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Does the new Saints Row will be on Steam?
Hello everyone, the new 5 episode comming in august and it is not possible to pre-order this game on steam.

Only in Epic Game, does someone have any information about it?


I have nothing against Epic game but having the achievements is still nice and Epic just reminds me of when I was playing PlayStation 2
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TheForestSpirit 2022년 7월 23일 오후 12시 45분 
I didn't even know it was going to be a timed exclusive tbh. That is disappointing as I prefer to buy my games on here instead of Epic.
crunchyfrog 2022년 7월 23일 오후 1시 08분 
Jamebonds1님이 먼저 게시:
kalcuey-freehk님이 먼저 게시:


i can give anecdotal evidence that getting a game from a stranger is fine

i was given a game by someone, no clue who, and it was fine. still in my library and zero strange requests.
That is good for you; however, I find no evidence that is it is safe. Which mean it is at your own risk to accept a gift from stranger.
That's YOUR assertion which you haven't demonstrated as per usual.

The point remains that if someone gifts you a game, then there is NO WAY for them to do anything to you by that action alone.

As stated before the only possibility is that the game was bought illegitimately and the game will simply be removed from their account.

Please demonstrate cases where your claims have happened and to what degree. Because it sounds like you're making a slippery slope fallacy.

The fact is many people here have had and given games to strangers - it's VERY common on here. And there havs not been any known examples of people then weirdly having to do things that some malcontent tells them. You can simply say "no".

Please demonstrate otherwise.
Jamebonds1 2022년 7월 23일 오후 1시 10분 
crunchyfrog님이 먼저 게시:
Jamebonds1님이 먼저 게시:
That is good for you; however, I find no evidence that is it is safe. Which mean it is at your own risk to accept a gift from stranger.
That's YOUR assertion which you haven't demonstrated as per usual.

The point remains that if someone gifts you a game, then there is NO WAY for them to do anything to you by that action alone.

As stated before the only possibility is that the game was bought illegitimately and the game will simply be removed from their account.

Please demonstrate cases where your claims have happened and to what degree. Because it sounds like you're making a slippery slope fallacy.

The fact is many people here have had and given games to strangers - it's VERY common on here. And there havs not been any known examples of people then weirdly having to do things that some malcontent tells them. You can simply say "no".

Please demonstrate otherwise.
Please show me your evidence first.
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crunchyfrog 2022년 7월 23일 오후 1시 12분 
Jamebonds1님이 먼저 게시:
crunchyfrog님이 먼저 게시:
That's YOUR assertion which you haven't demonstrated as per usual.

The point remains that if someone gifts you a game, then there is NO WAY for them to do anything to you by that action alone.

As stated before the only possibility is that the game was bought illegitimately and the game will simply be removed from their account.

Please demonstrate cases where your claims have happened and to what degree. Because it sounds like you're making a slippery slope fallacy.

The fact is many people here have had and given games to strangers - it's VERY common on here. And there havs not been any known examples of people then weirdly having to do things that some malcontent tells them. You can simply say "no".

Please demonstrate otherwise.
Please show me your evidence first.
We're not playing this game again.

I have made NO claim. I dispute your claim that this is not safe. You need to demonstrate HOW this is so.

So do so - show where you have evidence of this happening.
KalGimpa 2022년 7월 23일 오후 1시 15분 
Jamebonds1님이 먼저 게시:
crunchyfrog님이 먼저 게시:
That's YOUR assertion which you haven't demonstrated as per usual.

The point remains that if someone gifts you a game, then there is NO WAY for them to do anything to you by that action alone.

As stated before the only possibility is that the game was bought illegitimately and the game will simply be removed from their account.

Please demonstrate cases where your claims have happened and to what degree. Because it sounds like you're making a slippery slope fallacy.

The fact is many people here have had and given games to strangers - it's VERY common on here. And there havs not been any known examples of people then weirdly having to do things that some malcontent tells them. You can simply say "no".

