Questions about Israel currency change from USD to ILS.

[Vash Baldeus]

Some games since the change are not available to purchase.

I.E COD WW2, GTA V, Undertale .. Just some games I noticed.. Why is that, before the change we could buy those no problem..

[LUX]

Messaggio originale di Skaylor:

Hey, some publishers listened! Call of Duty WW2 now costs ₪176.00 which is less than 60$

I wish other publishers do so as well.

they dident listen its only the DLC not the game!
the game dosent have a price yet!

[Rogat]

Messaggio originale di Meliodas:

Messaggio originale di Skaylor:

Hey, some publishers listened! Call of Duty WW2 now costs ₪176.00 which is less than 60$

I wish other publishers do so as well.

they dident listen its only the DLC not the gane!

Omg... !@#$%!@%!@% areselocher!

[LUX]

Messaggio originale di Skaylor:

Messaggio originale di Meliodas:

they dident listen its only the DLC not the gane!

Omg... !@#$%!@%!@% areselocher!

what did you say? loll

[Rogat]

Messaggio originale di Meliodas:

Messaggio originale di Skaylor:

Omg... !@#$%!@%!@% areselocher!

what did you say? loll

It's German for ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥

[SchnitziLad]

Messaggio originale di Skaylor:

Messaggio originale di Meliodas:

they dident listen its only the DLC not the gane!

Omg... !@#$%!@%!@% areselocher!

Yeah, it seems like we can't buy it at all, and yet we can buy the season pass.
Yet another result of the chaos from splitting to regions.

[Rogat]

Messaggio originale di BaerSLK:

Messaggio originale di Skaylor:

It's German for ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥

Its not german.

Don't lecture me about German.

[D0OMZDAYZ]

Messaggio originale di BRTDRedMadErez:

Even if we will get better prices on some, Remember it is Israel. Not every publisher out there is gonna opt to check and price it currectly. So games will "reach" Israel later then other places, just because of pricing.
Even worse, some game you won't see if not priced on steam.
I think the USD convertion rate was fair. 3.5-4 NIS to 1 USD

Not to mention politics... Can you imagine the "New Israeli Shekel" shout against and damand for PLO currency pricing now on Steam?
Israel is REALLY the LAST place you want to start dealing with all of the defenitions.

Just you wait, Soon it is going to be #FreePaleSteam
I joke but you know it's coming

It makes zero sense why Israel Steam users should be charged more. Especially compared to Americans.

Israel GDP (2017) = $339.990 Billion
Israel GDP per Capita (2017) = $39,125

United States GDP (2016) = $18.56 TRILLION
United States GDP per Capita (2016) = $57,436

Sources:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_the_United_States
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Israel

It seems to me Valve and/or publishers just looked at the name Israel and said to themselves "Oh they probably have lots of money".

[LUX]

anyway... nothing is moving i think we should spam and send a lot of msg to steam support and let them know how many ppl is suffering cause of this

[MadErez]

Messaggio originale di BaerSLK:

Did you know that 25 Schekels are just 6€ or 7$?
You guys all prove that the old saying "Israelis are so greedy" is absolute true lol.
Just wait for a sale, there are so many over the year, if the 25 Schekels are such big thing for you guys.
PS: I give this ammount of money as tip in night clubs & discos.

Did you know:
Israel monthly minmum wage is $2,572 USD
US average monthly salary $3,769 USD

Yet we are cheap because we don't want to pay MORE on the same thing, someone who makes MORE then us will pay LESS for.

But we got something else much bigger then yours so.. It's OK..

[999999999]

Messaggio originale di Meliodas:

anyway... nothing is moving i think we should spam and send a lot of msg to steam support and let them know how many ppl is suffering cause of this

Support can NOT do anything about this. That will just waste their time and all the others needing REAL support.

Messaggio originale di BRTDRedMadErez:

But we got something else much bigger then yours so.. It's OK..

Yeah, noses. lol

[Nihil]

Messaggio originale di Meliodas:

anyway... nothing is moving i think we should spam and send a lot of msg to steam support and let them know how many ppl is suffering cause of this

Yeah I am soo angry that many games are now unavaliable in Poland. Its a joke.

[Rogat]

Messaggio originale di Keiichi66:

Messaggio originale di Meliodas:

anyway... nothing is moving i think we should spam and send a lot of msg to steam support and let them know how many ppl is suffering cause of this

Yeah I am soo angry that many games are now unavaliable in Poland. Its a joke.

Poland and Israel should unite against the publishers.

[Black Blade]

Messaggio originale di BRTDRedMadErez:

Funny how many of you are Steam fanboys and ar OK with you being treated badly. You have fun. If oyu like being mistreated fine. Also, if you work for steam, fine. I am going to stop using their service and I was a highly paying customer. It is Steam's loss buttom line. This move will give them loss. If they care or not a bout such a marginal profit from Israel is a while other thing. But you bring down your community members on Steam, and when you will be mistreated you will have no one to fight for you. What goes around comes around.

