Questions about Israel currency change from USD to ILS.

[Vash Baldeus]

Some games since the change are not available to purchase.

I.E COD WW2, GTA V, Undertale .. Just some games I noticed.. Why is that, before the change we could buy those no problem..

[Pink]

I see nothing wrong with your statements.
That doesn't change anything about being a smart shopper though.

So by DEFAULT - as long as ILS currency remains, games in ILS will NEVER be the cheapest available. That's a fact proven by a site that keeps track of all deals for all games.

So yeah, if you don't mind paying more for your purchases then go ahead, I and many others certainly won't.

[Black Blade]

Początkowo opublikowane przez MalikQayum:

I already told you that i agree with valve is not the cheapest source always but that does not change the fact that valve reserve the rights to be either the cheapest or match the cheapest price.

the consequence of not doing this means no key generation in the future as they have not upheld their agreement with valve so key generation will be refused.

so yes you might get away with selling 5000 copies via steam keys cheaper than the steam store page but that will eventually mean that valve wont grant you another 5000 keys to sell, this has become restrictive the past year or so and we will probably see valve slowly enforcing this and making an impact as alot of devs are making revenue through keys they now have to be careful to not undercut the very store that is making them.

(again i will not deny that there are games sold cheaper on other sites, be that from the dev themselves or from bundle sites or from bundle buyers that resell their keys but in either case they will most likely not be able to generate more keys after that and they would killed their key generation for short term money which is never a good thing.)

Pretty sure these will not be considered as its not by much and as it has all the thing with conversion its not really fair to say there lower there then here, i cant see Valve doing anything on the devs for these

[De Selby]

Really disappointing.

One day I've got access to almost the entire Steam catalog at a reasonable price, and the next day half of my wishlist is unavailable while the other half had a price hike of 8 to 40 precent.

To me this means that if I'll buy anything from Steam it'll only be during big sales and when the price drops significantly.

[KingEli]

Just take a look at the OP it says nothing about the real problems with this new system that this thread is all about but Steam stupid moderators chose this thread as the main and mereged all threads complaining about this, do you guys honestly think steam and their idiotic staff give a flying ♥♥♥♥ about this?! guess again.

[Firkin]

Początkowo opublikowane przez ✡KINGELI✡:

Just take a look at the OP it says nothing about the real problems with this new system that this thread is all about but Steam stupid moderators chose this thread as the main and mereged all threads complaining about this, do you guys honestly think steam and their idiotic staff give a flying ♥♥♥♥ about this?! guess again.

Mind your language. Critisizm is fine, as long as it is respectful. Your opinions are only as good as your ability to properly explain them.

[Or]

Also prices have raised by 7-22%.
Its more expensive although Valave support team said it'll only exchange to shekels with no extra costs.
Hope to see it addressed by Black Friday.
Prices should have been the same but just in shekels.
Right now I prefer to buy CD Keys.

[Triselbur]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Black Blade:

Początkowo opublikowane przez horheristo:

אנטישמי זאת לא קללה.
קורא לילד בשמו, אתה מוזמן לא להסכים. תחסוך ממני את האיומים.
בכלל אולי כדאי שלא תגיב לי יותר, בחיים שלי לא קראתי תגובות יותר מאוסות בסטים מהתגובות שלך.

ואתה מוזמן לא להגיב
אבל אני ארצה לדעת אז מה בדיוק אתה כן עושה פה? לפי מה שאתה אומר אתה לא מעוניין לעזור לעשות משהו בעניין או שאתה כן ולא הבנתי?
כך או כך לא יודע בן כמה אתה ובאמת שזה לא משנה לי, אבל זה כזה משהו של ילד קטן לומר שזה לא נאמר כאלבון ברצינות זה היה תקיפה ושום דבר אחר

בקצרה בוא לו נריב או נתקיף אחד את השני זה לא עוזר לאף אחד, לא לנושא ולא לשום דבר אחר ורק יגרור נעלה של הפוסט

Początkowo opublikowane przez horheristo:

That's all fine and sweet.
But we as the customers simply don't care about the details and how it "has always been".

Steam lost the Israeli market which isn't willing to accept these changes.
Everyone else accepts it? good for them.

The Israel market, you know you are not alone ya? and you really think these are what will lose the Israel market? you think every one stop buying? be realistic

Good point, but for all the wrong reasons. The fact that we're not alone in this is exactly why Steam should have thought this through more carefully. Every single person I've talked to on Steam and IRL who lives in Israel has been impacted by this. Every single person I've asked whether they will continue to purchase games off Steam has answered with a resounding "no". They wanted to force change upon the Israeli market without considering its customers, who already pay outrageously exorbitant prices for other goods and services? Well, what they got was a backlash which has reverberated across the entire community, and lost them an entire market sector. Yes, the Israeli market is tiny compared to the big fish like the US and Europe, but it's still there and until a few days ago, it had a thriving, if modest, community.

You see, unlike other goods and services which are sold in Israel at a premium, gamers here do have alternatives for purchasing their favorite PC games. That, coupled with the age-old Israeli/Jewish mentality of not wanting to be made a "freier/sucker", means that Steam really screwed the pooch on this one.

[KingEli]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Firkin:

Początkowo opublikowane przez ✡KINGELI✡:

Just take a look at the OP it says nothing about the real problems with this new system that this thread is all about but Steam stupid moderators chose this thread as the main and mereged all threads complaining about this, do you guys honestly think steam and their idiotic staff give a flying ♥♥♥♥ about this?! guess again.

Mind your language. Critisizm is fine, as long as it is respectful. Your opinions are only as good as your ability to properly explain them.

Don’t try to educate me boy I spent more than 2k on my steam account I have every right to vent when I’m being screwed over.

