censorship

[RhinoRobb]

Steam needs to label these games properly telling if a game is censored.this is the third game like this and I am tired of the BS. Steam needs to label these type of games upfront.

[kitt]

complain to the Devs or Publishers or move to Germany where you get a big orange Box which says "low violence version yada yada"..

[cSg|mc-Hotsauce]

The game devs can tell you this information if they choose to. It isn't always up to Valve to give you all the info.

[ShelLuser]

Originally posted by RhinoRobb:

Steam needs to label these games properly telling if a game is censored.this is the third game like this and I am tired of the BS.

I assume we're talking erotic games? Maybe not but that's what I'll go for in my response... it's not Steam but the developers which made that choice. And I agree: it can be highly annoying, but for more reasons that you may think.

The issue is simple: the developers want the best from both worlds. They want as much exposure for their game as possible (no pun intended) but they also want to cater to their target audience. Result: a censored game for which there's usually an official patch to uncensor stuff. I'm also not a fan of this, but there's nothing Steam can do. If the developer did the right thing they would have marked their game as "adult", they wouldn't need to censor stuff but the downside (for them) is that only 'Steamers' who turned off "adult filtering" would get to see these titles.

It's not Steam but the developers or publishers who should know better.

[Kargor]

You need to provide more examples.

As an example, there are a lot of censored games in Germany, because Nazis are not allowed in games (you can have them in books or movies, but not in games), and because there used to be some issue with game violence. So, there are a lot of games that get "special" German versions, even if the original "reason" (which was dubious in many cases even then) definitive doesn't apply anymore. It's just that publishers hate to do anything on "old" games, even if it's just a couple of mouseclicks to change the store setup.

Fanservice, on the other hand, is not censoring. If the game is the same everywhere, then there's no censoring involved, and the publisher simply wanted to keep a "T" rating instead of "M" or "R" (as I side note, while I don't follow ratings all that closely, I believe the original Hyperdimension Neptunia mk2 was the only Neptunia game to get an "M" instead of "T" -- and that wasn't the fanservice but a pedophile enemy and Nepgear outright murdering everyone in the bad ending. I don't know how much of that made it into Re;Birth2 as I haven't played it yet...)

Some games could be considered borderline, but a censoring note could be appropriate just to make sure everything is treated the same way. As an example, "Tales of Berseria" starts out with our protagonist living a peaceful life in a small village... until her brother in law murders her little brother as a sacrifice, which sets the actual game in motion. This cutscene has been slightly changed in the western release compared to the Japanese version, but no other changes have been made, and other than his injury being kind of weird considering what has happened, there's no real indication of that change unless you know that it happened).

[grody_antagonic]

Originally posted by RhinoRobb:

Steam needs to label these games properly telling if a game is censored.this is the third game like this and I am tired of the BS. Steam needs to label these type of games upfront.

You can follow curators that specialise on telling consumers if a product is censored. You will even be able to see them on the store-pages that way.
Some good curators to follow in that regard:

https://store.steampowered.com/curator/10576967-Cut-Content-Police/

For german censorship:
https://store.steampowered.com/curator/1108903-for-UNCUT/

There are more out there, but especially Cut Content Police should cover most. You can also join the group for even more infos regarding censorship.

[Radene]

Originally posted by ShelLuser:

Originally posted by RhinoRobb:

Steam needs to label these games properly telling if a game is censored.this is the third game like this and I am tired of the BS.

I assume we're talking erotic games?

Either that or it's another case of "I want the REAL Nazi flag in my games!"

[RhinoRobb]

I checked the list and the game I am playing is not on it.

[Ogami]

It would help if you could tell us the name of the game in question.

Also , for erotic games, if you have set your account preferences to display "adult sexual content" fully uncensored games will appear in the store.
They will have a warning on the store page that its a title for mature audiences only and that you see it because you set your account to display those games.

ALL other games that are on the store and dont have that message are censored or all ages versions of those games.
Those usually have a uncensor patch you can download outside of Steam.
Sometimes they also sell the uncensor patch as DLC directly over Steam.

[RhinoRobb]

the mystery of bikini island

[Glimmer]

Originally posted by RhinoRobb:

the mystery of bikini island

ShelLuser covered it pretty well. It's up to the Devs to either mark it as the censored version of the game or flag it as Adult Only and leave the nudity remain. They have chosen neither.

That being said, a quick search turns up the official instructions on how the enable the nudity.

[Ogami]

Well, the Steam version being sold does not have the "Mature Content" warning so its censored by default.
Apparently the developer once offered a uncensor patch on their website but that website no longer exists.
In this case you are out of luck i would say.

But really not Steams fault if the developer pulls the plug, they only advertise the censored version.
If you want to be certain the game you buy has uncensored sexual content, make sure this is displayed on the store page like in this example:

http://prntscr.com/v42do9

[ShelLuser]

I forgot to mention this in my previous post but still wanted to share because this is important:

If you do patch your game in order to uncensor it then always be careful with uploading screenshots! As soon as it features adult content (even so much as a topless girl or a bottomless guy (lol!)) then you could run into trouble. Because the original game (so: as it is available on Steam) doesn't contain nudity. And "adult material" may only be uploaded and used on Steam behind their content filters (the one which Ogami mentioned above me).

... a content filter which the developers and/or publishers decided not to use in order to sell their censored game(s).

So keep this well in mind! (this is that 'other reason' why I seriously dislike censored games which I mentioned earlier; they could potentially get players into trouble who apply an official patch, upload their screenshots and then see their stuff get removed with a possible warning attached). And it's not Steam but the developer(s) you got to thank for it.

[grody_antagonic]

Originally posted by RhinoRobb:

the mystery of bikini island

may I suggest you to join this group:
https://steamcommunity.com/groups/Nukige
and look for what you seek there. They have uncut patches for (nearly?) ALL steam erotic games that need one. Look around, follow their instructions. Be happy.

btw: I looked for the patch for your mentioned game, and yes, they have it (ofc).^^

P.S.: They don't like it if one links to their patches directly, so you have to dig it up yourself. They are on their discord.