is steam considered social media..

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36 minutes ago — Mining billionaire says world-first prosecution aims to prevent Australians being scammed through clickbait advertising on social media.



advertising scams in steam profile names
vs facebook clickbait scams
very similar scams

has the amount of non refunded steam items ever been totally valued
and are these items still circulated by the thieves or do these items get deleted...


Australia can be funny with laws....
and if this guy wins his "criminal action case"
which is based in money laundering scams
using his face in the click bait scam advertising
then
what are the implications for everyone else..


is steam considered social media..

[my new friend]

Originally posted by ragefifty50:

is steam considered social media..

Can Australia consider it one, sure. They've been known to go after Valve before.

[MoonC A T]

I would say definitely...YES. The whole purpose is to get a bunch of people together to game together, add people to their friends list, form groups, etc.

[Zac Starfire]

Lots of people have level 0 accounts with little or no games, only to seem just use Steam to post junk they are interested in. So ya, I'd say it is a social media platform.

[Edifier]

Facebook actually have ads on people profiles.
Facebook make money on this because they supply with the ad.

With Steam, the community is entirely user generated. Valve does not put ads anywhere on the community so that won't be an issue.

People who have stolen other people items is still the persons fault. Steam have tried to give a lot of security but it often happens when the user logs in on weird site and give away their account details.

[Elucidator]

Steam has places where people can communicate, share their opinion, artwork, click on thumps up, talk about person A or company B, set up groups,
The only part that isn't considered social media on Steam is the Library, and the Store Front Page. I mean the comments (reviews) section on each game page is already social media.
Every game hub is social media, etc.

"medium to socialize"

[my new friend]

Originally posted by Edifier:

Facebook actually have ads on people profiles.
Facebook make money on this because they supply with the ad.

This.
Valve doesn't have clickbait ads running around on Steam. Users might post scam links but most are caught by the automated bot.

[Crazy Tiger]

The main question will be whether the platform is considered to take enough action against potential scams and at which point the responsibility of the platform ends. In the case of Steam, is the linkfilter, the removing of profile names/pictures with advertisement and such enough? Especially as the majority of scams actually happen outside of Steam (Discord + 3rd party sites) and not directly on Steam itself.

Though in the case against Facebook an important factor is that the image of Forrest gets used by scammers in ads directly on Facebook. Such things don't happen on Steam. So that too would be a factor that can be considered important.

[B-o-B]

This is a Gaming Platform. Not a Social Media Platform.
Doesn't need to go any further.
The Forum was always separate at first. That was, and still is a Community.

[nullable]

Originally posted by ragefifty50:

is steam considered social media..

Possibly. But the issue isn't wholly boolean in nature. And Valve does quite a bit to address issues like scams and certainly doesn't have any mechanism to profit from scams or otherwise protect them while trying to appear to address them.

Ultimately if such ruling were to decide a social media company was perpetually responsible for every user action on the platform that would create a pretty harsh climate. And users wouldn't be too pleased with the heavy handed moderation that results. And scams would still evolve, as would the misunderstandings of who was responsible when.

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Originally posted by Edifier:

Facebook actually have ads on people profiles.
Facebook make money on this because they supply with the ad.

With Steam, the community is entirely user generated. Valve does not put ads anywhere on the community so that won't be an issue.

People who have stolen other people items is still the persons fault. Steam have tried to give a lot of security but it often happens when the user logs in on weird site and give away their account details.

yes... but.... what happens to those items stolen and not returned to
the owner... if they are deleted... end of story... are they deleted...

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Originally posted by Snakub Plissken:

Originally posted by ragefifty50:

is steam considered social media..

Possibly. But the issue isn't wholly boolean in nature. And Valve does quite a bit to address issues like scams and certainly doesn't have any mechanism to profit from scams or otherwise protect them while trying to appear to address them.

Ultimately if such ruling were to decide a social media company was perpetually responsible for every user action on the platform that would create a pretty harsh climate. And users wouldn't be too pleased with the heavy handed moderation that results. And scams would still evolve, as would the misunderstandings of who was responsible when.

heavy handed and harsh has nothing to do with playing games...

it would only be enforcing the already set out rules...

i think the majority of customers wouldnt notice too much.. unless
the problems are a lot bigger than we think they are.... then
that would be a big problem that steam has not really dealt with..

its early days...

[my new friend]

The vector is in question here. On FB, it is through ads. On Steam, none are through ads.

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Originally posted by Crazy Tiger:

The main question will be whether the platform is considered to take enough action against potential scams and at which point the responsibility of the platform ends. In the case of Steam, is the linkfilter, the removing of profile names/pictures with advertisement and such enough? Especially as the majority of scams actually happen outside of Steam (Discord + 3rd party sites) and not directly on Steam itself.

Though in the case against Facebook an important factor is that the image of Forrest gets used by scammers in ads directly on Facebook. Such things don't happen on Steam. So that too would be a factor that can be considered important.

well Forrest seems to be under the impression that facebook
can do things a lot quicker if they wanted too... but choose not too

i tend to agree... computers are quick and instant these days... just tell them what to do..

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Originally posted by my new friend:

The vector is in question here. On FB, it is through ads. On Steam, none are through ads.

there is around a million profiles
with advertising in names and or
avatar on steam right now...

and some are scam websites
others are gambling and so on
and all are against steam rules...

[Mad Scientist]

No. It's a digital storefront, with at the most a forum/game hubs.

Clearly, it's a store. It's like asking if your local electronics/big box store is social media