Stop demos from getting their own pages.

[Verisar]

title, demos shouldnt be bloating the store, yes there is already a bunch of ♥♥♥♥♥ on the store but that can be solved by blocking, i think we need to send a message to publishers that do this and block them via steams own blocking abilities,


WOULD BE ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ GREAT NOT TO SEE BLOCKED ITEMS IN THE STORE MKAY?!?!

[Crazy Tiger]

I have no issue with demos, or prologues, having own store pages. Not sure why I should block a publisher for that.

[Verisar]

Originally posted by Crazy Tiger:

I have no issue with demos, or prologues, having own store pages. Not sure why I should block a publisher for that.

why does a demo need its own page all it is is less then the base game with limitations, it makes more sense for it to be where its been for years and people can play said demo, wishlist the main game and they havnt gone anywhere. its like magic that people are now trying to reinvent the wheel.

[AmsterdamHeavy]

Someone correct me if Im wrong, but doesnt everything added to the store require an app id that means it gets its own store page? Not counting removed from store games of course.

[Spawn of Totoro]

Originally posted by AmsterdamHeavy:

Someone correct me if Im wrong, but doesnt everything added to the store require an app id that means it gets its own store page? Not counting removed from store games of course.

Yep.

Though they say "demo" in the OP, they don't seem to be referring to actual demos as those are a box on the game's store page.

The ones that get their own page are the "prequel" games that are their own separate entity, yet tie into the future game they are for. They also get their own app id and the developer pays for said id as well, just as with a regular game release.

For example:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2182110/Citizens_Far_Lands__Prologue/

Could be seen as a demo, but is also an introduction to the future game they are working on. A stand alone product.

Personally I see it as it's own game and not a demo, so don't see the issue the way the OP does, but that is just me and my own opinion.

[Verisar]

Originally posted by Spawn of Totoro:

Originally posted by AmsterdamHeavy:

Someone correct me if Im wrong, but doesnt everything added to the store require an app id that means it gets its own store page? Not counting removed from store games of course.

Yep.

Though they say "demo" in the OP, they don't seem to be referring to actual demos as those are a box on the game's store page.

The ones that get their own page are the "prequel" games that are their own separate entity, yet tie into the future game they are for. They also get their own app id and the developer pays for said id as well, just as with a regular game release.

For example:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2182110/Citizens_Far_Lands__Prologue/

Could be seen as a demo, but is also an introduction to the future game they are working on. A stand alone product.

Personally I see it as it's own game and not a demo, so don't see the issue the way the OP does, but that is just me and my own opinion.

So an early access game then?

Idk i feel that if its a stipped down version of a game to showcase what you might get out of it and what the game has to offer is nothing but a demo.

now i know why publishers are doing this, they are trying to get more people to buy the game because releasing a game on steam with a demo gets alot less due to maybe people forgetting that its upcoming or something to that, so they make it a "Prologue" which bloats the store and gets them more sales.

[cSg|mc-Hotsauce]

Prologue. I see. That looks fine.

[Spawn of Totoro]

Originally posted by Verisar:

So an early access game then?

Idk i feel that if its a stipped down version of a game to showcase what you might get out of it and what the game has to offer is nothing but a demo.

now i know why publishers are doing this, they are trying to get more people to buy the game because releasing a game on steam with a demo gets alot less due to maybe people forgetting that its upcoming or something to that, so they make it a "Prologue" which bloats the store and gets them more sales.

As far as I have experienced, a Prologue game has a part of the story that can still be independent of the regular game. It isn't stripped down, but would lack features found in the mid to end game of the next installment.

They are more then a demo and are their own entity, based in that world. Just not nearly as long. I do prefer them to a watered down demo that is only there to showcase features and game play.

In the end, it is mostly preference and one's own point of view, but due to commercial aspect you mentioned, I don't see them really going anywhere as they are still treated as a full game by Valve.

[Verisar]

Demos should be under games not called prologues no?

Best example is "Beer Factory - Prologue"

They ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ literally call it a demo on the info page, why is this being allowed it only helps publishers not us.

[cSg|mc-Hotsauce]

Originally posted by Verisar:

Best example is "Beer Factory - Prologue"

They ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ literally call it a demo on the info page, why is this being allowed it only helps publishers not us.

Didn't you have this thread?

https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/10/3791506516119958931/

[Nx Machina]

A prologue is a demo as it is a taster of what the game is about.

[Mad Scientist]

Originally posted by cSg|mc-Hotsauce:

Originally posted by Verisar:

Best example is "Beer Factory - Prologue"

They ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ literally call it a demo on the info page, why is this being allowed it only helps publishers not us.

Didn't you have this thread?

https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/10/3791506516119958931/

:qr:

I knew this looked familiar.

But yeah, demo can be a thing, prologue can be an introduction to what the upcoming game will be, often before or right before the game.

So, they can be different store pages which entirely still makes sense.

[Start_Running]

Originally posted by Verisar:

Best example is "Beer Factory - Prologue"

They ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ literally call it a demo on the info page, why is this being allowed it only helps publishers not us.

That's up to the devs. There is a difference between a demo and a prologue, namely that a prologue will usually tie into the narrative of the game itself. The Demo can be anything from an icsolated level from the game, a specially crafted level that never appears in the game, or the time compressed vertical slice.

So Yeah. it's yup to the devs what they want to call their stuff.

[Verisar]

Originally posted by Start_Running:

Originally posted by Verisar:

Best example is "Beer Factory - Prologue"

They ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ literally call it a demo on the info page, why is this being allowed it only helps publishers not us.

That's up to the devs. There is a difference between a demo and a prologue, namely that a prologue will usually tie into the narrative of the game itself. The Demo can be anything from an icsolated level from the game, a specially crafted level that never appears in the game, or the time compressed vertical slice.

So Yeah. it's yup to the devs what they want to call their stuff.

which is cool except the devs on the first line call it a demo.