Questions about Israel currency change from USD to ILS.

[Vash Baldeus]

Some games since the change are not available to purchase.

I.E COD WW2, GTA V, Undertale .. Just some games I noticed.. Why is that, before the change we could buy those no problem..

[Best4Gamers]

we gonna buy it from humble . fok this sht

[Rogat]

If more major publishers like Paradox and Activision are going to set a normal price tag, hopefully it will create a chain reaction of other publishers doing it too.

[999999999]

I think Valve makes enough from the market as it is. It is ok to shop elsewhere.

[SEVERUS SNAPE]

WOW... So now I will be not able to use $ on Steam at all?! Screw this! I'm not going to purchase anything here even if it will be on 99% sale... Steam acts like a bully! Instead of making comfortable service for clietns, they are just forcing us to use their new things which we aren't used to... We need petition on change.org, guys!

[Ash]

Цитата допису Skaylor:

Currently the publishers I know that set normal prices are: Paradox, BANDAI NAMCO Entertainment (Dark Souls) and CD PROJEKT RED (Witcher Series), and of course many other indie developers.

Those games you can safely buy at Steam.

My definition of normal price differs here, dark souls 3 base game only sells for 84 USD. That is way too expensive for me

[Black Blade]

First guys, can we stop with the "Racisim", "Antisemitism" and the like? we are not the only country that got stuff like these, and it mostly like just as they don't know how to price it

So what we can do I think is build a list, find what Pubs did it by what we assume is Valve recommended price that is around 5% increase or the like from what I hear around here, and who decide their own price, and from them what once really went overboard
Second, find as much info as possible on how someone is supposed to price things in Isreal, it is their job, but as it seems they either not interested in doing it, or just don't know how to do it, so if someone has maybe someone they know that can help with how to work that out, please do ask, showing some hard numbers can really help the case here

When we have some numbers and have some stats to show we can start moving on, adding to that spread the message around, let friends know, as some may not notice, and thinking everyone will notice is not a good idea, keep it been talked, we need to rise it to the daily talk around, we need these to be clear that is it's an issue, we do need to make sure that Pub and Devs see that there is huge amount of players not going to buy on their prices if they are not setting them right

Also as long as anyone post here, there is a public area for all of Steam, from Isreal and not from Isreal, if someone has an issue with that they can go post on a private area we cant block anyone from posting here (as long as they are not passing the rules and then get ban or deleted) but on any case you don't want to do that, if you get people outside of the country to talk about overpricing that can help, we want to make sure the Devs hear us right and fix it, and that will happen if they hear a clear voice, not a hundred voice shaoting each with there own thing, we need to unite under what we want, that I think is price that fits are contry

Цитата допису groch11:

Interesting how much %% takes humble and other 3rd party key reselers. May be publishers just do not want us to buy their games on steam and that is their way to do it.
Any way from my side I am not going to give a shekel to valve and all high pricing publishers and will find a way to get their games for free. Its not personal, just a business :)

Most likely they take around the same amount, overall anyhow it's most likely around 30% that is pretty much the common take, but overall they do talk it over, Valve does as well so some may have gotten some better deals, so or so its as much as i know so far always under agreement that its not allowed to be talked about

[PhantasosK]

I agree. I'm from Israel too and many prices now are inconsistent and some are significantly higher. I used to love Steam, bought a lot of games and been a loyal customer for many years. The recent change in currency and prices is absolutely disgusting.

I should not be paying more for Steam games just because I'm from Israel.

You have lost a long time customer today. I won't make any more purchases on the Steam store.

[PhantasosK]

Long time customer here. I am leaving Steam today, here's why.

Six years ago, I have first made my account on Steam. It was due not only for the large amount of video games avaliable on the Steam store, but mostly for its good, fair prices in comprasion to other alternatives.

About a week ago, Steam introduced a change in currency for Israeli customers from USD to ILS. For people in living Israel, the prices that used to be consistent and fair, now have made a sharp rise in cost and inconsistency.

Notable examples would be:

GTA V -

http://store.steampowered.com/app/271590/Grand_Theft_Auto_V/

Originally 60$, now is ₪350 for Israeli customers, which is the equivalent of 99$.

Injustice 2 -

http://store.steampowered.com/app/627270/Injustice_2/

Originally 49.99$, now is ₪239 for Israeli customers, which is the equivalent of 67.99$.

