Family sharing is really nowhere near what it is on Xbox...

[Orb]

I'm all for PCMR but jeez, two accounts can't play games at the same time?!

I thought it was that you couldn't play the same game at the same time which I thought was bad but somewhat acceptable. This is pathetic, on Xbox I can share almost every game I purchase in my household and play at the same time (even the same game!).

I doubt things are going to change since I saw posts dating way back on this, wish I had read them earlier...

[Orb]

Abüzer Kömürcü님이 먼저 게시:

nice try

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[Mythical Ostrich]

Even though I personally don't use it, I'm REALLY impressed by what Xbox has done with the pass, sharing, etc. It's next level. I hope Valve takes some notes.

[FOXDUDE69]

GOG Is DRM Free.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=siLkbdVxntU

[Cathulhu]

Mythical Ostrich님이 먼저 게시:

Even though I personally don't use it, I'm REALLY impressed by what Xbox has done with the pass, sharing, etc. It's next level. I hope Valve takes some notes.

Like, charging money to be able to play multiplayer?

[Had Matter]

BluntlyHonest님이 먼저 게시:

Cathulhu님이 먼저 게시:

Like, charging money to be able to play multiplayer?

Games with gold (standalone) get 2-4 free games each month, those who opt for gamepass ultimate (includes gold) get access to hundreds of PC and xbox game, including day one access to all microsoft published games which is soon to include bethesda titles.

if you think 100-ish usd a year is too much for 36-48 free games, and access to one of the largest subscription gaming services (which includes pc, xbox, android and soon pc cloud streaming) not sure what you would class as good value.

Lol, for that money i get around 140 games on Steam and i keep them forever.

[cinedine]

Had Matter님이 먼저 게시:

BluntlyHonest님이 먼저 게시:

Games with gold (standalone) get 2-4 free games each month, those who opt for gamepass ultimate (includes gold) get access to hundreds of PC and xbox game, including day one access to all microsoft published games which is soon to include bethesda titles.

if you think 100-ish usd a year is too much for 36-48 free games, and access to one of the largest subscription gaming services (which includes pc, xbox, android and soon pc cloud streaming) not sure what you would class as good value.

Lol, for that money i get around 140 games on Steam and i keep them forever.

140 cheaply made games you are unlikely to ever play.
Or are you seriously talking about older blockbusters and new releases?

[Had Matter]

cinedine님이 먼저 게시:

Had Matter님이 먼저 게시:

Lol, for that money i get around 140 games on Steam and i keep them forever.

140 cheaply made games you are unlikely to ever play.
Or are you seriously talking about older blockbusters and new releases?

Got a lot of gems like Supraland, Generation zero, Jurassic World, Darksiders or Yakuza 2 - for less than a Euro in average I'm more than happy even If I won't ever play some of them.

[tmwfte]

Had Matter님이 먼저 게시:

Got a lot of gems like Supraland, Generation zero, Jurassic World, Darksiders or Yakuza 2 - for less than a Euro in average I'm more than happy even If I won't ever play some of them.

Humble Choice Represent.

[Had Matter]

tmwfte님이 먼저 게시:

Had Matter님이 먼저 게시:

Got a lot of gems like Supraland, Generation zero, Jurassic World, Darksiders or Yakuza 2 - for less than a Euro in average I'm more than happy even If I won't ever play some of them.

Humble Choice Represent.

The last bundle was a letdown to be honest but since you can skip it's Not a problem.

[Orb]

Cathulhu님이 먼저 게시:

Mythical Ostrich님이 먼저 게시:

Even though I personally don't use it, I'm REALLY impressed by what Xbox has done with the pass, sharing, etc. It's next level. I hope Valve takes some notes.

Like, charging money to be able to play multiplayer?

I prefer to be on PC so I don't want to turn this into a general console vs PC thing. That being said in my case it doesn't really matter that you get charged $70 a year to play online. My gf and I both play online games together and with Xbox any games I purchased was shared with her. We could play online together or single player games it didn't matter.

It still cheaper than buying every game we play twice and that's all I'm saying. This family sharing plan is really not as good as what is offered by Xbox and hopefully that can change one day.

[tmwfte]

Had Matter님이 먼저 게시:

The last bundle was a letdown to be honest but since you can skip it's Not a problem.

Knocked a few things off my wishlist (Chaosbane, Song of Horror, Ancestors, Pathologic 2, and the Vampire: The Masquerade game). Can't really complain, myself.

[Had Matter]

Orb님이 먼저 게시:

Cathulhu님이 먼저 게시:

Like, charging money to be able to play multiplayer?

I prefer to be on PC so I don't want to turn this into a general console vs PC thing. That being said in my case it doesn't really matter that you get charged $70 a year to play online. My gf and I both play online games together and with Xbox any games I purchased was shared with her. We could play online together or single player games it didn't matter.

It still cheaper than buying every game we play twice and that's all I'm saying. This family sharing plan is really not as good as what is offered by Xbox and hopefully that can change one day.

The family sharing won't change on Steam because every freedom Valve grants gets abused. There are many examples of loopholes and exploits in the past. People would simply abuse family sharing as you describe it by making it a game rental service. That's why we can't have anything nice.

[Mythical Ostrich]

Cathulhu님이 먼저 게시:

Like, charging money to be able to play multiplayer?

No, I'm specifically referring to the subject, game sharing. Playing games is free on PC anyway.
Aren't they removing the gold pass thing? I don't remember, I don't have xbox or its pass.

[Satoru]

The issue is more that xbox has pure vertical integration of the hardware and software stack. It also has a powerful and expensive tools.
* Banning your console
* Banning your account
* Banning any account that has ever logged into the console
* Banning other consoles tainted accounts have logged into.

Steam at worst can shut down an account. That's not that relevant since anyone trying to abuse the system will ensure the account has as least value as possible. Meaning they only have to extract as much value as a single game costs. After that if the account is terminated its irrelevant. It also allows them to scale that to many accounts as well. They can have hundreds of accounts running simultaneously with zero risk.

Again on xbox, ms can ban your system console from EVERYTHING. It not only will do that, it has the ability to :

1) any account thats shared with the banned account
2) any account that has even breathed on a banned console
3) Ban other console that banned account has ever logged into

This makes it EXTREMELY unattractive to both the person trying to 'rent' out an account, but also to any potential customers who risk their online accounts and their entire console from being banned.

These are things steam can't enforce which is why steam has to make its sharing more restrictive because it has no nuclear options to prevent abuse.

[Orb]

Had Matter님이 먼저 게시:

Orb님이 먼저 게시:

I prefer to be on PC so I don't want to turn this into a general console vs PC thing. That being said in my case it doesn't really matter that you get charged $70 a year to play online. My gf and I both play online games together and with Xbox any games I purchased was shared with her. We could play online together or single player games it didn't matter.

It still cheaper than buying every game we play twice and that's all I'm saying. This family sharing plan is really not as good as what is offered by Xbox and hopefully that can change one day.

The family sharing won't change on Steam because every freedom Valve grants gets abused. There are many examples of loopholes and exploits in the past. People would simply abuse family sharing as you describe it by making it a game rental service. That's why we can't have anything nice.

Ugh, I hear you

Cheers,