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As Dweller mentioned above me: there's a very good reason why things are as much protected as they are, and if you check out these fora you'll soon learn why. And what would you have to trade anyway being so new and all? ;)
Just read up on the process, set up Steam guard, make sure you're protected. Easy.
https://help.steampowered.com/en/faqs/view/46A2-2B3C-95CC-8878
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I am assuming that TF2 means Team Fortress 2? That's a free game, which means that this new account may not even be able to trade at all. Features like the community market are fully geared towards Steam customers, and if you play free games... then you're not a customer. In fact, you'll have a limited account. I can't help wonder if that may be an issue here as well?
https://help.steampowered.com/en/faqs/view/71D3-35C2-AD96-AA3A
story is A person wanted crates I gave him some crates, he gave me a dual core devil doll, trade went on hold. I was clueless about the trade going on hold, checked his inventory my crates were there, checked my inventory through tf2, the dual core devil doll wasn't there.
10 minutes pass of me looking for what I got from trading. looked at my inventory through steam saw "one trade on hold" clicked it, investigated it. I wasn't scammed, I'm just dumb.
also an important note: I threw in a jarate with the crates for fun
Let me cut you off right there... and this is where people in IT security go overboard everytime they try something new... IE... I worked for a company that used on shore and off shore personnel and they wanted to 'secure the environment' they focused on restricting the few admin accounts via 2ffa, 24h password rotation, separate admin/user accounts, and other methods which while on the extreme end sound good but cause huge workflow issues... while there were many(1000+) service accounts that and admin rights... nothing done there... off shore admins(50+)... using their regular users accounts for that too...
So that's what Im getting at here... Steam, I understand that someone somewhere got scammed... understood... but while trying to prevent the 1-2% of people getting scammed... you are forking over the other 98-99% of people...
and to your point TJ... should it really be that hard trade with my own son... and should I be forced to install a second 2FFA to trade? requiring the email, OK... forcing the app... Heck no... I jump through hoops all day long at work to be able to work because of security... that shouldnt be forced on to users TRYING to play a game
https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/7/3439081454534198297/
https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/7/3476233614752066931/
https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/7/3439081454532262361/
https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/7/3439081454527573338/
That's just one day ("24 hours"), and of course it's also important to realize that not everyone will turn to these fora if they get in trouble. Heck, plenty don't even realize that they are in trouble. See, you can easily double this amount considering the fact that most people get scammed by people using.... compromised accounts.
Another thing... I have 0 issues with trading myself, and it seems these people also don't necessarily agree with you complaints:
https://steamcommunity.com/groups/tradingcards
I mean.... 1,907,164 Steam traders can't be wrong if you ask me ;)
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Question.... instead of trash talking and blaming everyone else for your annoyances, why not just ask for some help to get you fully set up? Each to their own but that would have been far more productive.
There's absolutely no shame in not fully understanding how everything works right away. And I realy understand that it can get frustrating if you simply want to "do" things and yet it doesn't work as you expected.
But mudslinging is not going to fix this, at best we'll end up in a pissing contest which doesn't benefit anyone.
So why don't you take 30 steps back, start over and tell us exactly what isn't working for you right now? Who knows, maybe someone can shed some light on it.
>Claims steam security is beyond reason
>Claims to be in the military
>Fails to note the United States military standard encryption is a Triple DES 256 Bitlock that only machines directly connected to the US military grid can access
>Gets mad about having to add a authenticator to his phone to trade
>Forgets to note that standard military laptops also have a Triple DES 256 Bitlock
>Spirit continues to wonder why someone whos from the military is unable to mentally handle a weaker encyption then he's used to.
Unwilling to wait 15 days to be able to trade.
Considering you are talking about setting up an account for your son I am going to assume that he is either very young or not good with computers because otherwise he should be able to set up an account himself, so I'd think that as a parent you'd be happy that there are so many security features in place.
In an alternate universe OP is here complaining that his son's account was hacked and it's actually do to Steams lack of security and he would now because he was IT for 20 years and also was in the military which is relevant for some reason.
https://www.businessinsider.com/steam-trading-theft-hijacking-2015-12
https://www.kaspersky.com/blog/stealing-steam-accounts/11560/
The actual restrictions have made it down to the actual figures you mention.
And that's an already travelled road. Using email for trade verification had the issue of it being also compromised the moment the user's computer was, as they shared device. Hence Steam's push to move trade verifications off to a different device.
And let's be honest, Valve has way more experience than you do. And they have way more expertise. And they have better data than your made up statistics.
Sometimes you have to learn how to use the system that currently exists, because all your wailing isn't going to result in the system you think should exist. And sputtering, "but but some other system works differently, and here's a story about some security I didn't like at some other company", really has nothing to do with anything.