I Think There's A Glitch In The Point Store

[🦈Da Great Magician Aike🐙]

I'm thinking that some of the PS items, like those from Steam 3000/Summer Sale 2022 and Forge Your Fate, are missing.

Proof:

Steam 3000

Steam DB: https://steamdb.info/app/2021850/communityitems/

Point Shop: https://store.steampowered.com/points/shop/app/2021850?curator_clanid=4777282&utm_source=SteamDB

Forge Your Fate:

Steam DB: https://steamdb.info/app/1658760/communityitems/

Point Shop: https://store.steampowered.com/points/shop/app/1658760?curator_clanid=4777282&utm_source=SteamDB

Autumn Sale 2021

Steam DB: https://steamdb.info/app/1792490/communityitems/

Point Shop: https://store.steampowered.com/points/shop/app/1792490?curator_clanid=4777282&utm_source=SteamDB

As one can see, some of the items, like animation frames, chat stickers, and mini profiles are missing. I think that this is a glitch.

[IFIYGD]

🦈Nightiest Raven🐙🦋 の投稿を引用：

As one can see, some of the items, like animation frames, chat stickers, and mini profiles are missing. I think that this is a glitch.

The Autumn Sale 2021 mini profile, animated avatar, mini profile, profile background and avatar frame are part of the "Special Profile" at the top. They are still there, but you have to buy the entire Artist's Profile bundle.

For the ones from events- the items that are there are from crafting and leveling up the badge for that event. The other items were individual rewards for participating in the event and completing event tasks. That is the differentiation, and Valve has every right to make that distinction. Their store, their event, they get to decide if people who did not participate can use no-money-value Steam Points to buy certain items.

I get it- you see items that other people have and want them, and FOMO kicks in. I missed the year of the Pig Lunar New Year event because I was in the hospital. So... no pig-in-a-blanket emoticon or any of the other pig emotes from that event. I would enjoy having them, but I am not going to call it a "glitch" that I was not able to participate in the event. It's just like items from removed games that I can't get now, because the items are no longer available in the Steam Marketplace, and you can't buy Trading Cards from those games- only Trade for them at usually ridiculously exorbitant exchange rates, with people who still have them.

Not a glitch- it's Capitalism, PR, and brand marketing in action.
"Missed out on some goodies from [_X_Event_]? Well, make sure you never miss another upcoming event, and make sure you participate in it fully! And buy a few games while you are there too, please!".

[🦈Da Great Magician Aike🐙]

IFIYGD の投稿を引用：

🦈Nightiest Raven🐙🦋 の投稿を引用：

As one can see, some of the items, like animation frames, chat stickers, and mini profiles are missing. I think that this is a glitch.

The Autumn Sale 2021 mini profile, animated avatar, mini profile, profile background and avatar frame are part of the "Special Profile" at the top. They are still there, but you have to buy the entire Artist's Profile bundle.

For the ones from events- the items that are there are from crafting and leveling up the badge for that event. The other items were individual rewards for participating in the event and completing event tasks. That is the differentiation, and Valve has every right to make that distinction. Their store, their event, they get to decide if people who did not participate can use no-money-value Steam Points to buy certain items.

I get it- you see items that other people have and want them, and FOMO kicks in. I missed the year of the Pig Lunar New Year event because I was in the hospital. So... no pig-in-a-blanket emoticon or any of the other pig emotes from that event. I would enjoy having them, but I am not going to call it a "glitch" that I was not able to participate in the event. It's just like items from removed games that I can't get now, because the items are no longer available in the Steam Marketplace, and you can't buy Trading Cards from those games- only Trade for them at usually ridiculously exorbitant exchange rates, with people who still have them.

Not a glitch- it's Capitalism, PR, and brand marketing in action.
"Missed out on some goodies from [_X_Event_]?
Well, make sure you never miss another upcoming event, and make sure you participate in it fully! And buy a few games while you are there too, please!".

I actually found the items for the Steam events in the Steam Database and the Steam Stack Exchange linking to their Point Shop pages. I was a bit shocked, since, like everyone else, I thought that they were removed after the events. Not buried in the inner recesses of the Point Shop items store and readily available for anyone to redeem.

