"JUST UPGRADE" - except Windows 8 and beyond do not support firewire.

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Imagine you bought an expensive device that runs on firewire - for example a high end audio interface. If you "just upgrade" to windows 8 or beyond, you will come into problems with firewire....hell Windows 11 does not even support firewire........ because Microsoft has basically become the laziest most contemptful software company under the sun. Too lazy and pathetic to kick out a basic hardware driver

Because its all too hard for steam to just greenlight the DRM checks to let people play the games on the software and hardware they originally bought it on, you're now FORCED to run multiple operating systems and or buy new hardware ....

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We live in the age of peak anti-consumerism.

[Muppet among Puppets]

Would a pci e firewire adapter card solve your problem?

[feytharn]

Windows 11 supports firewire 1394, Win 10 usually works well with the legacy drivers.

[Muppet among Puppets]

feytharn původně napsal:

Windows 11 supports firewire 1394, Win 10 usually works well with the legacy drivers.

In win 11 you should not use the legacy drivers, it comes with own drivers.

[bidulless]

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We live in the age of peak anti-consumerism.

Hello
Sadly the consumerism is what drive us into what we are now ... so it's not the solution of the problem, but the problem itself.

[Muppet among Puppets]

But is there even this problem?
There are cards, there are drivers. So what is the problem?

[.EteRnal.]

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Imagine you bought an expensive device that runs on firewire - for example a high end audio interface. If you "just upgrade" to windows 8 or beyond, you will come into problems with firewire....hell Windows 11 does not even support firewire.

Except Windows 11 does support it.

[Crazy Tiger]

It's quite amazing how people literally invent problems that aren't there to create a "I don't like it", apologies "anti-consumer", narrative.

[C²C^Guyver |NZB|]

Crazy Tiger původně napsal:

It's quite amazing how people literally invent problems that aren't there to create a "I don't like it", apologies "anti-consumer", narrative.

I mean seriously. I started using Steam when I was on Windows Me, I guess that means Valve should support it.

The mental gymnastics that goes on in most of these windows 7 and 8 threads is what is amazing to me as well.

[Komarimaru]

And what devices still use Firewire these days? It died with Apple, even Sony couldn't revive it, and it's slower than USB 3.0/C.

[Muppet among Puppets]

Komarimaru původně napsal:

And what devices still use Firewire these days? It died with Apple, even Sony couldn't revive it, and it's slower than USB 3.0/C.

I think since it is a solve able problem, we wont get any more insights on that.

[Azure Fang]

Windows 7 technically didn't even support Firewire, as the rewritten bus driver was about as broken as non-integrated Bluetooth support has been since, well, Windows 7. To get Firewire to work on Win7, you need to download community-customized drivers or rewrite them yourself.

Quit grasping.

[Komarimaru]

Muppet among Puppets původně napsal:

Komarimaru původně napsal:

And what devices still use Firewire these days? It died with Apple, even Sony couldn't revive it, and it's slower than USB 3.0/C.

I think since it is a solve able problem, we wont get any more insights on that.

I just think it odd to even bring it up, it died in 2013, before Windows 10 even came out.

[Muppet among Puppets]

Komarimaru původně napsal:

Muppet among Puppets původně napsal:

I think since it is a solve able problem, we wont get any more insights on that.

I just think it odd to even bring it up, it died in 2013, before Windows 10 even came out.

What i find odd, i never heard of it, and found solutions in minutes.

[C²C^Guyver |NZB|]

Azure Fang původně napsal:

Windows 7 technically didn't even support Firewire, as the rewritten bus driver was about as broken as non-integrated Bluetooth support has been since, well, Windows 7. To get Firewire to work on Win7, you need to download community-customized drivers or rewrite them yourself.

Quit grasping.

None of their reasonings hold water because some of them even after naming all the reasons why they can't upgrade to Windows 10 or 11, they finally come out and say that the reason is, is they just don't want too.