Freebooters getting tons of rewards in the "artworks" sections of games

[cridus]

So. Anyone can take some beautiful artwork or funny gif/pic made by someone else, re-upload it, and get tons of rewards (I mean the points to use in the points shop). this is incredibly stupid.
I've pointed it out in the comments of one of these and the "author" promptly outright insulted me like he's 12 yo or something (maybe he is).

see the comments of this old gif that was re-uploaded by just adding a word on top: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2428105004
also look how it (currently) got 6500 points from rewards. utterly ridiculous.

Edit: the insulting comments now are gone.

[Aachen]

Inform the content creators. They can act if they desire.

[reebs]

did you know on deviantart there is a whole community centered around making commissioned/free steam artwork for people to use?

It may not be wise to randomly accuse people of that if it's something along those lines.

And a meme is a meme, they always get stolen.

[Matt]

There's 2 separate issues here:

1. In terms of the rewards/points, people are free to give their points to whatever they want.
2. If the artwork was made by someone else, then the original creator can file a DMCA notice.

[cridus]

Yeah but steam just not caring at all about checking for duplicate content is ridiculous. It's too big of a burden to leave on the content creators. Maybe they will never even know their stuff was posted on steam.

P.S. Also I didn't mention this but not checking at all can motivate such people to keep freebooting stuff, maybe even on other platforms. They should face at least some kind of resistance.

Also @Matt can you do something about that guy? He insulted me twice now. (I've reported his 2 comments, yes)

[Aachen]

Nguyên văn bởi cridus:

Yeah but steam just not caring at all about checking for duplicate content is ridiculous. It's too big of a burden to leave on the content creators. Maybe they will never even know their stuff was posted on steam ....

Contact your legislative representatives to change the legal framework, then.

They will know if you contact them.

[Geargut]

Nguyên văn bởi cridus:

Yeah but steam just not caring at all about checking for duplicate content is ridiculous. It's too big of a burden to leave on the content creators. Maybe they will never even know their stuff was posted on steam.

Also @Matt can you do something about that guy? He insulted me twice now. (I've reported his 2 comments, yes)

How would steam compare every "artwork" posted to its site to the entire internet and also know who the true owner is?

[cridus]

Nguyên văn bởi Geargut:

How would steam compare every "artwork" posted to its site to the entire internet and also know who the true owner is?

There are ways to check for identical/similar files, especially for images. And some good indexing can help with speed. They don't need to know the true owner, they should at least check if something was already posted in the same game's "artworks" section.

Heck, even just giving users a button to flag something as duplicate could be useful. Even without acting on it and just showing how many people flagged it as a duplicate, it could prevent many people from giving an award to a freebooter.

[Aachen]

Nguyên văn bởi cridus:

.... Heck, even just giving users a button to flag something as duplicate could be useful. Even without acting on it and just showing how many people flagged it as a duplicate, it could prevent many people from giving an award to a freebooter.

Your basis for this assertion?

[Mad Scientist]

Nguyên văn bởi cridus:

Yeah but steam just not caring at all about checking for duplicate content is ridiculous.

That's not their job, they sell video games and have extra community features. They're not content creator police. Though they can remove anything someone rightfully DMCA's.

Nguyên văn bởi cridus:

It's too big of a burden to leave on the content creators. Maybe they will never even know their stuff was posted on steam.

Then tell the content creator?

Nguyên văn bởi cridus:

Also @Matt can you do something about that guy? He insulted me twice now. (I've reported his 2 comments, yes)

Maybe don't engage and instead report?
It's clearly a child, either way, you're not helping at all.

Nguyên văn bởi Matt:

If the artwork was made by someone else, then the original creator can file a DMCA notice.

Nguyên văn bởi cridus:

Even without acting on it and just showing how many people flagged it as a duplicate, it could prevent many people from giving an award to a freebooter.

Mass reporting does not equate to accuracy of a report, I've seen one of the mods say before someone was reported ~100 times and the reports weren't accurate. You'd also be encouraging mass reporting, and users aren't your personal army. If there's duplication, inform the creator and let them report it if they feel like it as some encourage people to share their content or otherwise don't care.

[nullable]

Nguyên văn bởi cridus:

Nguyên văn bởi Geargut:

How would steam compare every "artwork" posted to its site to the entire internet and also know who the true owner is?

There are ways to check for identical/similar files, especially for images. And some good indexing can help with speed. They don't need to know the true owner, they should at least check if something was already posted in the same game's "artworks" section.

Heck, even just giving users a button to flag something as duplicate could be useful. Even without acting on it and just showing how many people flagged it as a duplicate, it could prevent many people from giving an award to a freebooter.

Sure. Or Valve may not be that concerned about worthless points or how users choose to spend them.

[Start_Running]

Nguyên văn bởi Snakub Plissken:

Nguyên văn bởi cridus:

There are ways to check for identical/similar files, especially for images. And some good indexing can help with speed. They don't need to know the true owner, they should at least check if something was already posted in the same game's "artworks" section.

Heck, even just giving users a button to flag something as duplicate could be useful. Even without acting on it and just showing how many people flagged it as a duplicate, it could prevent many people from giving an award to a freebooter.

Sure. Or Valve may not be that concerned about worthless points or how users choose to spend them.

We have a winner ladies and gents
OP. be less concerned about what other people are doing and more focus on your own stuff.

[crunchyfrog]

Nguyên văn bởi cridus:

Yeah but steam just not caring at all about checking for duplicate content is ridiculous. It's too big of a burden to leave on the content creators. Maybe they will never even know their stuff was posted on steam.

P.S. Also I didn't mention this but not checking at all can motivate such people to keep freebooting stuff, maybe even on other platforms. They should face at least some kind of resistance.

Also @Matt can you do something about that guy? He insulted me twice now. (I've reported his 2 comments, yes)

That's because you have it all wrong. It ain't Valve's prerogative to do so, nor would they be able to spend the resources needed if it were.

It's up to the USERS that own the IP to do something, not Valve. That's not how law works at all.

ONLY the IP rights holder can pursue or threaten anything.

[reebs]

Scanning and deleting duplicates would be a problem, as I said there’s a whole community that makes free to use profile featured artworks. That would R U I N that entire community.

[crunchyfrog]

Nguyên văn bởi ✰Aℓexis✰:

Scanning and deleting duplicates would be a problem, as I said there’s a whole community that makes free to use profile featured artworks. That would R U I N that entire community.

Yup, duplicates can be legit too. It's not targeting just the problem.

[Yzal]

It's not Valve's business to protect someone else's copyrighted material.
Also, that gif? it's from a video from 2013, I know which one. And i doubt who you consider the "real creator" actually is, unless he's GrimDisaster, the creator of said video.

Here, at 5:10
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2K1NZPWau_I