotting out utter nonsense, and then are conveniently deciding to not explain anything. Sorry if calling you out on your lies is a problem for your.

No, my hands really are tied at this point, Satoru. I have no doubt that you're as knowledgeable about disclosed active CVEs as you've indicated, but apparently not as much when it comes to OIG, CISA and DHS protocols.

Best I can do is the screenshots from the Steam Support ticket, but I don't think you're gonna like the response they gave me.

(Edit: dyslexia)

So basically you’re allowed to lie and then magically claim “your hands are tied” the nano second anyone calls you out on your nonsense. If you’re going to lie try to make one up that isn’t obviously falsifiable

And if you magically think I’m not aware of OIG or the DHS you are sorely mistaken. Again if you’re going to lie try harder.

[AustrAlien2010]

The discussion is asking for negative feedback, so there is no other way to reply to this topic, other than complaining about the client, by saying something negative about it.

For example, the client might lose its music album images in the library, if the user clears its web browser data while offline. This means the user might see the album tiles represented as "error 404 file not found" images, unless it reconnects. Which is a shame, because if users do not have internet, they cannot reconnect, and they will be looking at those 404 errors in their music libraries, until they reconnect.

This is a problem because users don't intuitively know that cleaing web browser data might also delete album tiles from their libraries. They can't possibly know that based on the information the client gives them, images for library tiles might turn into 404 errors if they delete web browser data.

[battlezoby]

Messaggio originale di Piston Smashed™:

Does it sound like I'm talking about cards and emoticons or that the OP I was replying to was?? Cards and emoticons are worth pennies but when you consider items like CSGO skins and others then those pennies become thousands of quids worth.

I'm sorry, I neither play CS:GO, not should I.

Are any of these things PHYSICAL ITEMS? (I don't know.)

If not, doesn't Value itself own CS:GO?

Isn't any in game item just a stupid software thing that Steam an replace and replicate at no cost to themselves whatsoever?

Again, I don't play CS:GO, so I'm wondering if I'm wrong.

Actually, WHY would anyone pay real non-trivial amounts of money for a game obviously full of A--B-ts and the types of people who use them? I really don't get it.

Furthermore, if Value is creating items with such a high market value, then... well... sorry... I'm not going to bother to go on unless/until I get answer to the above first.

[battlezoby]

Messaggio originale di Eagle_of_Fire:

You can set every game you own to only update when you launch it. Which allow you to play older version of games in offline mode or keep control of when Steam update anything.

Complaining about Steam updating everything to the latest version by default is like saying that you think cars are lame because they use fuel to run. If you don't know about it then you should not use it.

Is there a way to tell Steam to have your games NOT auto-update by default? I mean to have all the new games set to not update as they are installed/bought, and not have to do it one by one?

I don't think there is, and there not being a global setting to do that (I don't think there is) is exceedingly lame.

[Eagle_of_Fire]

Messaggio originale di battlezoby:

Messaggio originale di Eagle_of_Fire:

You can set every game you own to only update when you launch it. Which allow you to play older version of games in offline mode or keep control of when Steam update anything.

Complaining about Steam updating everything to the latest version by default is like saying that you think cars are lame because they use fuel to run. If you don't know about it then you should not use it.

Is there a way to tell Steam to have your games NOT auto-update by default? I mean to have all the new games set to not update as they are installed/bought, and not have to do it one by one?

I don't think there is, and there not being a global setting to do that (I don't think there is) is exceedingly lame.

Sadly the answer to this is no. You have to set it up every single time you install the game. Yes, if you uninstall and re-install later on, you have to do that yet again...

But the good news is that it is only a few clicks away.

[Tito Shivan]

Messaggio originale di WolfEisberg:

- Steam forces updates on games, even to the point of disabling offline mode for games if the update is pending for the game

Steam's primary function was to serve as a update client for Valve games. Long before it even sold games. Keeeping games to-date It's been in their core philosophy since day one.

Messaggio originale di Chalupabaras:

It's also possible to log into your account without actually logging into your account

Please, elaborate. I don't think I follow you here.