Tiny proof of my late haul: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2885945919

[IFIYGD]

🦈Nightiest Raven🐙🦋 の投稿を引用：

I actually found the items for the Steam events in the Steam Database and the Steam Stack Exchange linking to their Point Shop pages. I was a bit shocked, since, like everyone else, I thought that they were removed after the events. Not buried in the inner recesses of the Point Shop items store and readily available for anyone to redeem.

And I actually found them using the "Filter By Game" filter in the Steam Points Store, without having to search outside websites- never left the desktop Client:
https://prnt.sc/mif6E7F8XPqM
https://prnt.sc/_vzExCQBot2_
https://prnt.sc/EGYRUOBID75g
https://prnt.sc/sPnnJe0LYiyV
https://prnt.sc/A49qUPTyZQLp
https://prnt.sc/z4Ov-jOHceat

Unfortunately, 2019 is no longer available. That's the one I missed and have interest in.

[crunchyfrog]

Narcissistic Cannibal の投稿を引用：

Crazy Tiger の投稿を引用：

Game developers/publishers are the ones who decide what they do or do not offer (anymore) on the points shop. It's completely optional for them to participate in that and they can choose to stop offering items through it if they so wish.

If it was a glitch, the items would still be listed on the SteamDB site and have an active link to the item acquisition page (as was in the thread you linked earlier). But your last example has none of that. It very much indicates that the game developer/publisher only wants to offer the items currently there.

That said, the items that are missing from the events in the OP also don't have active acquisition pages when I use the links from the SteamDB website. That would indicate the items have been disabled, though it also could mean server issues.

I used to think that if a game has X backgrounds and Y emoticons, they are all automatically available at the points shop (at least this is how it worked before). And I'm not talking about games like Deathloop, which points shop page was empty from the beginning due to the publisher's decision.

Publishers removing select items manually simply makes no sense. I would understand if this happened only to the delisted games like Magic 2015, or events (so that publishers could profit more from the community market sales of rare items), but it is happening to both old and new games, cheap and expensive items alike. What's more important, it spreads to more and more titles recently. The randomness of these occurences is what made me think it's a bug on Steam's end.

Here's the thing.

It's been explained why this can happen and it's down to the discretion of the rights owners. You assert it's a bug.

So what's your empirical evidence of this? Unless you can state this and show it is a bug, then we're really just going round in circles.

Maybe try finding out an example and contacting the rights owners?

[Narcissistic Cannibal]

crunchyfrog の投稿を引用：

So what's your empirical evidence of this? Unless you can state this and show it is a bug, then we're really just going round in circles.

Maybe try finding out an example and contacting the rights owners?

Tomorrow you wake up and find out that all games starting with vowels disappered from your Steam library. Do you:
А. Assume it's a bug (without any empirical evidence) and try contacting support or asking the forums.
B. Convince yourself it's a just a change of Valve's policy and rejoice that you still have plenty of games starting with consonants.

[cSg|mc-Hotsauce]

Narcissistic Cannibal の投稿を引用：

crunchyfrog の投稿を引用：

So what's your empirical evidence of this? Unless you can state this and show it is a bug, then we're really just going round in circles.

Maybe try finding out an example and contacting the rights owners?

Tomorrow you wake up and find out that all games starting with vowels disappered from your Steam library. Do you:
А. Assume it's a bug (without any empirical evidence) and try contacting support or asking the forums.
B. Convince yourself it's a just a change of Valve's policy and rejoice that you still have plenty of games starting with consonants.

There is still a bug on the client (from 2020) that has games randomly disappear from your game list but it still shows you own it on the store page.

[crunchyfrog]

Narcissistic Cannibal の投稿を引用：

crunchyfrog の投稿を引用：

So what's your empirical evidence of this? Unless you can state this and show it is a bug, then we're really just going round in circles.

Maybe try finding out an example and contacting the rights owners?

