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GrumpyGrumpyMeh 2021 年 7 月 1 日 上午 8:21
So as a Canadian i have to pay tax now?
Bought a game 5 days ago and didn't have to pay tax, now that the problem with adding games to the cart seems to be fixed (for me anyway), its trying to charge me tax?

NM... just did a google search and ya, f me, a new law came in to effect today in Canada that steam and other online services have to charge us tax. So now i get to add 13% to all the steam prices.. f'n fantastic.
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Realigo Actual 2021 年 7 月 1 日 上午 11:42 
It's just as much about Amazon as any digital games thing. In fact, it's largely not about the digital games thing. Money going into the states, probably they should have been taxing long ago.

You could get the poobies to dial back their new era pricing strategies and get it back that way.

In any case, you can't really argue with this except on the grounds that Bell and Rogers basically do whatever the ♥♥♥♥ they want to whoever they feel like

引用自 Mythical Ostrich
引用自 cSg|mc-Hotsauce

Sounds like you are asking for an account lock for fraud. I advise against it.

:qr:

It's not against the rules to buy games from official online stores, I checked and some of them don't the have this tax (yet). So I'll be buying from them.

If they don't 30000 a year they don't need to register.
SPG 2021 年 7 月 1 日 上午 11:45 
Canadians are already taxed to death. Taxes on taxes on taxes
Helen Magnus 2021 年 7 月 1 日 下午 1:22 
It's why I already bought what I wanted for the Summer Sale.
Rootbeer Safety Team 2021 年 7 月 1 日 下午 1:34 
引用自 GrumpyGrumpyMeh
It wasn't about enforcement, if you didn't have a physical presence (ie servers, etc..) in Canada then you didn't have to pay tax. It seems they passed a law last year that came in to effect today that makes all sales from online services/stores in Canada have to pay tax.

What bothers me is steam didn't even give a notice that this was going to happen, which would have been a nice thing to do for their poutine eating customers. The rock i live under doesn't seem to get news about all the laws being passed that might affect me =(

The government just decided to change this because the Liberals have spent so much money, they need to scrape as much as they can with tax. and digital services are an easy picking.

IIRC this was actually supposed to go into effect in June, not July, Valve didn't warn people like some companies did, I know Netflix did.


The worst thing about it is depending on where you live, this could range from a mild annoyance in 5% in Alberta, to a pretty signifigant chunk if you live in the east coast where we have to pay 15%.

Prices have already been raised due to A - Publishers wanting more than $60 for their titles, and B - The imbalance of USD to CAD, Now expect to pay upwards of $100 for a title in Canada. that really sucks considering scores of people are already in low paying jobs with no real future or way out
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Rootbeer Safety Team 2021 年 7 月 1 日 下午 1:39 
引用自 sumolagann
What's the purpose of the tax?
it's the same as VAT.

You buy a $100 toy. you pay an additional 5, 10, 15 dollars that goes to the government for them to burn on something on the other side of the country, or give to a foreign government, lol


In the past, you buy goods in Canada, you pay sales tax on that item.
you order something from America or Germany or something, you dont pay tax, but you might get nailed by customs when the item gets imported, and be forced to pay the tax on the value of the transaction.

video games and digital services were a grey area because they were a foreign sale, and there was no physical exchange, so the previous rules couldnt apply

Our current government is notorious for running HUGE deficits, spending on god knows what and that was even before Coronavirus, so they implimented this to make some extra money from an already taxed to death populace
最后由 Rootbeer Safety Team 编辑于; 2021 年 7 月 1 日 下午 1:41
Mythical Ostrich 2021 年 7 月 1 日 下午 1:40 
引用自 sumolagann
What's the purpose of the tax?

To fund our subhuman politicians' vacations and whatever crusades they want to go on.
Praylak 2021 年 7 月 1 日 下午 1:47 
It threw me off after a purchase today as well. I'm like, w.t.f, I done this a over hundred times and there's never been a tax. But yeah they did say this was coming some time back. But given the current state of government deficits, here and abroad, they are practically going insolvent the way they are borrowing and spending.

