What do you think about new steam?

[no way]

I love new steam theme. I'm just curious about your thoughts.

[stauchd]

I hate this update so very very much. It makes steam crash constantly, I get stuck in windows with no way to back out, cannot go back a page in the store without exiting it completely, loads slow, please dear god put it back the way it was.

[Chaotic-Reaper_]

this steam update is total trash, why do i have to keep clearing download data, web browser data, and router data just to use steam? and thats every 15 minutes

[crunchyfrog]

Escrito originalmente por Kurdain:

Discovery queue no longer works after the update.
Once in a while it'd get stuck, particularly on a demo/prologue that made it into your queue somehow. You could ignore that title, reload the queue and continue.
Not anymore.
EVERY queue is broken until I close and make sure Steam is end task in task manager.
You can open the first title in the queue and after that the only button available is to view your queue, there is no next title and ignoring the title you are on doesn't fix it as the very next title in the queue will do the same thing.

DQ has always been semi-broken, glitchy as best, and for some reason Valve cannot fathom a manual clear/reset button on the queue page. I have tons of title ignored for no reason other than trying to get the queue to work over the years. How is that good for business and how did you manage to make it worse?

Most likely something with your installation is corrupt as that tends to happen from time to time.

You can first try clearing your web cache and restarting steam. If that doesn't work, then there's other things you can try.

[Kurdain]

Escrito originalmente por crunchyfrog:

Escrito originalmente por Kurdain:

Discovery queue no longer works after the update.
Once in a while it'd get stuck, particularly on a demo/prologue that made it into your queue somehow. You could ignore that title, reload the queue and continue.
Not anymore.
EVERY queue is broken until I close and make sure Steam is end task in task manager.
You can open the first title in the queue and after that the only button available is to view your queue, there is no next title and ignoring the title you are on doesn't fix it as the very next title in the queue will do the same thing.

DQ has always been semi-broken, glitchy as best, and for some reason Valve cannot fathom a manual clear/reset button on the queue page. I have tons of title ignored for no reason other than trying to get the queue to work over the years. How is that good for business and how did you manage to make it worse?

Most likely something with your installation is corrupt as that tends to happen from time to time.

You can first try clearing your web cache and restarting steam. If that doesn't work, then there's other things you can try.

Oh yes, as mentioned in my original post I MUST close Steam and reopen everyday to get the queue to work. Clearing cache and web cache does nothing.

It's an issue going back at least 10 years and this last update made it worse. It got worse the very day the update occurred, seems they'd try to make it better not worse. Far more interested in functionality than looks.

As far reinstalling I am tired of that. It's been an issue across multiple versions of windows for over a decade on at least a half dozen different platforms. Which reminds me I guess I should go and see if it is broken on my laptop as well, which is common.

[Jenshae]

Escrito originalmente por NakiBest:

Yes, some of the other features may be broken, but just the bigger text in menus is a sufficient and welcome change. I am sure the bugs will be worked out as more weeks pass. :)

If you were that blind, you had Big Picture mode.
Even on my 4K TV from across the room, I do not know why you are so happy about this change. It was still fine and you could still scale your UI in the old version.

[NakiBest]

I do not use or care about Big Picture mode here. :)

[crunchyfrog]

Escrito originalmente por Kurdain:

Escrito originalmente por crunchyfrog:

Most likely something with your installation is corrupt as that tends to happen from time to time.

You can first try clearing your web cache and restarting steam. If that doesn't work, then there's other things you can try.

Oh yes, as mentioned in my original post I MUST close Steam and reopen everyday to get the queue to work. Clearing cache and web cache does nothing.

It's an issue going back at least 10 years and this last update made it worse. It got worse the very day the update occurred, seems they'd try to make it better not worse. Far more interested in functionality than looks.

As far reinstalling I am tired of that. It's been an issue across multiple versions of windows for over a decade on at least a half dozen different platforms. Which reminds me I guess I should go and see if it is broken on my laptop as well, which is common.

Then in that case, it sounds like a you problem or something else you have on your system interfering. It has NOT been a problem for over 10 years.

So here's what to try next.

Start Windows in Safe Mode with networking. And ONLY run Steam to see if things improve.

If they do then it demonstrates something on your system causing the issue. Likely culprits will be if you use Chrome and have any plugins installed (remove them and re-enable one by one until you find the culprit) or some other cookie cleaning software, for example.

If it were a proble going on ten years for everyone, then everyone would be experiencing it as it's a net issue.

[eram]

best client update in years

[Jenshae]

Escrito originalmente por NakiBest:

I do not use or care about Big Picture mode here. :)

Settings -> Interface -> Enlarge text and icons based on monitor size (requires restart).
Settings -> Library -> Display size for Library user interface elements.
Steam implemented DPI scaling.

