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Snake with Guns 4/jul./2023 às 10:18
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Save Win 7 OR RICK ROLL UR SELF <3
YA'LL GOT RICK ROLLED LMAO :3
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innocent angle 18/dez./2023 às 5:26 
If you still use Windows 7 you can't afford a lawyer
SqueakyTweaky 18/dez./2023 às 5:38 
Escrito originalmente por innocent angle:
If you still use Windows 7 you can't afford a lawyer
Not only that they would also probably refuse to pay for extended support if given the opportunity and expect it to be still free since they bought the product a decade ago.
Weegeepie 18/dez./2023 às 6:34 
Escrito originalmente por Mad Scientist:
Never happened when the previous OS's were no longer supported especially also after having a notice for a generous amount of time.

Win7 x32 is 0.08% of surveyed users.
Win7 x64 is 1.16% of surveyed users.

Both numbers are declining. Win10 isn't that bad, you can just turn off telemetry and some services without any issues. Do note other stores & services are also getting rid of Win7/Win8 support as well.

There is nothing to sue over. When you get pc gaming as a hobby especially with a DRM always-update platform; you can expect older OS's to drop off.
>you can just turn off telemetry

no you ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ can't lmfao
Escrito originalmente por The Presence:
Let me know how that works out.
Let me know too
flobefall 18/dez./2023 às 8:38 
Escrito originalmente por xBCxRangers:
Given Valves latest clarification, i agree there is no case atp. There may be, and others should speak to their own attorneys, not us.
I already asked you like six months ago:
Which law does Valve break to justify a case?
crunchyfrog 18/dez./2023 às 8:53 
Escrito originalmente por D. Flame:
Escrito originalmente por crunchyfrog:
I;ve been gaming since the 19709s
Dang, we got a time traveler here.
Whoopsie.
crunchyfrog 18/dez./2023 às 8:55 
Escrito originalmente por xBCxRangers:
Escrito originalmente por BionicSeaSerpent:
if the attorney says there is nothing wrong with it legally. then there is nothing wrong. no legal action would result in any "Justice" in favor of a Windows 7 user. they can access their games fine, but they also are on an extremely outdated OS which you never wanna be on in the first place.should legally be forced to switch to Linux forever if they actually cry to a court about it

Given Valves latest clarification, i agree there is no case atp. There may be, and others should speak to their own attorneys, not us.
Again not a chance. Not even close.

The terms are quite clear as is the case that you don't understand them.


Let me try to make this abundantly clear - you AGREE to the terms of usage that clearly state it's a fluid service that changes over time. It ends right there.
xBCxRangers 18/dez./2023 às 9:15 
Escrito originalmente por crunchyfrog:
Escrito originalmente por xBCxRangers:

Given Valves latest clarification, i agree there is no case atp. There may be, and others should speak to their own attorneys, not us.
Again not a chance. Not even close.

The terms are quite clear as is the case that you don't understand them.


Let me try to make this abundantly clear - you AGREE to the terms of usage that clearly state it's a fluid service that changes over time. It ends right there.

Well idk what's going on with this latest class action as far as the attorneys are concerned, but no matter what those gamers "signed", the class action went forward nonetheless, even though the terms they signed, said they would not.

In others words, laws in your jurisdiction, outweigh the TOS. The TOS are mainly a tool, in effort to protect the company. It does not mean however, they cannot or will not be sued despite them.

Anyhow, anyone who has half a brain, know not to listen to you, me, or any forum lawyer. Talk to a real one.
Thermal Lance 18/dez./2023 às 9:16 
Escrito originalmente por flobefall:
Escrito originalmente por xBCxRangers:
Given Valves latest clarification, i agree there is no case atp. There may be, and others should speak to their own attorneys, not us.
I already asked you like six months ago:
Which law does Valve break to justify a case?
I just hope somebody gets dumb enough to sue Valve over this. I really hope that happen. Would be an extremely wild popcorn material to enjoy.
Escrito originalmente por xBCxRangers:
Escrito originalmente por crunchyfrog:
Again not a chance. Not even close.

The terms are quite clear as is the case that you don't understand them.


Let me try to make this abundantly clear - you AGREE to the terms of usage that clearly state it's a fluid service that changes over time. It ends right there.

Well idk what's going on with this latest class action as far as the attorneys are concerned, but no matter what those gamers "signed", the class action went forward nonetheless, even though the terms they signed, said they would not.

In others words, laws in your jurisdiction, outweigh the TOS. The TOS are mainly a tool, in effort to protect the company. It does not mean however, they cannot or will not be sued despite them.

Anyhow, anyone who has half a brain, know not to listen to you, me, or any forum lawyer. Talk to a real one.
There is no class action.

There's the mass arbitration which was exposed to only being used as an investment opportunity for the firm and not a legit complaint on behalf of those who signed. Which, as you were told before, is illegal in many states.
crunchyfrog 18/dez./2023 às 9:21 
Escrito originalmente por xBCxRangers:
Escrito originalmente por crunchyfrog:
Again not a chance. Not even close.

