What happened with steam allowing NSFW content openly.

[aloan]

Few years ago, if you were to report someone for having a butt picture It'll be taken down in a matter of few days.

And now as I go through Resident Evil "Art page" or whatsoever, it's full of porn pictures, nothing hidden or sensor'd, and Steam is kinda being open to this ♥♥♥♥??

I have seen some profiles literally full of porno stuff, whether from games or IRL, yet they're pretty much going ??????? Even if you report them they don't really take actions anymore?

[❤ Sly Succubus ❤]

引用自 6Taylor4：

引用自 davidb11：

Sorry, that's not how it works.
You have to prove it was there.
IF you can't, you are lying.

Period.
You cannot twist my words around, that is not allowed.
I'm asking for evidence of a claim that people flat out lie about constantly.
No one is serious if they saw porn.

Too many people have proven those people wrong. That's common sense. Again, only people who think the statue of David is porn can claim there's porn in the Resident Evil hub.


Stop fighting me, you will never win. IT is extreme folly to fight me.

For your edification, three legal sources to consider:

Currently, obscenity is evaluated by federal and state courts alike using a tripartite standard established by Miller v. California. The Miller test for obscenity includes the following criteria: (1) whether ‘the average person, applying contemporary community standards’ would find that the work, ‘taken as a whole,’ appeals to ‘prurient interest’ (2) whether the work depicts or describes, in a patently offensive way, sexual conduct specifically defined by the applicable state law, and (3) whether the work, ‘taken as a whole,’ lacks serious literary, artistic, political, or scientific value.

( In a case involving a) Book Named "John Cleland's Memoirs of a Woman of Pleasure" v. Attorney General, 383 U.S. 413, 86 S. Ct. 975, 16 L. Ed. 2d 1, the Court concluded that to establish obscenity, the material must, aside from appealing to the prurient interest, be "utterly without redeeming social value" and "patently offensive because it affronts contemporary community standards relating to the description of sexual matters." The phrase "utterly without redeeming social value" allowed a loophole for pornographers.

The U.S. Supreme Court established the test that judges and juries use to determine whether matter is obscene in three major cases: Miller v. California, 413 U.S. 15, 24-25 (1973); Smith v. United States, 431 U.S. 291, 300-02, 309 (1977); and Pope v. Illinois, 481 U.S. 497, 500-01 (1987). The three-pronged Miller test is as follows:

Whether the average person, applying contemporary adult community standards, finds that the matter, taken as a whole, appeals to prurient interests (i.e., an erotic, lascivious, abnormal, unhealthy, degrading, shameful, or morbid interest in nudity, sex, or excretion);
Whether the average person, applying contemporary adult community standards, finds that the matter depicts or describes sexual conduct in a patently offensive way (i.e., ultimate sexual acts, normal or perverted, actual or simulated, masturbation, excretory functions, lewd exhibition of the genitals, or sado-masochistic sexual abuse); and
Whether a reasonable person finds that the matter, taken as a whole, lacks serious literary, artistic, political, or scientific value.

There are the facts, the laws and the conclusions.

Those are Cases, not laws, above you listed a legal case which in of itself is not a law but a ruling of a judge in proxy to WHAT THE ACTUAL law is.

Like the entire thing states the use of the Miller Test as its only source entirely which is, quote
The Miller test, also called the three-prong obscenity test, is the United States Supreme Court 's test for determining whether speech or expression can be labeled obscene, in which case it is not protected by the First Amendment to the United States Constitution and can be prohibited.

Edit: My spelling is not on point today..

[TheForestSpirit]

引用自 fluxtorrent：

I've been on forums since 95 and I see you are still doubling down on the insults, again speaks more to you than me

I've been online longer than you and you're the first so called Moderator I've come across that doesn't stop arguing.

[davidb11]

引用自 TheForestSpirit：

引用自 fluxtorrent：

I've been on forums since 95 and I see you are still doubling down on the insults, again speaks more to you than me

I've been online longer than you and you're the first so called Moderator I've come across that doesn't stop arguing.

Very well said.
"Quite believed his own press this one did."

[Coffee]

The skyrim artwork AND screenshot section are far more risque than what I see in the resident evil section

With that said, don't see the big deal. When I went to london many years ago when I was a kid, there was literal porn magazines and pictures posted on walls and out in public. There was even nudists at the time at this park and no one cared. Its even more open these days I believe around the world with things like the #freethenipple campaign and far more risque clothing options are out there.

Ever gone to a california, florida or new york beach? I have been to all three and there are more risque outfits those places than you see in most anime games lol. In florida, there was even a couple guys making out with each other wearing thongs and after three hours of spending time at the beach (wasnt a nudist beach either) they were still left alone (granted I didnt watch them the whole time that be a creep, just noticed it and left them alone and when I left they were still going at it lol), this was about a year before covid so not that long ago.

