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Mr. No_Effs_Given 2021 年 6 月 24 日 上午 10:56
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This sale stinks! Official thread.
Just putting this out before someone else does:lunar2019laughingpig:.
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( ( < < <🤖> > > ) ) 2021 年 6 月 26 日 下午 1:58 
just gonna say good bye to this post now...

i expect older games to have better discounts... thats it...
maybe not the games i want to buy but older games in general...
i wont be groomed other wise.... so have fun...


you can win... thats great you win... done
Aachen 2021 年 6 月 26 日 下午 1:58 
引用自 ragefifty50

only subjective to a point ....

Nope. Subjective through-and-through.

.... a few 3 4 5 year old games with the same price same discount for 5 years isnt subjective
its stinks for the customer that expects a better discount on older games.. simple ....

List the objective criteria that apply.

That aside, I note the verb “to expect” keeps coming up in your posts. What relevance is there in what any particular person expects? Why ought anyone else care?

If I were to state: “I expect you to agree with my argument; I made it years ago” it would neither be a realistic expectation nor would it be objectively valid to do so after any length of time.
Tito Shivan 2021 年 6 月 26 日 下午 2:29 
Don't look a gift horse in the mouth.
crunchyfrog 2021 年 6 月 26 日 下午 3:23 
引用自 ragefifty50
引用自 Tito Shivan
Managment of expectations has never been a strong skill amongst gamers.

sales are promoted to give the consumer/gamer good deals on price...

i think its a management issue... more than a gamer issue...
Nope. Because we went through this once before.

The data shows that across the board the sales do marginally improve year on year.

But we also have clear evidence that gamers DO indeed suffer from the fact that as they buy more games and have less of a pool to wish for, it makes them jaded and they blame everyone except themselves.

That's clearly demonstrable.

引用自 ragefifty50
just gonna say good bye to this post now...

i expect older games to have better discounts... thats it...
maybe not the games i want to buy but older games in general...
i wont be groomed other wise.... so have fun...


you can win... thats great you win... done


You can expect all you like, doesn't make it so.

Traditionally in the olden days of physical games, and even when digital had started, the longer a game had been out the lesser the price charged. But it's either missing the point or disingenious to expect it to stay that way - simply because digital dostrbution has changed that, games as a service exist, and games have FAR longer legs than previously.

You only have to look at games like 7 Days to Die or GTA V - those games came out around the beginning of the LAST generation and yet are still selling strongly. What sort of business sense would it be to reduce the price just because "it used to be that way"?

That's terrible economics.
最後修改者:crunchyfrog; 2021 年 6 月 26 日 下午 3:27
Daemon 2021 年 6 月 26 日 下午 3:24 
They just don't seem to be able to compete with prices elsewhere anymore. Even the sale prices aren't that great.
Chompman 2021 年 6 月 26 日 下午 3:40 
引用自 Daemon
They just don't seem to be able to compete with prices elsewhere anymore. Even the sale prices aren't that great.
Again the devs/publishers are the ones doing this and if they are cheaper elsewhere there is usually a good reason like it's their own platform they are trying to get people to use instead of steam and lower prices is a common method.

At least for legit sites as you cannot compare to black market sites that are reselling stolen keys.
crunchyfrog 2021 年 6 月 26 日 下午 3:44 
引用自 Daemon
They just don't seem to be able to compete with prices elsewhere anymore. Even the sale prices aren't that great.

That's because you seem to be making the flawed assumption that Valve set the prices - they CANNOT. They are a store and only can sell at the price the rights owners state.

So that's why the prices look similar - it ain't their remit.
haverespect 2021 年 6 月 26 日 下午 4:36 
引用自 ragefifty50
just gonna say good bye to this post now...

i expect older games to have better discounts... thats it...
maybe not the games i want to buy but older games in general...
i wont be groomed other wise.... so have fun...


you can win... thats great you win... done

Agree with this a 100% it baffles me how anyone can be blind to this!
Chompman 2021 年 6 月 26 日 下午 4:44 
引用自 haverespect
引用自 ragefifty50
just gonna say good bye to this post now...

i expect older games to have better discounts... thats it...
maybe not the games i want to buy but older games in general...
i wont be groomed other wise.... so have fun...


you can win... thats great you win... done

Agree with this a 100% it baffles me how anyone can be blind to this!
Some games it makes no sense to really downgrade their value for many companies.

If there is no sequel for instance that causes little reason to buy the original game if there is no major link to the newer version as there is no cost really to selling you game on a digital store unlike a physical store where there is limited space.

Or if the game is still selling very well there is no reason to reduce it's price.

And again if the game is available on your own launcher it makes sense to sell it on others for more to drive people to use your launcher as so many others have been launched in the past decade compared to when only steam was an option.

Just because a digital item may be older does not automatically make it of less value like physical goods can be if they have been replaced with a better version or with wear and tear.
haverespect 2021 年 6 月 26 日 下午 5:42 
引用自 Chompman
引用自 haverespect

Agree with this a 100% it baffles me how anyone can be blind to this!
Some games it makes no sense to really downgrade their value for many companies.

If there is no sequel for instance that causes little reason to buy the original game if there is no major link to the newer version as there is no cost really to selling you game on a digital store unlike a physical store where there is limited space.

Or if the game is still selling very well there is no reason to reduce it's price.

And again if the game is available on your own launcher it makes sense to sell it on others for more to drive people to use your launcher as so many others have been launched in the past decade compared to when ponly steam was an option.

Just because a digital item may be older does not automatically make it of less value like physical goods can be if they have been replaced with a better version or with wear and tear.

Agree with some of what you are saying but you must remember Steam makes a massive commission which could quite easily be passed on to the customers in terms of coupons etc.

I regularly monitor ITAD and many of the games in discussion have actually been cheaper at somepoint preceeding this so called 'sale' not to mention that they are far cheaper in most instances from 3rd party resellers like Voidu, Greenman etc

You can call it what you want but I'll stand firm with my opinion that the sales over last 3 years or so have lost their appeal to me in terms of lack of big record low discounts and no offer of even a £5 measly coupon!

I normally spend anything between £150-200 a sale in the past because like most people I love a bargain but if the games have been out many years have seen cheaper prices before and is available cheaper elsewhere then it's a no brainer and this year I only spent £30 with steam as the lack of 50% or more discounts on good but 3-5 year old games that I didn't own was pretty much non existent.
最後修改者:haverespect; 2021 年 6 月 26 日 下午 5:48
Label07 2021 年 6 月 26 日 下午 5:46 
引用自 eram
you are not forced to buy anything
Obviously not, but once a year for 2 weeks there is supposed to be this revolutionary sale. Lackluster again, as it's been since they stopped doing flash sales.
cSg|mc-Hotsauce 2021 年 6 月 26 日 下午 5:57 
引用自 Label07
引用自 eram
you are not forced to buy anything
Obviously not, but once a year for 2 weeks there is supposed to be this revolutionary sale. Lackluster again, as it's been since they stopped doing flash sales.

2x a year with a total of 4 weeks.

:qr:
Leonardo Da Pinchi 2021 年 6 月 26 日 下午 6:46 
引用自 Label07
引用自 eram
you are not forced to buy anything
Obviously not, but once a year for 2 weeks there is supposed to be this revolutionary sale. Lackluster again, as it's been since they stopped doing flash sales.
The revolutionary aspect is the grand size of the sale, not exactly the prices offered by it.
Strider 2021 年 6 月 26 日 下午 7:24 
Anything to recommend?
muckymucks 2021 年 6 月 26 日 下午 8:04 
Even the meta game sucks.
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