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DiceDsx 2021 年 12 月 22 日 上午 10:33
"This Winter Sale sucks!" Megathread
Post here your grievances about the Winter Sale.
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Sa†o 2021 年 12 月 26 日 上午 6:08 
引用自 crunchyfrog
引用自 Wolf

The smallest violin in the world is now playing for your sad story of empathy.

Stop saying 'YOU'. It only makes you look like a little spoiled brat. Entitled and you have zero clue of how great the steam sales used to be. If you want to settle for mediocre and average because you have a mediocre and average life, that's your problem but stop projecting all your issues and entitled nonsense on to me.

You are really being ridiculous. This is also a thread where the op asked for people to say their grievances. So just gtfo with your nonsense and apologetic behaviour.
Nope, I'm not being ridiculous.

I'm talking basic fact. If you can't understnad how others think or appreciate their desires, then you DEMONSRABLY lack empathy. It's a basic defintion.

The irony is you're taking it so peronally. It's just FACT.

All I'm pointing out is that others do indeed think differently, so you could try answering this simple question - "what makes YOUR tastes and desires superior to others?"
Empathy is not the ability to understand what others think...
Sociopaths and psychopaths are much better at figuring out what others think they just can't connect emotionally and feel the same excitement or sadness as they do.

You haven't provided any facts about flashsales because we don't have the reasoning behind why they were pulled off of steam when every other site selling digital media has it.
I would suspect because they could earn more money removing it by just using their size as a company as leverage, but that's just speculations.
Unlike you thought I don't present it as fact but a mere speculation.

As for the storefront that's just Steam being slow and terrible at everything they do.
Any other store I go to has some form of algorithm that sorts things into personal preferences.
The fact steam can't even hide games that I own just shows how far behind they are.
Store fronts are there to entice people not make them feel like there is no reason to even walk into theirs like Steam does.

What am I supposed to take from Steams frontstore?
"Hey our sale is Dogsh!t and you own most of the other stuff that ain't dogsh!t please go to our competitors and browse there?"
Crazy Tiger 2021 年 12 月 26 日 上午 6:23 
引用自 Duero
What am I supposed to take from Steams frontstore?
Whatever you want from it.

In the end threads and discussions like these are just time wasting anyway. Actions speak louder than words and it wouldn't surprise me if sales/revenue numbers would indicate that the sale is doing fine. Not that we get confirmation on that, but that in general goes for all stores.
Tiberius 2021 年 12 月 26 日 上午 6:42 
引用自 crunchyfrog
引用自 Sazzouu

Which is not your personal space. The store page is a promotional page of stuff Valve wants or has an agreement to put up there.

It is not intended to be customized and therefore works perfectly fine
Yup, nicely put.


They fail to realise that the whol point of having such a page is to be as WIDE as possible, not the opposite. So tags are more open and inclusive, the page in general is set up to offer MORE than you're looking for.

And that's how it should be.

Why dont you sit down and think what i've been criticizing, then reread what you just wrote?

How does putting games that I ALREADY OWN on the sale page, offer me more info on what i can and want to purchase?

Just think for a freakin minute
Tiberius 2021 年 12 月 26 日 上午 6:45 
Steam itself already has a fckin filter to filter out games that i already owned from the store page. 🤦‍♂️ i just need the same function for sale page

What tf do these steam fanboys gain from defending steam blindly like this?
RamiroRa 2021 年 12 月 26 日 上午 7:15 
Many of y wishlisted games were not on sale, or the discount wasn't what I hoped. Also the front page artwork with the yeti was rather boring and unoriginal.
Pscht 2021 年 12 月 26 日 上午 8:15 
引用自 RamiroRa
Many of y wishlisted games were not on sale, or the discount wasn't what I hoped. Also the front page artwork with the yeti was rather boring and unoriginal.
It's the Winter Sale, not the "RamiroRa's Wishlist Sale At The Prices RamiroRa Wants".
nextgengranny 2021 年 12 月 26 日 上午 10:09 
引用自 crunchyfrog
引用自 taki
I got 2 cards from Steam Discovery Queue .. that's rare or bug? :reexcited:
No, likely the usual congestion.

Ofttimes you'll do your tasks and you card won't show up, but come the next time you'll get it then. Sometimes people have had none for days then they all turn up. Never found out why this is.