I imagine if anyone making a big deal about this went to one of those beaches would have a heartattack and/or probably start ranting at them.

But the truth is, in todays society no one cares. And the further truth is, violent games are FAR worse (and its been scientifically proven in most countries, US ignores it mostly because then they have to "accept" nudity as being better) for kids than some boob.

[davidb11]

Uh. No one can ever claim violent video games are bad for people.
THat is immediately invalid.
If that was the case violence would be massively on the rise since 1991.
And that's just flat out wrong world wide.
Literally no one can ever claim otherwise.
Seriously, violence rates would be a thousand times what they were if you were correct.


Don't destroy your credibility by completely lying about something.
America also doesn't ignore anything for reasons like that.
Don't make up stuff about our country.

[Coffee]

引用自 davidb11：

Uh. No one can ever claim violent video games are bad for people.
THat is immediately invalid.
If that was the case violence would be massively on the rise since 1991.
And that's just flat out wrong world wide.
Literally no one can ever claim otherwise.
Seriously, violence rates would be a thousand times what they were if you were correct.


Don't destroy your credibility by completely lying about something.
America also doesn't ignore anything for reasons like that.
Don't make up stuff about our country.

https://www.aacap.org/AACAP/Families_and_Youth/Facts_for_Families/FFF-Guide/Children-and-Video-Games-Playing-with-Violence-091.aspx#:~:text=Studies%20of%20children%20exposed%20to,more%20influenced%20by%20violent%20images.


Simple google search would find that

There is also this

https://royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/10.1098/rsos.171474

And a recent one

https://www.liebertpub.com/doi/10.1089/cyber.2020.0049

and plenty more.

[❤ Sly Succubus ❤]

引用自 davidb11：

Uh. No one can ever claim violent video games are bad for people.
THat is immediately invalid.
If that was the case violence would be massively on the rise since 1991.
And that's just flat out wrong world wide.
Literally no one can ever claim otherwise.
Seriously, violence rates would be a thousand times what they were if you were correct.


Don't destroy your credibility by completely lying about something.
America also doesn't ignore anything for reasons like that.
Don't make up stuff about our country.

I will note also the US never denies it, they publically stated people who cant tell the difference between the real world and one in a video game is the persons fault, not the game, games that effect people need to be stop being played.

I cant play games with to much gore else I get mental nightmares of bloody situations, but thats not even related to violence, thats just blood in general in games and I already know the cause and fixed it long ago.

They have nothing to accept, they literally have nothing to say then
"If you cant tell reality from fiction then thats your own fault."

[❤ Sly Succubus ❤]

Children and adolescents can become overly involved with videogames. They may have difficulty controlling the amount of time they play. They may resist their parents’ attempts to limit their time playing video games. Spending excessive time playing these games can lead to:

Less time socializing with friends and family
Poor social skills
Time away from family time, school work, and other hobbies
Lower grades
Less reading
Less exercise and becoming overweight
Decreased sleep and poor quality sleep
Aggressive thoughts and behaviors




From the first link.

Okay so lets do this.

1: False to a massive degree, if their spending less time with family thats a family issue, not even remotely related to video games, its called Escapism and ya, people do it to escape a ♥♥♥♥ life.

2: Literally I need nothing to add here because literally Steams public forms proves it wrong

3: Thats just the first one repeating.

4: Outright wrong, grades have never been impacted by a game, if one fails to study thats their own fault

5: Okay, who actually reads these days? In all seriousness outside of gamers, who actually reads and claims thats due to video games?

6: I got nothing there, as thats not the case beyond the standard meme people and adults who think its real

7: Sleep is not impacted by games, end of story. If it is then the parents need to freaking step in.

8: Ya no. Thats called fandoms and gamers, quoting a 2017 report where people who dont game know anything they babble on about

[davidb11]

引用自 Coffee：

引用自 davidb11：

Uh. No one can ever claim violent video games are bad for people.
THat is immediately invalid.
If that was the case violence would be massively on the rise since 1991.
And that's just flat out wrong world wide.
Literally no one can ever claim otherwise.
Seriously, violence rates would be a thousand times what they were if you were correct.


Don't destroy your credibility by completely lying about something.
America also doesn't ignore anything for reasons like that.
Don't make up stuff about our country.

https://www.aacap.org/AACAP/Families_and_Youth/Facts_for_Families/FFF-Guide/Children-and-Video-Games-Playing-with-Violence-091.aspx#:~:text=Studies%20of%20children%20exposed%20to,more%20influenced%20by%20violent%20images.


Simple google search would find that

There is also this

https://royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/10.1098/rsos.171474

And a recent one

https://www.liebertpub.com/doi/10.1089/cyber.2020.0049

and plenty more.

They don't count.
That's my point.
Any survey or whatnot talking about violence in video games affecting people is IMMEDIATELY invalid.

