Need a steam deck price drop

[76561199281265327]

reason being is after watching some videos of steam deck it has become clear that steam deck is actually being used to steam link and remote play high end games in alot of the videos

this is misrepresenting the actual ability of steam decks hardware

steam deck will run low demanding games great

it can not however run demanding high end titles directly it can only steam link remote play them when a more powerful computer is actually running the game.

for this reason i believe that users deserve a fair price for this piece of hardware

reasonable price

200 dollars for the low end model
300 for the mid range
400 for the expanded range

this is my opinion because if you really want the steam deck to succeed you need to get it to the players you need to not get stuck with hardware that is quickly becoming out dated and you need a player base that can use it.

currently steam deck is not for everyone it is a low grade hand held desktop computer, it is not a gaming pc it does not have the hardware capable of handling high end games.

you might not like it but i don't think customers will like buying something that none of the games they want to play will work on. it will lead to mistrust and misrepresentation to the customer that will ultimately create failure.

best of luck with this to steam marketing i will look foward to your price drop and to possibly owning your hardware.

[76561199281265327]

whats weird is i am not bad mouthing anyone, i just simply believe that steam deck needs a price drop to be more worth it for the low resource gamer.

[Thermal Lance]

Originally posted by New Login for Fallout76:

whats weird is i am not bad mouthing anyone, i just simply believe that steam deck needs a price drop to be more worth it for the low resource gamer.

Do you want Gabe to pay you to get one on top of that?

[CJM]

Originally posted by New Login for Fallout76:

whats weird is i am not bad mouthing anyone, i just simply believe that steam deck needs a price drop to be more worth it for the low resource gamer.

I'll give you that one.

The dilemma of the low resource curse.

[76561199281265327]

no i ment players that like low resource hardware, sorry for the misunderstanding. Like indy games are low resource games. they don't require alot of computer resources to run.

Originally posted by Chaos Engineer:

Dude, weren't you arguing for the steam deck to be somekind of "gamer" at better price and now you lowered the order to an indie platform. What's next? It's a pass if it runs minesweeper?

lol at mine sweeper, noooo! you might break the system doing that, apprently it glitches out using a virtual keyboard, who knows what mine sweeper would do, it might internally explode.

[Thermal Lance]

Originally posted by New Login for Fallout76:

no i ment players that like low resource hardware, sorry for the misunderstanding. Like indy games are low resource games. they don't require alot of computer resources to run.

Dude, weren't you arguing for the steam deck to be somekind of "gamer ♥♥♥♥" at better price and now you lowered the order to an indie platform. What's next? It's a pass if it runs minesweeper?

[SilverPigtail]

The Steam Deck has a reasonable price for what it is. And I even think it is cheaper than it should be. You're paying for a pc with good specs for portable gaming.

You can always wait for future sales/discount that the platform may provide when the Deck has some time in the market.

[76561199281265327]

how much time does something need in the market before it becomes outdated and unable to preform? lets consider the actual life expectancy of the batteries in the steam decks, say if in two years they are trying to sell the same models , with old batteries that fail to charge right have even shorter life charges and life half as long, what does that really going to do?

i strongly feel that its important to make steam deck successful, by dropping the price, and getting it to the people that find it interesting enough to potentially want to buy one but need that extra little push to do it.

steam deck is pretty cool, its got me playing via steam link on my android devices, its got me attempting to format my nintendo switch so put steam link on the nintendo switch to use it like a steam deck.

i even just went out and i am currently building my own gaming frame with nintendo switch controlers for my android devices to fit into. thats how much i am getting into the steam deck model.

for someone with no device or no pc, steam deck seems like a good deal but buyers have to beware that you kinda need a real pc to trouble shoot, update, and acutally figure out steam decks ins and outs.

*update*

Originally posted by The Commendatore:

Of course the OP has to keep bumping his troll thread.

I am responding to Silverpigtails post, im sorry that such a high level steam user as yourself doesn't know how to properly use the forums, trolls live under bridges, not on steam decks
you should be more productive with your forum posting.

[The Commendatore]

Of course the OP has to keep bumping his troll thread.

[オナニー]

yea totally agree. phones these days lack so many features but keep increasing in price blergh. Phones just cost what like 50 dollars worth of materials anyways

[Brian9824]

Originally posted by piккµмi:

yea totally agree. phones these days lack so many features but keep increasing in price blergh. Phones just cost what like 50 dollars worth of materials anyways

The screen alone costs more then $50 for many phones, not to mention the camera, processors, etc. There is plenty of profit in them, but they aren't cheap either.

[CJM]

Originally posted by The Commendatore:

Of course the OP has to keep bumping his troll thread.

Yeah, pretty much.

Some interesting discussion happening. I view it as more of a devil's advocate, in formulating arguments for the defense of the Deck, I better understand my own preference for the device.

Most of the conversation has been covered over 11 pages,... IS there anything left to discuss?

Originally posted by New Login for Fallout76:

how much time does something need in the market before it becomes outdated and unable to preform?

That is the million dollar question for the Steam Deck.

Keep in mind, Nintendo re-released the Gamecube as the Nintendo Wii. And there isn't a significant difference between the Wii U and the Switch in processing power.

The name of the game for portables is to be about 10 years behind. Which means a 3-6 year life cycle expectancy.

Originally posted by New Login for Fallout76:

lets consider the actual life expectancy of the batteries in the steam decks, say if in two years they are trying to sell the same models , with old batteries that fail to charge right have even shorter life charges and life half as long, what does that really going to do?