Please demonstrate otherwise.
Please show me your evidence first.

i gave you evidence and you dismissed it. it now your turn to prove this

Jamebonds1님이 먼저 게시:
When receiving a gift from strangers then it is usual bad news. I mean the stranger could expect the gift receiver to do inappropriate thing.

is a problem
Jamebonds1 2022년 7월 23일 오후 1시 18분 
crunchyfrog님이 먼저 게시:
Jamebonds1님이 먼저 게시:
Please show me your evidence first.
We're not playing this game again.

I have made NO claim. I dispute your claim that this is not safe. You need to demonstrate HOW this is so.

So do so - show where you have evidence of this happening.
Okay. You said you disputed my claim which mean you have an evidence to prove me wrong. So again, please show me your evidence.

kalcuey-freehk님이 먼저 게시:
Jamebonds1님이 먼저 게시:
Please show me your evidence first.

i gave you evidence and you dismissed it. it now your turn to prove this

Jamebonds1님이 먼저 게시:
When receiving a gift from strangers then it is usual bad news. I mean the stranger could expect the gift receiver to do inappropriate thing.

is a problem
I'm not the one that make ridiculous claim because it happened to some people online due to danger of socal media. You can said it is false, but I have study about it for 16 years and have police in family.
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KalGimpa 2022년 7월 23일 오후 1시 22분 
Jamebonds1님이 먼저 게시:
crunchyfrog님이 먼저 게시:
We're not playing this game again.

I have made NO claim. I dispute your claim that this is not safe. You need to demonstrate HOW this is so.

So do so - show where you have evidence of this happening.
Okay. You said you disputed my claim which mean you have an evidence to prove me wrong. So again, please show me your evidence.

kalcuey-freehk님이 먼저 게시:

i gave you evidence and you dismissed it. it now your turn to prove this



is a problem
I'm not the one that make ridiculous because it happened to some people online due to danger of socal media. You can said it is false, but I have study about it for 16 years and have police in family.


you have not shown me any case of this being a problem. you simply said it is.

beyond that, the only problem would be if they used a stolen card to buy it first. unless you are weak willed and believe you owe that person something, there is nothing to be gained by just throwing games at people with the hopes of a return
crunchyfrog 2022년 7월 23일 오후 1시 24분 
Jamebonds1님이 먼저 게시:
crunchyfrog님이 먼저 게시:
We're not playing this game again.

I have made NO claim. I dispute your claim that this is not safe. You need to demonstrate HOW this is so.

So do so - show where you have evidence of this happening.
Okay. You said you disputed my claim which mean you have an evidence to prove me wrong. So again, please show me your evidence.

kalcuey-freehk님이 먼저 게시:

i gave you evidence and you dismissed it. it now your turn to prove this



is a problem
I'm not the one that make ridiculous claim because it happened to some people online due to danger of socal media. You can said it is false, but I have study about it for 16 years and have police in family.
Nope I said I don't belive your claim. The default position.

We've been over this so many times about the gumball analogy.

Disblieving a claim is simply saying "sorry I don't see any evidence of that". I t CANNOT mean I am making a contrary claim.

I'm saying "where's your evidence for YOUR claim"?

SO stop trying to twsit the burden of prroof and present the vidence for YOUR claim it's not safe. YOU said it, so you must have evidence for it right? So where is it?
Jamebonds1 2022년 7월 23일 오후 1시 25분 
crunchyfrog님이 먼저 게시:
Jamebonds1님이 먼저 게시:
Okay. You said you disputed my claim which mean you have an evidence to prove me wrong. So again, please show me your evidence.


I'm not the one that make ridiculous claim because it happened to some people online due to danger of socal media. You can said it is false, but I have study about it for 16 years and have police in family.
Nope I said I don't belive your claim. The default position.

We've been over this so many times about the gumball analogy.

Disblieving a claim is simply saying "sorry I don't see any evidence of that". I t CANNOT mean I am making a contrary claim.

I'm saying "where's your evidence for YOUR claim"?

