Why did Red Dead Redemption win game of the year but it came out 3 years ago?

[Torbaz]

DOOM Eternal, a much better game and a game that actually came out this year, should've won by far.

[cSg|mc-Hotsauce]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Torbaz:

Why did Red Dead Redemption win game of the year but it came out 3 years ago?

DOOM Eternal, a much better game and a game that actually came out this year, should've won by far.

It was released on Steam after last years nominations cut off date.

[crunchyfrog]

Two things.

First off as Hotsauce rightly points out, this is STEAM. It was released here this year (or since the cutoff date).

But more importantly, there is no "should have won". The public voted for this, so whatever won, won by their decision. That's exactly the correct result.

Now you might not agree with it, but that doesn't make it wrong. It ain't YOUR personal list.

[Garou]

Correction: some of the public voted for this and because there were many options it wasn't even the majority.

[cSg|mc-Hotsauce]

Początkowo opublikowane przez F35:

Correction: some of the public voted for this and because there were many options it wasn't even the majority.

Source of your claim?

[Torbaz]

Początkowo opublikowane przez crunchyfrog:

Two things.

First off as Hotsauce rightly points out, this is STEAM. It was released here this year (or since the cutoff date).

But more importantly, there is no "should have won". The public voted for this, so whatever won, won by their decision. That's exactly the correct result.

Now you might not agree with it, but that doesn't make it wrong. It ain't YOUR personal list.

RDR2 only won because more people have played it.

[Ogami]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Torbaz:

RDR2 only won because more people have played it.

Congratulations, you figured out the secret to every "most popular" poll ever.
The more a thing is known, the higher the chance more people will vote for it.

Also, "Doom Eternal" was a disappointment for me, thought it was much worse then "Doom 2016".
People have different tastes what they like in games. Just because you or i think a certain game deserves the win does not mean the majority shares that opinion.

Btw i voted for "Death Stranding" since i thought its an fantastic experience but i knew from the beginning it had no chance.

If there was no year restriction "CS:GO" or "GTA 5" would win every year.
Thats just the nature of these kind of polls.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[crunchyfrog]

Początkowo opublikowane przez F35:

Correction: some of the public voted for this and because there were many options it wasn't even the majority.

And what you fail to note is that those options were ALSO voted for by the public.

[crunchyfrog]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Torbaz:

Początkowo opublikowane przez crunchyfrog:

Two things.

First off as Hotsauce rightly points out, this is STEAM. It was released here this year (or since the cutoff date).

But more importantly, there is no "should have won". The public voted for this, so whatever won, won by their decision. That's exactly the correct result.

Now you might not agree with it, but that doesn't make it wrong. It ain't YOUR personal list.

RDR2 only won because more people have played it.

Is that supposed to be some sort of gotcha? Or downside?

Yes, that's how these things work.

Best song of the year? Down to sales.
Best book of the year? Down to sales.
Best albums of the year? Down to sales.

You see a pattern here?

[Judgmental Amaterasu]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Torbaz:

Początkowo opublikowane przez crunchyfrog:

Two things.

First off as Hotsauce rightly points out, this is STEAM. It was released here this year (or since the cutoff date).

But more importantly, there is no "should have won". The public voted for this, so whatever won, won by their decision. That's exactly the correct result.

Now you might not agree with it, but that doesn't make it wrong. It ain't YOUR personal list.

RDR2 only won because more people have played it.

No really? Thanks for the heads up Captain Obvious.

[what?]

Because it's rigged and the developers pay for their awards. You could say the game won because "it's the most popular", but past experiences tell us otherwise.

[cSg|mc-Hotsauce]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Dr. Snap, The Wizard:

Because it's rigged and the developers pay for their awards. You could say the game won because "it's the most popular", but past experiences tell us otherwise.

Devs don't pay for their awards on Steam.

[Darren]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Dr. Snap, The Wizard:

Because it's rigged and the developers pay for their awards. You could say the game won because "it's the most popular", but past experiences tell us otherwise.

And your evidence of this? Even from this years vote you'd think Battlefield V or the Marvel Avengers game would have been able to muster much more money to "buy" an award than an indie game like Ori and the Will of the Wisps.

In 2019 Most Innovative Gameplay didn't even have any AAA or AA games in it it was exclusively Indie titles. In addition A Plague Tale Innocence with it's far more modest budget went up against Far Cry New Dawn and Gears 5 in Outstanding Story-Rich Game and beat them both.

The awards are as you'd expect a popularity contest that is somewhat narrowed by the restriction that you are only allowed to nominate any given game for one category (which helps scatter votes some, and prevents any massively popular game from sweeping all the categories since they probably won't be options in most of them) and that because they are games from only this year prevents the same games winning year on year that would otherwise happen.

[what?]

Początkowo opublikowane przez cSg|mc-Hotsauce:

Początkowo opublikowane przez Dr. Snap, The Wizard:

Because it's rigged and the developers pay for their awards. You could say the game won because "it's the most popular", but past experiences tell us otherwise.

Devs don't pay for their awards on Steam.

:qr:

Oh? And that just negates my point entirely, does it? It only it were that simple.

In 2016, Valve let us come up with our own award. There was a huge collaborative effort to recognize Half-Life 2 as a "game most deserving of a sequel".

The results are in, Valve even went as far as to make up 3 additional categories! Surely Half-Life got something, right?

Lol, no. The game doesn't even get mentioned. It's just a bunch of generic picks from categories that someone clearly came up with to pretend there isn't an elephant in the room.

The awards are shallow and predictable. Whatever's "mainstream" will win. Whatever the community actually wants, won't win. It seems obvious the definition of mainstream here is skewed.

Początkowo opublikowane przez Darren:

The awards are as you'd expect a popularity contest

A lot of award shows tend to make things seem more popular than they actually are. How many times do you watch one and think to yourself "who in the hell are these people?"

[cSg|mc-Hotsauce]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Dr. Snap, The Wizard:

Początkowo opublikowane przez cSg|mc-Hotsauce:

Devs don't pay for their awards on Steam.

Oh? And that just negates my point entirely, does it? It only it were that simple.

In 2016, Valve let us come up with our own award. There was a huge collaborative effort to recognize Half-Life 2 as a "game most deserving of a sequel".

The results are in, Valve even went as far as to make up 3 additional categories! Surely Half-Life got something, right?

Lol, no. The game doesn't even get mentioned. It's just a bunch of generic picks from categories that someone clearly came up with to pretend there isn't an elephant in the room.

The awards are shallow and predictable. Whatever's "mainstream" will win. Whatever the community actually wants, won't win. It seems obvious the definition of mainstream here is skewed.

Users picked them.

Nothing you have shown indicates devs paying for awards.

[Torbaz]

just saying guys if everyone who voted had played DOOM Eternal before voting, DOOM Eternal would've won