It's no surprise they are coming to squeeze it all out of us. Can't wait to see my new property tax bill after the next assessment, given the "apparent" value of my home increased 33% over last year. What goes up 33% in one year?
nullable 2021 年 7 月 1 日 下午 1:50 
Property does... when there's a new housing bubble.
Hairy Goober 2021 年 7 月 1 日 下午 1:54 
引用自 Praylak
What goes up 33% in one year?
A house in an overvalued market completely controlled by numbered corps and foreign buyers. It's fun having the market played like a game, not like it screws over the rest of us or anything.
Niele 2021 年 7 月 1 日 下午 2:03 
So, this tax is supposed to be payed only by the users? Steam pays some taxes to Canada or other countries when an user makes some purchase outside US?
Can someone knowledged on the subject enlighten me? I'm just curious. :2016roasted:
JVC 2021 年 7 月 1 日 下午 2:38 
引用自 Niele
So, this tax is supposed to be payed only by the users? Steam pays some taxes to Canada or other countries when an user makes some purchase outside US?
Can someone knowledged on the subject enlighten me? I'm just curious. :2016roasted:
Sales tax is paid by the consumer, yes.

I'm Danish, when I buy something from Steam, the receipt stats that 20% is my Danish value added tax (Moms, 25% of the sale's price = 20% of the total collected amount [25/125]).

But: since the EU prohibits price discrimination between customers from the various EU countries, steam does the calculation backwards, so they make the local tax fit while keeping the same total amount collected whether the customer is a German, a Dane or an Italian. So a part of the amount you pay is also your Italian IVA, and a part of what the German customer pays is his MwSt. Also, AFAIK, it is illegal in the EU to show a store price that does not already contain the national Value Added Tax, it certainly is illegal in my jurisdiction.

In terms of VAT within the EU, companies always charge the national VAT from their sales, but they can deduct the amount the company paid on its own purchases [with some exceptions]. The idea is that only the value added by the company itself is taxed.

In North America, the system seems to be simpler: Steam simply adds X% in tax during the checkout and stores in the US show store prices before sales tax is added.
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Realigo Actual 2021 年 7 月 1 日 下午 2:54 
引用自 Niele
So, this tax is supposed to be payed only by the users? Steam pays some taxes to Canada or other countries when an user makes some purchase outside US?
Can someone knowledged on the subject enlighten me? I'm just curious. :2016roasted:

Steam remits taxes collected, yes. They've been doing this for the European countries for a while, and many others besides, but there it is a part of the sticker. Here, it's added on because nobody wants to shake that 99, boy!

I really don't think that Steam and so on was the main motivator here. This is about Amazon, and those like, and preparing for a possible future of direct to home retail.

Also, again for Amazon specifically, there were loopholes with Amazon warehousing and Canadian rules surrounding domestic presence and US taxation infrastructure based on seller location and buyer location. It was all just a really huge grey area and now they're fixing it.
rawWwRrr 2021 年 7 月 1 日 下午 2:54 
引用自 JVC
In North America, the system seems to be simpler: Steam simply adds X% in tax during the checkout and stores in the US show store prices before sales tax is added.
It has to be done this way within the US as there are nearly a countless different jurisdictions with each one having a different approach towards sales tax and enforcement of it.

I just moved from an area that Steam was not responsible to collect sales tax for my purchases to one that does. And while that might seem bad for me, I'm now in an area that doesn't tax food. Since I buy more food than I do video games on Steam I end up ahead. I also used to live where there was added sales tax on top of what was already charged simply because of the street the stores were on.

So while it may seem simpler, it's because of the sheer complexity it deals with.
TankerzUnited 2021 年 7 月 1 日 下午 5:46 
引用自 Mythical Ostrich
Yep, it's a Canada thing. As if our ♥♥♥♥♥♥ country couldn't get worse. ♥♥♥♥ Trudeau. ♥♥♥♥ politicians, they're all subhuman cancer.

Now I'm going to have to jump through hoops to avoid taxes.

I swear I hope we vote that dumbass POS out for good.
Mythical Ostrich 2021 年 7 月 1 日 下午 5:58 
引用自 crexorz
I swear I hope we vote that dumbass POS out for good.
He's a politician, I highly doubt his replacement would be any better tbh
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