Why do old games cost so much on steam????

[CeeJayOne]

Steam has 5 and 10 year old plus games selling for full price? the sales just bring them back to a more normal prices range as always steam sales are rubbish with very few real offers. believe me your going to have to dig.

Beside steam only has sales on thing that are not selling or price wrong to begin with.

What do you guys think?

[Cathulhu]

Prices are set by the publishers. Valve has no control over prices and discounts of games not made by them.
Don't like the prices? Tell those publishers.

[Nx Machina]

Developers, publishers set the pricing:

https://partner.steamgames.com/doc/store/pricing

Overview

Partners on Steam are responsible for setting and managing pricing for their products. The Steamworks Developer site provides tools to configure pricing and discounts in all the currencies supported by Steam. Initial pricing as well as proposed pricing adjustments will be reviewed by Valve and are usually processed within one or two business days.

We recommend pricing strategies based on our experience and we may suggest prices based on currency conversions and other factors. During processing we will attempt to check your prices for input errors, but we can't guarantee we will catch every one so please check your prices carefully before submitting.

[Aachen]

Originally posted by CeeJayOne:

.... Beside steam only has sales on thing that are not selling or price wrong to begin with.

What do you guys think?

I think it’s strange that you think there are wrong prices on Steam. What do you mean by that?

[ShelLuser]

Depends on the publisher. If you don't think they're worth it... well... don't buy 'm?

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its not actually price gauging....


but steam has created a captive audience
which means devs dont have to try as hard for sales anymore...


there are games on Steamdb if you look that have gone from 75% discount
during regular sales to now only offering 50% discount regularly.. without
doing anything new in the way of meaningful updates or anything..

win for devs and their old old games

steamdb should have flags next these price increases on old games and
the devs and maybe that might be the wake up we need...

[UCEY]

It largely depends on the game and the developer/publisher. Modern Wolfenstein games cost $40 and up while the old ones like Return to Castle Wolfenstein and Wolf 3D are only $5

[nullable]

Originally posted by CeeJayOne:

Steam has 5 and 10 year old plus games selling for full price? the sales just bring them back to a more normal prices range as always steam sales are rubbish with very few real offers. believe me your going to have to dig.

Do the games cost less elsewhere? Buy them there then. If they don't, why is it a Steam problem?

And as mentioned developers set the prices.

Originally posted by CeeJayOne:

Beside steam only has sales on thing that are not selling or price wrong to begin with.

What do you guys think?

What sales data do you have to support those claims. My guess it's none.

[CeeJayOne]

Valve needs a more active teams, that watch the prices of games across the market and not just blaming devs. Steam needs to act like the massive company it is (if not by market share then by online sales), and start trying to make more deals to lower the prices of old games on its network. even try telling devs to low the price or you will pull the game. stand up for customers for once. i had more free game in one year of epic than i have with steam going back to start of steam account back in 2004. its a shame(17 years steam)

[Aachen]

Originally posted by CeeJayOne:

Valve needs a more active teams, that watch the prices of games across the market and not just blaming devs. Steam needs to act like the massive company it is (if not by market share then by online sales), and start trying to make more deals to lower the prices of old games on its network. even try telling devs to low the price or you will pull the game. stand up for customers for once. i had more free game in one year of epic than i have with steam going back to start of steam account back in 2004. its a shame(17 years steam)

I doubt Valve will find this argument terribly compelling.

[Nx Machina]

Originally posted by CeeJayOne:

Valve needs a more active teams, that watch the prices of games across the market and not just blaming devs. Steam needs to act like the massive company it is (if not by market share then by online sales), and start trying to make more deals to lower the prices of old games on its network. even try telling devs to low the price or you will pull the game. stand up for customers for once. i had more free game in one year of epic than i have with steam going back to start of steam account back in 2004. its a shame(17 years steam)

Again Developers, Publishers set the pricing as already linked in post #2.

https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/0/3165461141523403071/#c3165461141523427972


Secondly - Developers, Publishers also set the pricing on Epic.