You are claiming they are valid despite the fact that violent video games don't cause violent behavior.

You do know there would be CONSTANT violence the world over if you were correct, right?
You are literally wrong because if you were right, every country would have an epidemic of violence
You can never take any survey or anything that claims violent video games cause violence in people as valid because it goes against REALITY itself and 40 years of evidence!
40 YEARS!

Show me one valid example of violent video games causing a problem in the real world, by themselves!
BY SIMPLY existing!
You'll never find any evidence!
Seriously, I want one example of a single violent video game causing issues just because it existed.

You are literally implying that Doom caused Columbine.

[❤ Sly Succubus ❤]

HOLD UP THATS THE AACAP POST!?
OH GOD NO WONDER ITS FREAKING WRONG!

Its literally the same nonprofit group that went out of their way to claim antidepressents were the reason teens had mental issues, a group well known for its unauthorized non-clinical reports and is regarded as one of the most wrong self-proclaimed journalism group that exists?

They literally are a group known for not using safety measures in any of their trials ever, any of those claims of theirs are literally the result of people FORCED INTO THE WORSE SITUATION PRIOR TO THE TEST XD

[crunchyfrog]

引用自 Lustrous Spirit：

引用自 davidb11：

Uh. No one can ever claim violent video games are bad for people.
THat is immediately invalid.
If that was the case violence would be massively on the rise since 1991.
And that's just flat out wrong world wide.
Literally no one can ever claim otherwise.
Seriously, violence rates would be a thousand times what they were if you were correct.


Don't destroy your credibility by completely lying about something.
America also doesn't ignore anything for reasons like that.
Don't make up stuff about our country.

I will note also the US never denies it, they publically stated people who cant tell the difference between the real world and one in a video game is the persons fault, not the game, games that effect people need to be stop being played.

I cant play games with to much gore else I get mental nightmares of bloody situations, but thats not even related to violence, thats just blood in general in games and I already know the cause and fixed it long ago.

They have nothing to accept, they literally have nothing to say then
"If you cant tell reality from fiction then thats your own fault."

Well to be fair there ARE certain people who have politicized this and every bloody time gun crime comes up they will jump to the "look, video games bad" argument.

There have been one or two studies that have claimed this but so far all of them have been debunked. There is a mountain of evidence that has been peeer reviewed thankfuly that show the contrary.

[davidb11]

引用自 Lustrous Spirit：

HOLD UP THATS THE AACAP POST!?
OH GOD NO WONDER ITS FREAKING WRONG!

Its literally the same nonprofit group that went out of their way to claim antidepressents were the reason teens had mental issues, a group well known for its unauthorized non-clinical reports and is regarded as one of the most wrong self-proclaimed journalism group that exists?

They literally are a group known for not using safety measures in any of their trials ever, any of those claims of theirs are literally the result of people FORCED INTO THE WORSE SITUATION PRIOR TO THE TEST XD

Wow. I did not know that.
So, he's not only wrong, he's basically making Alex Jones look like he knows better sources. :P

And thank you, Crunchyfrog.

[Coffee]

Violent games do effect young kids whose minds are still growing. And they especially effect people with mental disorders and other mental disabilities. Lots of other studies that can be found on google. Some from UK, some from australia as two places that have done studies, along with various others in europe.

Either way, you never hear about "a boob popped out on a video game or movie or magazine and caused mass violence", only the violent games (which in my opinion isn't the source, but highly enhances the effect of those with severe mental disorders).

[crunchyfrog]

引用自 Coffee：

Violent games do effect young kids whose minds are still growing. And they especially effect people with mental disorders and other mental disabilities. Lots of other studies that can be found on google. Some from UK, some from australia as two places that have done studies, along with various others in europe.

Either way, you never hear about "a boob popped out on a video game or movie or magazine and caused mass violence", only the violent games (which in my opinion isn't the source, but highly enhances the effect of those with severe mental disorders).

Well please explain why they've all been debunked.

Please cite your peer reviewed sources then.

[davidb11]

引用自 Coffee：

Violent games do effect young kids whose minds are still growing. And they especially effect people with mental disorders and other mental disabilities. Lots of other studies that can be found on google. Some from UK, some from australia as two places that have done studies, along with various others in europe.

Either way, you never hear about "a boob popped out on a video game or movie or magazine and caused mass violence", only the violent games (which in my opinion isn't the source, but highly enhances the effect of those with severe mental disorders).

You do know every single report and survey was completely debunked right?
Crunchyfrog even pointed that out.

You cannot ignore someone pointing out you are literally using information that was debunked.
You also are using a horrifically bad source that no one would use.

I'm sorry, but there is too much evidence that violent video games have the opposite effect than what you claim.

Also, yes, as Crunchy asked, show us the peer reviewed sources. I'm sure you can find something trustworthy like Harvard or something. :P