The terms are quite clear as is the case that you don't understand them.


Let me try to make this abundantly clear - you AGREE to the terms of usage that clearly state it's a fluid service that changes over time. It ends right there.

Well idk what's going on with this latest class action as far as the attorneys are concerned, but no matter what those gamers "signed", the class action went forward nonetheless, even though the terms they signed, said they would not.

In others words, laws in your jurisdiction, outweigh the TOS. The TOS are mainly a tool, in effort to protect the company. It does not mean however, they cannot or will not be sued despite them.

Anyhow, anyone who has half a brain, know not to listen to you, me, or any forum lawyer. Talk to a real one.

You're misunderstanding. Going forward in a case means absolutely nothing.

There's a saying in law enforcement I've heard - "you can indict a ham sandwich".

Granted that's a criminal case, but the point is you can sue anyone for anything and get it to move forward.

But that's nothing. It's the winning of the case that's the point, and there's nothing here.

And your snippiness about onlein lawyers - which I've never claimed to be - doesn't mean anything. Claims ALWAYS stand on their own merits, no matter who says them.
xBCxRangers 18/dez./2023 às 9:22 
Escrito originalmente por SlowMango:
Escrito originalmente por xBCxRangers:

Well idk what's going on with this latest class action as far as the attorneys are concerned, but no matter what those gamers "signed", the class action went forward nonetheless, even though the terms they signed, said they would not.

In others words, laws in your jurisdiction, outweigh the TOS. The TOS are mainly a tool, in effort to protect the company. It does not mean however, they cannot or will not be sued despite them.

Anyhow, anyone who has half a brain, know not to listen to you, me, or any forum lawyer. Talk to a real one.
There is no class action.

There's the mass arbitration which was exposed to only being used as an investment opportunity for the firm and not a legit complaint on behalf of those who signed. Which, as you were told before, is illegal in many states.

A mass arbitration. Well that's a nice way to put it. Needless to say they're being sued on a mass scale. Again, idk about the attorneys, but the client as far as i know has a case.
N3tRunn3r 18/dez./2023 às 9:23 
Escrito originalmente por Weegeepie:
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>you can just turn off telemetry

no you ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ can't lmfao

The Enterprise and Education editions of Windows 11 include a setting to completely block ANY telemetry stuff. With a trick you can do this on Home and Professional editions too.

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/privacy/configure-windows-diagnostic-data-in-your-organization

And as often told already, Windows 7, 8, 10 and 11 COMBINED together is nothing about 'telemetry gathering' than Steam itself!!

https://help.steampowered.com/en/accountdata

Steam stores EVERYTHING even deleted files, data and items, since 2009 !!

People been afraid of using WIndows 7 and even Windows 10 or Windows 11?

You should be scared of what Steam alone does.. let alone your Smartphone devices..

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Escrito originalmente por xBCxRangers:
Escrito originalmente por SlowMango:
There is no class action.

There's the mass arbitration which was exposed to only being used as an investment opportunity for the firm and not a legit complaint on behalf of those who signed. Which, as you were told before, is illegal in many states.

A mass arbitration. Well that's a nice way to put it. Needless to say they're being sued on a mass scale. Again, idk about the attorneys, but the client as far as i know has a case.
They don't.

You seem to be purposefully ignoring that the mass arbitration was exposed to being a frivolous lawsuit that was just an investment opportunity for the firm.

If you're talking about the Wolfire case, that also isn't a class action but a singular developer.
xBCxRangers 18/dez./2023 às 9:27 
Escrito originalmente por crunchyfrog:
Escrito originalmente por xBCxRangers:

Well idk what's going on with this latest class action as far as the attorneys are concerned, but no matter what those gamers "signed", the class action went forward nonetheless, even though the terms they signed, said they would not.

In others words, laws in your jurisdiction, outweigh the TOS. The TOS are mainly a tool, in effort to protect the company. It does not mean however, they cannot or will not be sued despite them.

Anyhow, anyone who has half a brain, know not to listen to you, me, or any forum lawyer. Talk to a real one.

You're misunderstanding. Going forward in a case means absolutely nothing.

There's a saying in law enforcement I've heard - "you can indict a ham sandwich".

Granted that's a criminal case, but the point is you can sue anyone for anything and get it to move forward.

But that's nothing. It's the winning of the case that's the point, and there's nothing here.

And your snippiness about onlein lawyers - which I've never claimed to be - doesn't mean anything. Claims ALWAYS stand on their own merits, no matter who says them.

Well very little times, do these cases see the light of day. Many times, they're settled, before it even hits the docket. Again, as i explained, in this particular matter, i do not think there is a case, just in how Valve is having this matter happen.

You can't have a class action, if you didn't lose anything.

And to the extent post Jan 1, one game may go for one person, another for another, or none at all, i can;t see how you would have a case given that.

Though i do think Mr Newell wanted to "prevent" a misunderstanding, that would affect more than a million gamers, prompting him to clarify the original statement, but that's just a guess.
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