Zidane Lionheart 2021년 7월 10일 오전 7시 33분
RIP Guides
So I'm 30 right, I've been on Steam for over a decade, watched it morph into it's current form which I am happy with. Except for the community of silly clout-chasing children ruining the guide section with their dumbass "hoW to Leik teh game" ♥♥♥♥, I just don't get it. Is that what ya'll think is funny?

Step 1: INSTall teh game
sTEP2: make unfunny "jokes"

How about just write a serious guide or take your nonsense elsewhere. But good for you for collecting all those useless online trophies for your 30 seconds of typing, other people spend actual time and work to write useful guides for people. Man this really pissed me off. And I'm not even one of those people. Anyway, yeah RIP guides feature or anything else that let's people type ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. :praisesun:
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crunchyfrog 2021년 7월 15일 오후 12시 39분 
Zidane Lionheart님이 먼저 게시:
It wasn't always like this, I do think it has to do with the awards or something. It's a relatively new phenomenon as far as Steam goes. I've been using guides for years and there have been jokes but they we're usually funny. Nowadays every one of my games seems to be cluttered with these weird "guides" that lack content or humor, at least IMO (lol). But they seem to have a ♥♥♥♥ load of awards. :bonfire2:
I'm afraid it isn't and it's easy to see why not.

Simply because this problem was just as prevalent BEFORE the awards were a thing.

Does it make it worse? Maybe, but I haven't noticed any real effect. Simply because the ability to report always exists anyway.
Cutter 2021년 7월 15일 오후 1시 18분 
I think anything uploaded/created/modified to steam needs to be approved by steam/moderators. I see countless offensives profiles and some guides (i really do not use guides, but some do not need to be there), etc... All of this needs to be monitored before publishing.

Even games with nudity. There needs to be better way to block this, and only allow what you want to see. During this last summer sale, Steam spammed me with a tons of nudity games because I happen to own Conan exiles. I like Conan, but I do not care to see other nudity games flashing across my screen.
crunchyfrog 2021년 7월 15일 오후 1시 23분 
Cutter님이 먼저 게시:
I think anything uploaded/created/modified to steam needs to be approved by steam/moderators. I see countless offensives profiles and some guides (i really do not use guides, but some do not need to be there), etc... All of this needs to be monitored before publishing.

Even games with nudity. There needs to be better way to block this, and only allow what you want to see. During this last summer sale, Steam spammed me with a tons of nudity games because I happen to own Conan exiles. I like Conan, but I do not care to see other nudity games flashing across my screen.
The problem is, that would wreck everything to the point of not working. You';d simply have an incredible backlog of things waiting to be assessed so that people would get really angry.

That's why the system works as it does now. It's not perfect, but allowing a BASIC check for images, posts and such (which DOES actually happen automatically) and then if anything gets through it's down to us users to report it. That has shown to work pretty well.

It's easy to suggest new ideas, but you have to understand that things are rarely that simple.
hCerisu ❤ 2021년 7월 15일 오후 1시 27분 
We should be able to sort guides by helpful/funny like we do reviews.
AdahnGorion 2021년 7월 15일 오후 1시 35분 
Zidane Lionheart님이 먼저 게시:
So I'm 30 right, I've been on Steam for over a decade, watched it morph into it's current form which I am happy with. Except for the community of silly clout-chasing children ruining the guide section with their dumbass "hoW to Leik teh game" ♥♥♥♥, I just don't get it. Is that what ya'll think is funny?

Step 1: INSTall teh game
sTEP2: make unfunny "jokes"

How about just write a serious guide or take your nonsense elsewhere. But good for you for collecting all those useless online trophies for your 30 seconds of typing, other people spend actual time and work to write useful guides for people. Man this really pissed me off. And I'm not even one of those people. Anyway, yeah RIP guides feature or anything else that let's people type ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. :praisesun:

The problem is that nobody like serious guides.
You either adapt to that or get left behind.


Personally I only made one guide myself and that is super serious and actually tries to help people not getting into gambling and other things.. but sadly.. nobody likes it.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2481887302
crunchyfrog 2021년 7월 15일 오후 1시 42분 
Darkie님이 먼저 게시:
Zidane Lionheart님이 먼저 게시:
So I'm 30 right, I've been on Steam for over a decade, watched it morph into it's current form which I am happy with. Except for the community of silly clout-chasing children ruining the guide section with their dumbass "hoW to Leik teh game" ♥♥♥♥, I just don't get it. Is that what ya'll think is funny?