I forgot about doing the Q over the holiday, & when I did it just now, I got three cards instead of one. I'm guessing I got the cards I missed, along w/ today's; if so, I appreciate it. ^^
nextgengranny 2021 年 12 月 26 日 上午 10:18 
I didn't get anything for myself on this sale, but I was able to get my Granddaughter a game she wanted, & she's already got 28 hours in it. ^^ As a bonus, the points I got for the purchase, added to those I already had, enabled me to get a nice snow globe badge, & I like the look of the craftable one, as well.

All things considered, I'd say I made out like a bandit. :winter2019coolyul:
RamiroRa 2021 年 12 月 26 日 上午 10:39 
引用自 Pscht
引用自 RamiroRa
Many of y wishlisted games were not on sale, or the discount wasn't what I hoped. Also the front page artwork with the yeti was rather boring and unoriginal.
It's the Winter Sale, not the "RamiroRa's Wishlist Sale At The Prices RamiroRa Wants".

I know, I just wondered why some games had bigger discount on Autumn Sale than the Winter one. I though the last one had the best discounts.
Deadlylag 2021 年 12 月 26 日 上午 11:22 
引用自 Paratech2008
Forgive me but IIRC the flash sales were every 8 hours a day or something similar and 3 times a day the sales changed which jarated off many people. There was at least a sale at 1:00am est. Not a lot of people wanted to stay up that long...

GOG has flash sales lasting a few days,2 IIRC, and send out time limited coupons on occasion.

Flash sales was good in terms of getting people coming back to the store page. With that gone less people have incentives to keep looking at the store page. Steam went cheap with the free cards and other freebie stuffs so there even less incentives to go to the store page everyday.
最后由 Deadlylag 编辑于; 2021 年 12 月 26 日 上午 11:24
Mrstique 2021 年 12 月 26 日 下午 1:20 
The discounts are disappointing IMHO, but that has been the case with the last few 'big' seasonal sales.

I've picked up a few indie titles myself, but there has been next to no purchases by anyone on my friends list and that includes someone who only set up their account a couple of months ago.

This is their first 'big' sale and like me, they haven't found much of interest as the discounts are so lacklustre.

I know people say "... well Steam doesn't set the prices" but it seems unlikely that almost all developers en masse decided to significantly reduce the discounts offered during these events at the same time and therefore I have to assume that some common factor had a voice in that decision.

At the end of the day, how Steam chooses to run its sales is ultimately up to them as are the discounts the developers decide to apply during these events...

... that said, I do know that back in the day, my activity feed used to be filled with activity during these sales and I do miss the more vibrant and energetic mood the winter/summer sales used to generate.
Crazy Tiger 2021 年 12 月 26 日 下午 2:08 
I personally haven't bought anything (got 1 game gifted), also didn't buy anything in the Autumn and Halloween sale. But that's because I want to focus on my backlog and has nothing to do with the discounts offered or the events themselves. I never cared much for the events, to be honest.

引用自 Mrstique
but it seems unlikely that almost all developers en masse decided to significantly reduce the discounts offered during these events at the same time
If I check the price history through Steamdb for games on my wishlist that doesn't seem to be true.
Disco Elysium - Never had a better price on Steam
Spiritfarer - lowest price on Steam matched
Warhammer 40K Inquisitor - Same price as every sale this year
Interstellar Space: Genesis - Same discount as the past 1,5 year during sales
Hypnospace Outlaw - never had a better price on Steam
Steamworld Quest Hand of Gilgamech - lowest price for the game on Steam matched
Final Fantasy 13, 13-2 and Lightning returns - all 3 same discounted price as every sales moment
Ys Seven - same discounted price as every sales moment
Crying suns - same price as the Halloween and Autumn sale, lowest price for the game on Steam
Loop Hero - same price as the previous sales since October
Warhammer 40K Mechanicus - same price as the Autumn sale, which is the lowest sale price on Steam
The Dungeon of Naheulbeuk - Never had a better price on Steam
Octopath Traveler - Same discount as the past 1,5 year during sales
Hand of Fate 2 - Never had a better price on Steam
Age of Wonders Planetfall - same discount price as every sale since the winter sale 2020
For the King - same price as all sales moments since June

There are more with the same pattern. There are also games like The Banner Saga, Iron Marines, Templar Battleforce and Return of the Obra Dinn which have had better discounts inbetween big events.
So it doesn't seem to be true that "almost all developers en masse decided to significantly reduce the discounts offered during these events at the same time" and it seems rather plausible that different developers/publishers simply have different pricing strategies.
RPG Gamer Man 2021 年 12 月 26 日 下午 9:40 
I wonder where my other post went, but i am upset that the square enix games i want are not on sale. Perhaps they are too new, but they been out for half a year so far. I was hoping for the sale it would be better discount, but not very much at 10%. Thanks for reading.
Fletch 2021 年 12 月 26 日 下午 10:03 
I don't normally like moaning about sales and I haven't posted a complaint about them since I been on steam (10 years).