This is absolutely an unfair, disgraceful, discriminating treatment to your customers. I SHOULD NOT be paying more for video games on the Steam store, just because I'm from Israel.

I have contacted Steam support and they have offered no solution, therefore today for the first time I'm leaving the Steam store and will not make any more purchases. Thank you for your service.

Greed is truly mankind's downfall. For any other Israeli customers, or others who were affected by change of Steam currency and other reasons, I recommend you to do the same.

[Agent]

Simply put, if Steam wants my business, They'll have to revert the store back to USD.

If they don't want to, it's their loss, I'll simply buy my games from alternative storefronts.

Sure, it's the publisher's job to set the price of their games, but Steam is the one allowing them to do so in the first place, in addition even if the prices were identical to USD but in shekels, and kept constantly up to date with the latest conversion rates, I would still prefer the games to be displayed in USD seeing as I spent 10+ years discussing software and hardware prices exclusively in dollars, despite living in Israel it's difficult to gauge the value of shekels, it makes everything seem too expensive.

I understand it's Valve we're talking about, and they will likely never revert their decision, so all I can do is hope that no other Israeli spends even a single NIS buying directly from Steam, and instead opt in for alternative storefronts, Perhaps one day Valve will realize this decision has caused them to lose business.

[don]

Okay bye, one steam customer!

[VonBrenck]

Buy the keys from any other source, my dude - fling some doodie back at them.

[Buck]

Publishers set the prices. Steam only offers a template

[Rogat]

Цитата допису "The Spectacular" Agent:

Simply put, if Steam wants my business, They'll have to revert the store back to USD.

If they don't want to, it's their loss, I'll simply buy my games from alternative storefronts.

Sure, it's the publisher's job to set the price of their games, but Steam is the one allowing them to do so in the first place, in addition even if the prices were identical to USD but in shekels, and kept constantly up to date with the latest conversion rates, I would still prefer the games to be displayed in USD seeing as I spent 10+ years discussing software and hardware prices exclusively in dollars, despite living in Israel it's difficult to gauge the value of shekels, it makes everything seem too expensive.

I understand it's Valve we're talking about, and they will likely never revert their decision, so all I can do is hope that no other Israeli spends even a single NIS buying directly from Steam, and instead opt in for alternative storefronts, Perhaps one day Valve will realize this decision has caused them to lose business.

No, we should buy from publishers on Steam that set normal or lower prices and simply ignore inflated prices.

That will set the message to other publishers who will eventually reduce the price tag like the ones who did.

[PhantasosK]

Цитата допису Day4Rave LOOT.Farm:

Okay bye, one steam customer!

When your 60$ games will one day start costing 99$, you will surely come here to complain. Put yourself in my position.

Цитата допису PCP_Select:

Publishers set the prices. Steam only offers a template

As a customer, this is none of my business. All I know is that now I need to pay a lot more for the same product, and that people who are paying for it in USD are getting much more reasonable prices. I have made many purchases in USD in the past, no reason why I shouldn't be able to do the same now. This is nothing but greediness, no matter how you look at it.

Цитата допису Emperor of W/R "jemdeme eur":

my friend, buy the keys of sites like G2A, the international ones work everywere.

Цитата допису VonBrenck:

Buy the keys from any other source, my dude - fling some doodie back at them.

Thank you for your advice.

[Buck]

Цитата допису PhantasosK:

Цитата допису Day4Rave LOOT.Farm:

Okay bye, one steam customer!

When your 60$ games will one day start costing 99$, you will surely come here to complain. Put yourself in my position.

Цитата допису PCP_Select:

Publishers set the prices. Steam only offers a template

As a customer, this is none of my business. All I know is that now I need to pay a lot more for the same product, and that people who are paying for it in USD are getting much more reasonable prices. I have made many purchases in USD in the past, no reason why I shouldn't be able to do the same now. This is nothing but greediness, no matter how you look at it.

Цитата допису Emperor of W/R "jemdeme eur":

my friend, buy the keys of sites like G2A, the international ones work everywere.

Цитата допису VonBrenck:

Buy the keys from any other source, my dude - fling some doodie back at them.

Thank you for your advice.

Still.. complain in the game's forums. Valve doesnt set the prices at all.

Edit: And buying keys from an unauthorized third party website is a very very bad idea