And we're back to trolling.

Originally posted by New Login for Fallout76:

steam deck is pretty cool, its got me playing via steam link on my android devices, its got me attempting to format my nintendo switch so put steam link on the nintendo switch to use it like a steam deck.

i even just went out and i am currently building my own gaming frame with nintendo switch controlers for my android devices to fit into. thats how much i am getting into the steam deck model.

And we're back to trolling, I think. With you're desktop's specifications, that is probably close to what a Steam Deck would be.

Though, the Nintendo Switch is better on its own. The Nintendo Switch is the gold standard for the Steam Deck. Steam Link is a Wii U era technology, so you'd be going backwards with the Steam Link model.

Originally posted by New Login for Fallout76:

buyers have to beware that you kinda need a real pc to trouble shoot, update, and acutally figure out steam decks ins and outs.

No. Especially given the Steam Deck is a PC. You want to know the ins and outs, install Linux on your PC, and use the Gamerscope "Big Picture Mode" in the Steam Beta.

[76561199281265327]

the reason i say you need a pc to trouble shoot the steam decks issues, is cause alot of steam deck users are saying they can't update. device needs a connection and they can't connect it to update. big problem.

looking for alternative functions of already owned devices is much more affordable then just going out and buying new hardware. for me i own a really good pc that doesn't have issues, its properly configured and settings are not downgrading its performance, thus i am getting a great experience on my pc even if my hardware is not the best.

for what i am doing is trying to stream from my PC to my Android device with steam link app, its super cool props to steam on that. I have already linked my ps4 controller with my android and back via with steam link to run my ps4 controller with my android device for portable pc control.

i am no attempting to use switch controllers as i did the ps4 controller, this will be the real test. if it works i can now mount the switch controllers to a frame device which will carry my android tablet. all in all this will create the same kinda style, as the nintendo switch and steam deck, running everything via Stream.

i would like to think of this as innovating when something can't just be bought. but when we have to use what we have to give us the things we really want. I don't expect steam to drop the price of steam deck, but in the same sense, steam can't expect me or many others in the world to buy steam deck, there has to be some kinda middle ground, where the user says ok thats a good deal, give me one, and the company can say , ok we might not be profiting as much as we like, but we are building a reputation and a player base to profit from in the future.

*update to cost of devices*

Originally posted by brian9824:

Originally posted by piккµмi:

yea totally agree. phones these days lack so many features but keep increasing in price blergh. Phones just cost what like 50 dollars worth of materials anyways

The screen alone costs more then $50 for many phones, not to mention the camera, processors, etc. There is plenty of profit in them, but they aren't cheap either.

i have got prepaid smart phones for 25 dollars that are fully functional wifi devices capable of youtube and other android apps, orginal retail price in the 100's but it was 25 dollars, why? because better technology keeps coming out, what will steam deck do if something comes out that blows steam deck away? then it will really go on sale.

[Brian9824]

Originally posted by New Login for Fallout76:

i have got prepaid smart phones for 25 dollars that are fully functional wifi devices capable of youtube and other android apps, orginal retail price in the 100's but it was 25 dollars, why? because better technology keeps coming out, what will steam deck do if something comes out that blows steam deck away? then it will really go on sale.

You can get a burger from mcdonalds for $.99 or you can to a resteraunt and get a Wagyu burger with bacon and truffle mayo for $50.

Comparing budget phones with 8 year old surplus parts to newer phones isn't exactly a good comparison. Right now steam deck is priced under all their competitors, and better technology doesn't magically appear. It takes time to develop, and newer technology costs more then old tech. All the similar devices to the steam deck cost several hundred dollars more.

Hence why your prepaid smart phones are so cheap, and newer more powerful phones cost more.

[CJM]

Originally posted by New Login for Fallout76:

the reason i say you need a pc to trouble shoot the steam decks issues, is cause alot of steam deck users are saying they can't update. device needs a connection and they can't connect it to update. big problem.

The Steam Deck is a PC, you don't need another PC anymore than you would need one for a typical PC with connection issues.

A lot of the "update" issues are not connection issues. What I've been seeing are Linux app store issues on new installs. Probably doesn't affect normal functions of the device. Web browsing and the Steam Desktop client should work normally.

Originally posted by New Login for Fallout76:

tooking for alternative functions of already owned devices is much more affordable then just going out and buying new hardware. for me i own a really good pc that doesn't have issues, its properly configured and settings are not downgrading its performance, thus i am getting a great experience on my pc even if my hardware is not the best.

for what i am doing is trying to stream from my PC to my Android device with steam link app, its super cool props to steam on that...

i am no attempting to use switch controllers as i did the ps4 controller, this will be the real test. if it works i can now mount the switch controllers to a frame device which will carry my android tablet. all in all this will create the same kinda style, as the nintendo switch and steam deck, running everything via Stream.

i would like to think of this as innovating when something can't just be bought. but when we have to use what we have to give us the things we really want.

i have got prepaid smart phones for 25 dollars that are fully functional wifi devices capable of youtube and other android apps, orginal retail price in the 100's but it was 25 dollars, why? because better technology keeps coming out, what will steam deck do if something comes out that blows steam deck away? then it will really go on sale.

It is here I that I say "PC gamers get into hacky situations".

Not a thing I can argue about here.

[AmsterdamHeavy]

OP...dont start a business. Youll be in the "6 month" category, for sure.