Waze was bought to take down the competition. Waze is in NO WAY worth over a billion dollars. But the risk of their growing company was bigger. Fact is, Waze was not implemanted or used in any way since then. Plus, Google maps "worked" in Israel. It didn't WORK in Israel. You can try yourself to navigate in "Hebrew-English" TO places with inaccurate spelling and location and no real time events as blocked areas or traffic jams. Even travling somewhere was politicly effected so to travel to Israel, Jerusalem was a problem but iti s no place for politics.

And you all, can defend this way of treating customers, but once a better customer treatment platform will be up you will all run to it and praise and bless it for it's customer service and care, and you all know it. So see you when you start using one and I will say "I told you so"

First of all Waze and Google Maps where not competing on anything, plus google maps did not work in the start is correct but Google did not buy them to fix Israel, that's not worth the money they spend to buy it + Google all ready fixed that before they got waze (i used both for a while now, and Google worked just fine for me for a while before they got waze)

Second of all read the comments, you can always go with the "Steam fanboys" on anything that disagree with you, or in these case does not think your way is the only way, there was honestly no "Fanboyism" going on around here at all, except maybe one you decide that exist out of fine air
You want to go buy elsewhere go ahead, nothing will ever stop you, i think its best to buy where its the best price, and Valve is not going to turn these back i think as long as you cant really give them a good reason, same with changing the prices for pub and dev, you need to really get a group on that, and as long as users keep buying from the pub and devs that set these prices they have no reason to lower the prices or anything else

Messaggio originale di Start_Running:

Yeah, see this is what happens when steam adds a local currency and this is done due to external pressures both from other gamers who are idiots and from the regional authorities. The issue is that this shifts the burden of conversion to the publisher./receiver as opposed to the payer.

There is a fee for currency conversion but this is generallyy discounted by volume. I.e the more of these thinbgs you do, the cheaper each transaction becomes. Banks do hundreds of thousands if not millions of such transactions daily so their fee per conversion is low. The publisher on the other hand as an entity see s far fewer of these so does mot benefit from the same discounts.

Then there is security. When US publishers set prices in foreign currency they do it in a way to ensure that they will always get AT LEAST the same amount they get in US currency. The forex market is a volatile one and it can shift quite a bit from day to day., so they generally raise the price so in the off chance that the currency weakens much, they don't take a loss.

Now I'm sure you're thinking why not just have the rate apply on the fly when the buyer views the page. Two problems. Wehen I said the rates fluctuate, they can fluctuate by the hour, secondly it would create an annoying amount of uncertainty to have the prices shifting every day, much less every hour. So they set I high watermark with their price. Something they know that barring an unprecedented sudden spike or decline in the currency, that they will not have to change or adujust within three-six months.

So in short. it's the reality that comes with having to deal with currency conversion. Not to mention the various taxes and local statutes in regards to the display of pricing.

I don't think you are correct on that, i cant see Valve pay the publisher/devs in local currency that paid for the game, they will give them it maybe in dollars all the time, and Valve will be the one convertingi the money, doing so much that as you said will be low for them
Also that they get the same as the US pricing is just what?
They will set it to fit the contry for each contry what you want is to set the gold price, the price that the user will be able to aford as many as your games as possible, but just enugth that they spend as much as possible on these games, and not see it too high to make it not worth it, or too low that will get them to lose on it
Getting local curency means that you can set a price that will change with the currency change of that local currency so you can set as close as possible once, and then it will keep with what they have as it changes

[Geeschier]

Messaggio originale di BaerSLK:

Messaggio originale di BRTDRedMadErez:

Did you know:
Israel monthly minmum wage is $2,572 USD
US average monthly salary $3,769 USD

Yet we are cheap because we don't want to pay MORE on the same thing, someone who make MORE then us will pay LESS for.

But we got something else much bigger then yours so.. It's OK..

Wow you calculated the US average by the rich northern region and left out the west & southern.
What you have something bigger then me? Yes greed, you got the most, biggest greed of all, I admit.
I would be ashamed if I would scream for average 5$ difference in this respectless way like you guys do here.

I would be ashamed if i would say that israelis are greedy because some people complain about having to pay more for their games.

[Yeff]

Messaggio originale di BRTDRedMadErez:

SMALL countries as Israel and Poland are NOT the EU US or UK. Steam changed to NIS\ILS. Why? Was it for their customer benifit and ease of buying with local currency?
Well, If their customer is what they care about let us buy as US like it always was. Why change it?
Putting the blame of publishers is BS. I don't give an F about the publisher. It is Steam responsibility to give their customer the comfort of use, and they can not roll responsibility over to publisher. I blame STEAM and STEAM is going to suffer loss of income because of it. So it is STEAM's problem. The publishers will get their money when I buy throught other options online.
What the hack, I am from F'ing Israel. I'm starting my new Start-Up to go aginst steam. When you F us with will found our own solution if you don't. We don't shy out of hard work.
Having a FAIR retail platform where everyone pay THE SAME with FAIR currency conversion is not rocket science.

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