[Pink]

Początkowo opublikowane przez ✡KINGELI✡:

Początkowo opublikowane przez Firkin:

Mind your language. Critisizm is fine, as long as it is respectful. Your opinions are only as good as your ability to properly explain them.

Don’t try to educate me boy I spent more than 2k on my steam account I have every right to vent when I’m being screwed over.

+1
Tired of seeing foreigners posting here.
We're not like you people, we'll never be like you, or want to be like you.

When we get screwed over like this, that's how we react.
Go through the whole thread, a lot of people here totally lost their ♥♥♥♥ over this. One thing we cannot accept in Israel is being made suckers. And yes, we will be aggressive about it.

[Black Blade]

Początkowo opublikowane przez ✡KINGELI✡:

Just take a look at the OP it says nothing about the real problems with this new system that this thread is all about but Steam stupid moderators chose this thread as the main and mereged all threads complaining about this, do you guys honestly think steam and their idiotic staff give a flying ♥♥♥♥ about this?! guess again.

They did it as it was the first, if the first will have given full details and info it will have been merged to that and OP can edit his post to help if he wishes, and i do recommend it

Początkowo opublikowane przez ✡KINGELI✡:

Don’t try to educate me boy I spent more than 2k on my steam account I have every right to vent when I’m being screwed over.

Vent as you wish, but stay respectful is a good way to not great a tread locked

Początkowo opublikowane przez horheristo:

+1
Tired of seeing foreigners posting here.
We're not like you people, we'll never be like you, or want to be like you.

When we get screwed over like this, that's how we react.
Go through the whole thread, a lot of people here totally lost their ♥♥♥♥ over this. One thing we cannot accept in Israel is being made suckers. And yes, we will be aggressive about it.

Can you please not try to cut it to us and them? its really not relevant here, even more when Israel is not alone on the matter

[SchnitziLad]

Considering Poland and Ukraine are also complaining, it's not just an isolated matter, but a wide result of the currency change.
Whenever a new system of such magnitude is put in place, there are bound to be problems. Our best chance to influence a change in the pricing scheme is now, when it's still fresh.

The developer who said that they (Valve) exchanged 1USD to 3.75ILS gave us valuable information - it's simply too much. Even with the exchange taxes, today it is 3.63ILS. Putting it at 3.6 or 3.65 would've been far better with consumers than the exaggarated 3.75.
It seems ridiculous that developers would have to manually insert different prices for all regions, considering the fluctuation of global currency, but that's another issue.

Furthermore, there is a serious issue with games that had their prices set based on Euros instead of Dollars, thus compounding the problem with prices that are significantly higher than before. A Euro is worth 118% of a dollar, so you're looking at an almost 20% increase in price for some products. Such a price is not competitive with other online stores.

We'd like to see those problems rectified, because in the end we'd all like to give Valve money. If a publisher (possibly by accident) puts up a huge price increase, and doesn't make any sales, then nobody wins.

[Beans]

Don't use steam store, it hasn't been worth it for a very long time unless in certain occasions (winter/summer sales etc..)

[Spongebobsquarepants]

so sad

[Firkin]

Początkowo opublikowane przez horheristo:

Początkowo opublikowane przez ✡KINGELI✡:

Don’t try to educate me boy I spent more than 2k on my steam account I have every right to vent when I’m being screwed over.

+1
Tired of seeing foreigners posting here.
We're not like you people, we'll never be like you, or want to be like you.

When we get screwed over like this, that's how we react.
Go through the whole thread, a lot of people here totally lost their ♥♥♥♥ over this. One thing we cannot accept in Israel is being made suckers. And yes, we will be aggressive about it.

What makes you think I'm a foreigner? I'm israeli, otherwise I wouldn't care how other israelis act on public forums. I've also been an active steam customer, and I'm just as upset as you are about this. I have previously posted in this thread, and sent serveral emails to steam support. I, also, don't intend to buy anything until this matter is resolved.

Venting and using foul language are not the same. Your words are better heard when you act politely. Rage like a gentleman. ;)

במילים אחרות, אל תהיו מביכים.
אתם רוצים שהשרשור הזה יקבל את תשומת הלב שמגיעה לו מהמפתחים ומסטים? זו בטח לא הדרך

[KingEli]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Firkin:

Początkowo opublikowane przez horheristo:

+1
Tired of seeing foreigners posting here.
We're not like you people, we'll never be like you, or want to be like you.

When we get screwed over like this, that's how we react.
Go through the whole thread, a lot of people here totally lost their ♥♥♥♥ over this. One thing we cannot accept in Israel is being made suckers. And yes, we will be aggressive about it.

What makes you think I'm a foreigner? I'm israeli, otherwise I wouldn't care how other israelis act on public forums. I've also been an active steam customer, and I'm just as upset as you are about this. I have previously posted in this thread, and sent serveral emails to steam support. I, also, don't intend to buy anything until this matter is resolved.

Venting and using foul language are not the same. Your words are better heard when you act politely. Rage like a gentleman. ;)

במילים אחרות, אל תהיו מביכים.
אתם רוצים שהשרשור הזה יקבל את תשומת הלב שמגיעה לו מהמפתחים ומסטים? זו בטח לא הדרך

שמע אם אתה חושב שהשרשור הזה ישנה משהו אז אתה טועה אנשים מפרסמים פה נטו בשביל לפרוק עצבים.
מנסיון העבר שלי עם חברות בסדר גודל כזה מי שמצפה שיצא משהו מפורום טוחן מים רק תביעה משפטית יכולה להזיז למישהו בסטים ואין כאן לאף אחד את הכוח או האמצעים לארגן תביעה ייצוגית.