Step 1: INSTall teh game
sTEP2: make unfunny "jokes"

How about just write a serious guide or take your nonsense elsewhere. But good for you for collecting all those useless online trophies for your 30 seconds of typing, other people spend actual time and work to write useful guides for people. Man this really pissed me off. And I'm not even one of those people. Anyway, yeah RIP guides feature or anything else that let's people type ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. :praisesun:

The problem is that nobody like serious guides.
You either adapt to that or get left behind.


Personally I only made one guide myself and that is super serious and actually tries to help people not getting into gambling and other things.. but sadly.. nobody likes it.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2481887302
There's a fair point in there!

To be perfectly frank, yeah, the most better received guides have levity and humour in. That's been the case for decades in the old-school media too.

The very first thing I wrote as a test piece for a gaming mag back in the 1990s was returned saying "inject a bit more life into it< and joke a bit" as I'd taken it too matter of factly and drily.

So there's no reason why there shouldn't be SOME humour at minimum in there.

Although again, to be fair, this is really tackling those that are purely "for teh lulz" and offer almost nothing in the way of guides.
AdahnGorion 2021년 7월 15일 오후 1시 50분 
crunchyfrog님이 먼저 게시:
Darkie님이 먼저 게시:

The problem is that nobody like serious guides.
You either adapt to that or get left behind.


Personally I only made one guide myself and that is super serious and actually tries to help people not getting into gambling and other things.. but sadly.. nobody likes it.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2481887302
There's a fair point in there!

To be perfectly frank, yeah, the most better received guides have levity and humour in. That's been the case for decades in the old-school media too.

The very first thing I wrote as a test piece for a gaming mag back in the 1990s was returned saying "inject a bit more life into it< and joke a bit" as I'd taken it too matter of factly and drily.

So there's no reason why there shouldn't be SOME humour at minimum in there.

Although again, to be fair, this is really tackling those that are purely "for teh lulz" and offer almost nothing in the way of guides.

It is the same with reviews tbh.
I can spend much time on reviews, tell my bias and then also put up some objectivity and go into big detail

And example.

https://steamcommunity.com/id/AdahnGorion/recommended/466300/

Then if you go into the newest amd most popular games, over half the reviews are like this.

https://steamcommunity.com/id/JayR0Cked/recommended/1091500/



You might also note, that posting hostile, fanboism or low ball jokes, will nick you a lot of awards (another trend, that have helped guildes, reviews, etc to become like this)
Even steam threads and post now a days, have the same focus.



That has nothing to do with the "joking" you talk about, because that is high class, it is used to keep the reader interested and to section into something new, etc.
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crunchyfrog 2021년 7월 15일 오후 1시 52분 
Darkie님이 먼저 게시:
crunchyfrog님이 먼저 게시:
There's a fair point in there!

To be perfectly frank, yeah, the most better received guides have levity and humour in. That's been the case for decades in the old-school media too.

The very first thing I wrote as a test piece for a gaming mag back in the 1990s was returned saying "inject a bit more life into it< and joke a bit" as I'd taken it too matter of factly and drily.

So there's no reason why there shouldn't be SOME humour at minimum in there.

Although again, to be fair, this is really tackling those that are purely "for teh lulz" and offer almost nothing in the way of guides.

It is the same with reviews tbh.
I can spend much time on reviews, tell my bias and then also put up some objectivity and go into big detail

And example.

https://steamcommunity.com/id/AdahnGorion/recommended/466300/

Then if you go into the newest amd most popular games, over half the reviews are like this.

https://steamcommunity.com/id/JayR0Cked/recommended/1091500/



You might also note, that posting hostile, fanboism or low ball jokes, will nick you a lot of awards (another trend, that have helped guildes, reviews, etc to become like this)
Even steam threads and post now a days, have the same focus.



That has nothing to do with the "joking" you talk about, because that is high class, it is used to keep the reader interested and to section into something new, etc.
Ah well that's the thing.
We've already addressed that on here.

Those sort of things you should report. That's how it works. Of course, how quickly they get seen to is another matter.
aaronx ⭕⃤ 2021년 7월 16일 오전 9시 00분 
I have bad news, not only in guide section, but reviews too
cSg|mc-Hotsauce 2021년 7월 16일 오전 9시 01분 
aaronx님이 먼저 게시:
I have bad news, not only in guide section, but reviews too

Post #4 again...

https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/0/3061868384742023579/?tscn=1626451205#c3061868384742199557

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