RDR2 - Epic - Normal Price - £54.99 - On sale - £36.84

https://www.epicgames.com/store/en-US/p/red-dead-redemption-2


To compare:

RDR2 - Steam - Normal Price - £54.99 - On sale - £36.84




And finally you getting free games from Epic is irrelevant as your thread is about pricing.

[nullable]

Originally posted by CeeJayOne:

Valve needs a more active teams, that watch the prices of games across the market and not just blaming devs.

No, they don't. Valve has created a platform where developers are empowered to manage their own products and content. So us telling you that isn't blaming devs. And your expectation that Valve needs to manage developers is extremely naive. Both to the reality of how Valve operates and why Steam has been so successful.

Originally posted by CeeJayOne:

Steam needs to act like the massive company it is (if not by market share then by online sales), and start trying to make more deals to lower the prices of old games on its network. even try telling devs to low the price or you will pull the game. stand up for customers for once. i had more free game in one year of epic than i have with steam going back to start of steam account back in 2004. its a shame(17 years steam)

A lot of users seem think Valve should use their success to force developers to act in a way the individual user finds convenient. Fortunately Valve knows better than to operate based on the shortsighted wants of cheapskates.

Secondly, games go on sale a lot. Even old games. If you're not buying games when they're on sale, that's a you problem. Valve doesn't need to solve it for you. Although I suppose your expectation is that an old game should be $5, and then still be 75% off during a sale. Even if you don't, others will.

Also you don't seem to understand developers are Valve's customers too. Valve has to manage the concerns for both their developer customers, and their gamer customers.

And finally, Valve is not gaming's Mom. So expecting them to swoop in and fix things just so for you is a bit naive. The reality is gaming is still evolving. Games don't age like they once did. As a result the pricing curve has changed significantly.

But hey, on the upside you can find old games easily. Back in the olden days it was a lot tougher to find thousands of ten plus year old games to buy anywhere.

[CeeJayOne]

Originally posted by Nx Machina:

Originally posted by CeeJayOne:

Valve needs a more active teams, that watch the prices of games across the market and not just blaming devs. Steam needs to act like the massive company it is (if not by market share then by online sales), and start trying to make more deals to lower the prices of old games on its network. even try telling devs to low the price or you will pull the game. stand up for customers for once. i had more free game in one year of epic than i have with steam going back to start of steam account back in 2004. its a shame(17 years steam)

Again Developers, Publishers set the pricing as already linked in post #2.

Secondly - Developers, Publishers also set the pricing on Epic.

And finally you getting free games from Epic is irrelevant as your thread is about pricing.

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Dude its clear your being paid by steam with your private account, lets keep this thread troll free unless they are open and clear about reasons for their unholy defends of steam across so many threads. its not cool and kind of feels like censorship on behind of steam staff (and of course you). They are unwilling to allow open and free chats between players without devs or paid steam supporter troll, telling us we are wrong trying to push their way into every thread. all your doing is putting people off steam.

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[nullable]

People telling things that you don't want to hear or don't agree with you isn't trolling. Claiming it is is dishonest and lazy.

[CeeJayOne]

Originally posted by Snakub Plissken:

People telling things that you don't want to hear or don't agree with you isn't trolling. Claiming it is is dishonest and lazy.

Dude not lazy just my views, Ps. not claiming he a troll was on another thread with that dude and like you. was first told i was wrong for my views (in that case he was right my system at fault). but nice to know offer a view point , put down and told you wrong every time nice.

Loving my steam peps always feel the love(i get it guys, just buy more games and shut up right or your dishonest, nice Snakub Plissken)

[Nx Machina]

Originally posted by CeeJayOne:

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Dude its clear your being paid by steam with your private account, lets keep this thread troll free unless they are open and clear about reasons for their unholy defends of steam across so many threads. its not cool and kind of feels like censorship on behind of steam staff (and of course you). They are unwilling to allow open and free chats between players without devs or paid steam supporter troll, telling us we are wrong trying to push their way into every thread. all your doing is putting people off steam.

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Was it Epic having the same prices as Steam the reason for this very blatant - "you must agree with me or you are a troll", post or you ignoring facts on post #2 and post #10 because you only want affirmation. If you want affirmation start a blog - or maybe do not post on public discussion forums and not except others to post and point out facts.