SO stop trying to twsit the burden of prroof and present the vidence for YOUR claim it's not safe. YOU said it, so you must have evidence for it right? So where is it?
Then please leave me alone and stop harassing me

kalcuey-freehk님이 먼저 게시:
Jamebonds1님이 먼저 게시:
Okay. You said you disputed my claim which mean you have an evidence to prove me wrong. So again, please show me your evidence.


I'm not the one that make ridiculous because it happened to some people online due to danger of socal media. You can said it is false, but I have study about it for 16 years and have police in family.


you have not shown me any case of this being a problem. you simply said it is.

beyond that, the only problem would be if they used a stolen card to buy it first. unless you are weak willed and believe you owe that person something, there is nothing to be gained by just throwing games at people with the hopes of a return
I'm not the one that called you out am I? I'm not responsible to prove my evidence in my first comment here.
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crunchyfrog 2022년 7월 23일 오후 1시 26분 
Jamebonds1님이 먼저 게시:
crunchyfrog님이 먼저 게시:
Nope I said I don't belive your claim. The default position.

We've been over this so many times about the gumball analogy.

Disblieving a claim is simply saying "sorry I don't see any evidence of that". I t CANNOT mean I am making a contrary claim.

I'm saying "where's your evidence for YOUR claim"?

SO stop trying to twsit the burden of prroof and present the vidence for YOUR claim it's not safe. YOU said it, so you must have evidence for it right? So where is it?
Where it is? Your evidence?

kalcuey-freehk님이 먼저 게시:


you have not shown me any case of this being a problem. you simply said it is.

beyond that, the only problem would be if they used a stolen card to buy it first. unless you are weak willed and believe you owe that person something, there is nothing to be gained by just throwing games at people with the hopes of a return
I'm not the one that called you out am I? I'm not responsible to prove my evidence in my first comment here.
What claim have I made that requires evidence?
KalGimpa 2022년 7월 23일 오후 1시 28분 
Jamebonds1님이 먼저 게시:
kalcuey-freehk님이 먼저 게시:


you have not shown me any case of this being a problem. you simply said it is.

beyond that, the only problem would be if they used a stolen card to buy it first. unless you are weak willed and believe you owe that person something, there is nothing to be gained by just throwing games at people with the hopes of a return
I'm not the one that called you out am I? I'm not responsible to prove my evidence in my first comment here.


so, you just get to say so but we have to prove it.

well, i proved you wrong. there we go. you are wrong with direct proof given. unless you can prove otherwise, that they did in fact come at me for some kind of quid pro quo, you have been empirically proven wrong.
Jamebonds1 2022년 7월 23일 오후 1시 28분 
crunchyfrog님이 먼저 게시:
Jamebonds1님이 먼저 게시:
Where it is? Your evidence?


I'm not the one that called you out am I? I'm not responsible to prove my evidence in my first comment here.
What claim have I made that requires evidence?
That is for kalcuey-freehk not you.
Jamebonds1 2022년 7월 23일 오후 1시 29분 
kalcuey-freehk님이 먼저 게시:
Jamebonds1님이 먼저 게시:
I'm not the one that called you out am I? I'm not responsible to prove my evidence in my first comment here.


so, you just get to say so but we have to prove it.

well, i proved you wrong. there we go. you are wrong with direct proof given. unless you can prove otherwise, that they did in fact come at me for some kind of quid pro quo, you have been empirically proven wrong.
What source? I don't see any your.
KalGimpa 2022년 7월 23일 오후 1시 30분 
Jamebonds1님이 먼저 게시:
kalcuey-freehk님이 먼저 게시:


so, you just get to say so but we have to prove it.

well, i proved you wrong. there we go. you are wrong with direct proof given. unless you can prove otherwise, that they did in fact come at me for some kind of quid pro quo, you have been empirically proven wrong.
What source? I don't see any your.


me. that is apparently the only source we need, according to you.
Jamebonds1 2022년 7월 23일 오후 1시 31분 
kalcuey-freehk님이 먼저 게시:
Jamebonds1님이 먼저 게시:
What source? I don't see any your.


me. that is apparently the only source we need, according to you.


Okay. There you go. Now it is your turn.

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