• Did you disable DPI scaling?
  
• When did you last have your eyes tested and glasses updated?
  
• Why are you thrilled to get grandma's paper weight when we are all upset that she is dead?

Bonus ones for everyone else:
Settings -> Interface -> Set Taskbar Preferences
Settings -> Interface -> Run Steam when my computer starts

[muffins]

Steam overlay keeps turning itself back on. I turn it off so my games run better.

[Bllasae]

One thing I will say that I like about it is that I don't have to maximize it every time it opens, one thing I don't like about it is that I have to maximize it every time a game closes because the margins of Steam are outside of the resolution of my monitor when a game closes for some reason.

[NakiBest]

Escrito originalmente por Jenshae:

Escrito originalmente por NakiBest:

I do not use or care about Big Picture mode here. :)

Settings -> Interface -> Enlarge text and icons based on monitor size (requires restart).
Settings -> Library -> Display size for Library user interface elements.
Steam implemented DPI scaling.

• Did you disable DPI scaling?
  
• When did you last have your eyes tested and glasses updated?
  
• Why are you thrilled to get grandma's paper weight when we are all upset that she is dead?

Bonus ones for everyone else:
Settings -> Interface -> Set Taskbar Preferences
Settings -> Interface -> Run Steam when my computer starts

I did not change anything as far as I know. But will check.

You are clearly mistaken, I knew there would be doubting persons, so I took screenshots of the old + new menus, where the change is easily seen. :)

The new font text size in menus is clearly bigger, and I do NOT need any glasses or perfect eyesight to see that. Everyone can see it and benefit from it!

If you do not believe me, I can attach the screenshots I took. :)

EDIT: NO setting named "Enlarge text and icons based on monitor size (requires restart)" here? I do see one named - "Scale text and icons to matchi monitor settings" ahd that is enabled/ON. Note this setting very likely does NOT affect menu size I am talking about!!
It will affect only the text in the mean Steam window, and not menus.

So, clearly you are misunderstanding what I wrote.

In Library section, mine is set to Automatic.
Again, I very much doubt this affects menus at all!
This only affects Library icons/Steam window, NOT menus.
I do not have any issue with Library screens. This is fine and has always been. :)

So, clearly you are again misunderstanding this.


What "grandma" and what "paperweight" bull crap are you talking about!?
Bigger menus are objectively BETTER! And having a bigger font text size is not something from years ago, it is modern & useful NOW.

Please note some other apps/programs actually allow for much bigger menus, bigger than the new ones in Steam.
(Some other apps even scale everything when you change the setting but for Steam this is likely not a good approach.)

Down the road, being able to choose Steam menu sizes between Smaller, Small, Normal, Big, Bigger/etc would be nice.
But even without that, new menu font text size is clearly better. :)

[Jenshae]

Escrito originalmente por NakiBest:

... Bigger menus are objectively BETTER! ...

It is aesthetics, which is subjective. You are wrong.

The new menus are large, clumsy and garish.

The paper weight you are holding onto is a copper turd. Most of the application is dead and broken.

[NakiBest]

Okay, for me they are better due to the bigger size. :)

I would not call smaller/bigger text size "an aesthetic" difference, as it is not.
If there is some kind of issue with the new text font antialiasing/blurriness on certain configurations, then at least I am not seeing any such blurriness over here.. :)

The bigger spacing out between menu items is indeed an aesthetic difference, I agree with you on that part of the menu changes.

Anyway, if Steam keeps the new menus then you are wrong. :)

[Jenshae]

Escrito originalmente por NakiBest:

Anyway, if Steam keeps the new menus then you are wrong. :)

If Steam keeps the new menus, they subjectively chose something that is large, clumsy and garish.
That does not make me wrong.

It means that whom ever is responsible for these screw ups; is probably some weird friend or family appointment:

Escrito originalmente por fenrif:

If Gaben wants to give his cousins kid a job doing busywork then that's fine. Let him redesign the UI of whatever.

Just give us an option to use the old one.
I'm all for giving mentally-challenged people something to keep them out of trouble, but why inflict it on everyone else?

Before anyone gives me any grief... You find a better explanation for these changes than retardation. Go on. You can't.

... with an additional failure against them.


By the way, I am still fixing and validating my libraries after this colossal screw up and there are probably others with multiple drives for their games, that don't know how to use symbolic linking to hack their way around this rubbish.

Valve has failed in their most important objective; ensuring that their customers can play their games with less hassle than buying them from GoG.

Hello The Sims 3 (2009 DVD edition) and the original CD Gold Edition Morrowind that I can play on OpenMW with mods.
Thank you for being there and still great when Steam FAILS!