Tomorrow you wake up and find out that all games starting with vowels disappered from your Steam library. Do you:
А. Assume it's a bug (without any empirical evidence) and try contacting support or asking the forums.
B. Convince yourself it's a just a change of Valve's policy and rejoice that you still have plenty of games starting with consonants.

Simple - neither.

It's the default postion. You don't believe ANYTHING without evidence,. You say "I don't know what's happening". Basic logic 101.

Then you look for evidence to find the answer, and if you still can't find adequate evidence, it remains "I don't know".

That's why burden of proof exists.

[Narcissistic Cannibal]

crunchyfrog の投稿を引用：

Simple - neither.

It's the default postion. You don't believe ANYTHING without evidence,. You say "I don't know what's happening". Basic logic 101.

Then you look for evidence to find the answer

So it's still A - you have to assume something before acting.

[🦈Da Great Magician Aike🐙]

IFIYGD の投稿を引用：

🦈Nightiest Raven🐙🦋 の投稿を引用：

I actually found the items for the Steam events in the Steam Database and the Steam Stack Exchange linking to their Point Shop pages. I was a bit shocked, since, like everyone else, I thought that they were removed after the events. Not buried in the inner recesses of the Point Shop items store and readily available for anyone to redeem.

And I actually found them using the "Filter By Game" filter in the Steam Points Store, without having to search outside websites- never left the desktop Client:
https://prnt.sc/mif6E7F8XPqM
https://prnt.sc/_vzExCQBot2_
https://prnt.sc/EGYRUOBID75g
https://prnt.sc/sPnnJe0LYiyV
https://prnt.sc/A49qUPTyZQLp
https://prnt.sc/z4Ov-jOHceat

Unfortunately, 2019 is no longer available. That's the one I missed and have interest in.

I found these, there's still some stuff and I dunno if these are what ya want, though I would normally assume that this is what ya meant by by some of these pages are "No longer available." (Seriously, the only things left are chat stickers.

Spring Cleaning: https://store.steampowered.com/points/shop/app/1083560?curator_clanid=4777282&utm_source=SteamDB

Winter Sale: https://store.steampowered.com/points/shop/app/1195690?curator_clanid=4777282&utm_source=SteamDB

Summer Sale 2019: https://store.steampowered.com/points/shop/app/1095000?curator_clanid=4777282&utm_source=SteamDB

[IFIYGD]

🦈Nightiest Raven🐙🦋 の投稿を引用：

IFIYGD の投稿を引用：

And I actually found them using the "Filter By Game" filter in the Steam Points Store, without having to search outside websites- never left the desktop Client:
https://prnt.sc/mif6E7F8XPqM
https://prnt.sc/_vzExCQBot2_
https://prnt.sc/EGYRUOBID75g
https://prnt.sc/sPnnJe0LYiyV
https://prnt.sc/A49qUPTyZQLp
https://prnt.sc/z4Ov-jOHceat

Unfortunately, 2019 is no longer available. That's the one I missed and have interest in.

I found these, there's still some stuff and I dunno if these are what ya want, though I would normally assume that this is what ya meant by by some of these pages are "No longer available." (Seriously, the only things left are chat stickers.

Spring Cleaning: https://store.steampowered.com/points/shop/app/1083560?curator_clanid=4777282&utm_source=SteamDB

Winter Sale: https://store.steampowered.com/points/shop/app/1195690?curator_clanid=4777282&utm_source=SteamDB

Summer Sale 2019: https://store.steampowered.com/points/shop/app/1095000?curator_clanid=4777282&utm_source=SteamDB

No- because when I said it was the Lunar New Year 2019 Pig-In-A-Blanket emote and the other piggie emotes from that event I had interest in, it means those were the ones I had interest in, and they are no longer available in the Points Shop. That was the event I was in the hospital for and could not participate in. The other ones you listed I participated in and got what I wanted from. The ones from this event: https://steamtradingcards.fandom.com/wiki/Lunar_New_Year_Sale_2019

[🦈Da Great Magician Aike🐙]

IFIYGD の投稿を引用：

🦈Nightiest Raven🐙🦋 の投稿を引用：

I found these, there's still some stuff and I dunno if these are what ya want, though I would normally assume that this is what ya meant by by some of these pages are "No longer available." (Seriously, the only things left are chat stickers.

