Wolfmaron 29/mai./2022 às 21:05
will Steam allow MW2 2022 listed in Steam with the last COD games taking up so many hard drive space?
Cold War takes 230gb with all modes and high res installed

MW 2019 takes 182gb with all modes installed

i don't know Vanguard cause i didn't bought it

their patches are 50-80gb in size

does Steam tolerate developers not compressing their games?
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gmod takes like 50 TB if u have all workshop items
ReBoot 29/mai./2022 às 22:46 
For starters, you're assuming those are uncompressed assets. You're most certainly wrong, the last time we've seen uncompressed assets in games was around 2000.

Second, no, Valve don't police games on your behalf. Not to that extent anyway. Game publishers are expected to list requirements for a game, including space used and then it's up to you to make a decision whether to buy games or not. Valve is not your parents, you have to be your own guardian.

That said, if the store page grossly understates those requirements, feel free to report. Games get updates & patches all the time so having a game of nominally 100 GB take 112 GB, yeah that can happen. But if the game reports using 20 GB and then takes 100 GB to be played, that would be grounds for reporting.
Danny InSomnia 29/mai./2022 às 23:35 
they don't care and why should they, just look at this MoH VR game taking up 180 GB (even more for installation required)

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1402320/Medal_of_Honor_Above_and_Beyond/
Última edição por Danny InSomnia; 29/mai./2022 às 23:36
nullable 29/mai./2022 às 23:36 
Escrito originalmente por Ahriman:

does Steam tolerate developers not compressing their games?

Developers create and manage their games, not Valve. Some games take up more space than others, there's not some arbitrary size limit that needs to be enforced.

If you don't like large games, don't buy large games. If you have insufficient space and don't meet the requirements for games then you'll have to upgrade. Valve doesn't exist to project your beliefs, values, or hangups onto developers. Nor do they exist to control system requirements so people with crummy systems can play any game.

Valve serves so many games, tens of thousands of titles, and they take up so much space that another 100-300GB for the next game hardly matters. It's a drop in the bucket.
Última edição por nullable; 29/mai./2022 às 23:53
Dr.Shadowds 🐉 29/mai./2022 às 23:46 
Moaty devs normally compress download, then unpacks to be those hugs sizes, it's up to the consumer to make room for those sizes, not Steam job to police them, if haven't notice we have games easily go over 100GB+ already for years.

Steam doesn't have a reason to block anyone just because of file size.
Crazy Tiger 30/mai./2022 às 0:18 
Escrito originalmente por Ahriman:
does Steam tolerate developers not compressing their games?
Yes.

Why should Valve be concerned with the install space a game takes? It's up to the user to ensure they have the hardware to be able to play the game.
Sazzouu 30/mai./2022 às 0:38 
Storage is cheap...
In 2020 we reached a price of less than $1.00 per Gigabyte of storage (on average). Quick example my Seagate Barracudas with 4TB of storage each cost about $70 nowadays which would make a total of $1.25 per GB and they even have horsepowers that are totally irrelevant to gaming. If I want to double that amount I am sitting at $140 for 8TB which is still a laughable amount assuming that the average Gaming-PC setup notes at $1000. Besides on pre-built machines storage usually comes way cheaper than listed.
Última edição por Sazzouu; 30/mai./2022 às 0:39
ReBoot 30/mai./2022 às 0:38 
From the customer perspective, I'd rather like Valve not to police this as well. I got the dough for a large SSD and I sure as ♥♥♥♥ don't want anyone to dictate what games I'd buy on Steam on my behalf.
Viking2121 30/mai./2022 às 1:08 
I don't really care if the game is big, but I would also like the option to make the same small, I mean you can strip the campaign and other crap but its still 180GB without high res textures which I think is a bit overkill.
J4MESOX4D 30/mai./2022 às 1:59 
Concerns were raised when the file size spiralled so much on MW2019, console users were seeing the game take up more than 50% of the usable space available on their system. Even after they managed to divide up the mode portions and reduce the storage space, it still takes up a ridiculous amount and I can't see it changing for the next COD but at least we should see the option to select which ones we want installed like was eventually added on Battlenet. Campaign will probably account for a good 40% for starters.

Hopefully doing everything from the ground up again will make things different as they did get themselves into a huge pickle last time. Tiny updates that could've been made server-side were being burdened locally on the user where they'd have to download a 30gb rewrite just to play the game all because of a couple of gun stat changes for instance. If Sony and Microsoft were authorising the calamitous patching like that then don't expect Valve to do anything even if it was partially in their remit. We just gotta hope that if the game does come to Steam that it's executed in better fashion architecturally and in terms of upkeep.
Spawn of Totoro 30/mai./2022 às 7:25 
Escrito originalmente por Ahriman:
Cold War takes 230gb with all modes and high res installed

MW 2019 takes 182gb with all modes installed

i don't know Vanguard cause i didn't bought it

their patches are 50-80gb in size

does Steam tolerate developers not compressing their games?

Not sure what the issue is.

Files are compressed for transfer. ARK: Survival Evolved is about 240 GB download and takes almost 300 GB of space after download.

Games are not typically compressed on your local drive.

Valve allows any size of game. They have no reason to restrict it and the system requirements are clearly stated on the game's store page. Game sizes will simply continue to go up in size due to graphics, physics, length and many other aspects of games, especially in the "AAA" gaming space, where users tend to demand such improvements.
Dr.Shadowds 🐉 30/mai./2022 às 8:36 
Escrito originalmente por DJBreM:
Valve literally sells games on steam that don't work and they don't care, add to the fact that COD is the biggest game franchise ever and valve gets 30% per sale. They wont care if you PC blows up and kills you after it installs they will still sell the game because its earns them money.
If it's an very old game, it likely need some kind of patch, or edited file to fix game issue to run.

If you like example tell me which game, and I tell you if there a fix for it. This isn't new thing, this been known for years via Steam, AND GoG, kind of the point of community driven to fix things.
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