This year however it is simply boring. I miss the sales where there was something fun to do, even if they were lame little jobs.

I know the main thing about a sale is the discounts, but it felt fun doing random stuff with the community.
Mrstique 2021 年 12 月 27 日 上午 12:35 
引用自 Crazy Tiger
I personally haven't bought anything (got 1 game gifted), also didn't buy anything in the Autumn and Halloween sale. But that's because I want to focus on my backlog and has nothing to do with the discounts offered or the events themselves. I never cared much for the events, to be honest.

引用自 Mrstique
but it seems unlikely that almost all developers en masse decided to significantly reduce the discounts offered during these events at the same time
If I check the price history through Steamdb for games on my wishlist that doesn't seem to be true.
Disco Elysium - Never had a better price on Steam
Spiritfarer - lowest price on Steam matched
Warhammer 40K Inquisitor - Same price as every sale this year
Interstellar Space: Genesis - Same discount as the past 1,5 year during sales
Hypnospace Outlaw - never had a better price on Steam
Steamworld Quest Hand of Gilgamech - lowest price for the game on Steam matched
Final Fantasy 13, 13-2 and Lightning returns - all 3 same discounted price as every sales moment
Ys Seven - same discounted price as every sales moment
Crying suns - same price as the Halloween and Autumn sale, lowest price for the game on Steam
Loop Hero - same price as the previous sales since October
Warhammer 40K Mechanicus - same price as the Autumn sale, which is the lowest sale price on Steam
The Dungeon of Naheulbeuk - Never had a better price on Steam
Octopath Traveler - Same discount as the past 1,5 year during sales
Hand of Fate 2 - Never had a better price on Steam
Age of Wonders Planetfall - same discount price as every sale since the winter sale 2020
For the King - same price as all sales moments since June

There are more with the same pattern. There are also games like The Banner Saga, Iron Marines, Templar Battleforce and Return of the Obra Dinn which have had better discounts inbetween big events.
So it doesn't seem to be true that "almost all developers en masse decided to significantly reduce the discounts offered during these events at the same time" and it seems rather plausible that different developers/publishers simply have different pricing strategies.

Wow! What eclectic taste you have. I'm very pleased for you that you can get some good discounts, but most of those games aren't for me. Although, it's a shame about Loop Hero because I got that free the other day on Epic. Also, Disco Elysium is the same price on Epic but you get an extra coupon for money off as well - making it a much bigger discount.

There are other games on there like Red Dead Redemption 2 and Cyberpunk which, with the added coupon are the lowest prices I've ever seen. So if developers can offer good prices on other games launchers then you would think that would translate across all of them?!?

For me, the big seasonal sales used to really feel like a true community event, with Steam itself being as much a part of that community as the players themselves.

Now Steam has become just another storefront selling its wares, trusting that blind brand loyalty will be sufficient enough to blinker its player base to the simple fact that better deals are out there.

I see people (like yourself) citing the 'great' Steam discounts on games like Loop Hero (40% off) when (as I said previously) they could have had it for free on Epic.

Another game I mentioned, Disco Elysium works out significantly cheaper once you deduct the voucher they offer on their site.

These are single player titles so who cares what platform you play it on?

At the end of the day, anyone can paint a picture that suits their own rhetoric if they are going to select only games that they believe illustrate their own point, but even allowing for that, I've easily demonstrated the point I was making using those examples you yourself gave.

Outside of other DRM's, you've got multiple sites offering actual Steam keys at significantly lower prices than Steam is offering during their biggest annual event and going back only a few years, that simply wasn't the case.

The old Steam felt like it was a true advocate of PC gaming.

These last few years, they've felt like just another provider, relying on brand loyalty above actual engagement to drive their bottom line.
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