Spring Cleaning: https://store.steampowered.com/points/shop/app/1083560?curator_clanid=4777282&utm_source=SteamDB

Winter Sale: https://store.steampowered.com/points/shop/app/1195690?curator_clanid=4777282&utm_source=SteamDB

Summer Sale 2019: https://store.steampowered.com/points/shop/app/1095000?curator_clanid=4777282&utm_source=SteamDB

No- because when I said it was the Lunar New Year 2019 Pig-In-A-Blanket emote and the other piggie emotes from that event I had interest in, it means those were the ones I had interest in, and they are no longer available in the Points Shop. That was the event I was in the hospital for and could not participate in. The other ones you listed I participated in and got what I wanted from. The ones from this event: https://steamtradingcards.fandom.com/wiki/Lunar_New_Year_Sale_2019

Oh, THOSE ones, yes, I am interested in those items as well. The Year Of The Rat is also gone, even though it's made in 2020.

[crunchyfrog]

Narcissistic Cannibal の投稿を引用：

crunchyfrog の投稿を引用：

Simple - neither.

It's the default postion. You don't believe ANYTHING without evidence,. You say "I don't know what's happening". Basic logic 101.

Then you look for evidence to find the answer

So it's still A - you have to assume something before acting.

Nope, quite wrong.

You assume the DEFAULT postion. Nothing.

Then you look and make your decision either way when you have suifficient evidence.

The default position is the ABSENCE of a decision - that's the point.

[Narcissistic Cannibal]

crunchyfrog の投稿を引用：

Narcissistic Cannibal の投稿を引用：

So it's still A - you have to assume something before acting.

Nope, quite wrong.

You assume the DEFAULT postion. Nothing.

Then you look and make your decision either way when you have suifficient evidence.

The default position is the ABSENCE of a decision - that's the point.

The default position when encountering a digital product randomly losing part of its functionality is assumption of a bug.
When you load up a racing game, and half of the cars spawn without wheels, you first thought will be "What the ♥♥♥♥ is this bug?!", and not "I should not jump to conclusions, better carefully assess all possible reasons for this peculiar phenomenon".

[happy]

Narcissistic Cannibal の投稿を引用：

crunchyfrog の投稿を引用：

Nope, quite wrong.

You assume the DEFAULT postion. Nothing.

Then you look and make your decision either way when you have suifficient evidence.

The default position is the ABSENCE of a decision - that's the point.

The default position when encountering a digital product randomly losing part of its functionality is assumption of a bug.
When you load up a racing game, and half of the cars spawn without wheels, you first thought will be "What the ♥♥♥♥ is this bug?!", and not "I should not jump to conclusions, better carefully assess all possible reasons for this peculiar phenomenon".

Nope, my first Assumption when Seasonal Items that often get removed after a specific Timeframe, get removed... I assume its gone because said Timeframe is passed.

[crunchyfrog]

Narcissistic Cannibal の投稿を引用：

crunchyfrog の投稿を引用：

Nope, quite wrong.

You assume the DEFAULT postion. Nothing.

Then you look and make your decision either way when you have suifficient evidence.

The default position is the ABSENCE of a decision - that's the point.

The default position when encountering a digital product randomly losing part of its functionality is assumption of a bug.
When you load up a racing game, and half of the cars spawn without wheels, you first thought will be "What the ♥♥♥♥ is this bug?!", and not "I should not jump to conclusions, better carefully assess all possible reasons for this peculiar phenomenon".

Erm that's not what the default position means. You clearly are making something up.

Let me explain it to you.

With any binary proposition - there are ONLY two possible answers, OK? So if I said "I have a pet dragon" it is either true or false isn't it? It can't be anything else.

So if I say that to you, the DEFAULT position is to NOT MAKE ANY DECISION about whether it's true or not. It doesn't mean you've chosen either side.

That's what the default position means. It's the automatic non-answer if you will.

So, in this case, you NEVER believe anything and jump to a decision when you have inadequate evidence - you should be taking NO decision.