Epic is starting to worry me

[Quadsword]

Despite massive backlash from their practices, Epic hasn’t let up even slightly. They have financial backing from Disney and Tencent, two of the largest corporations in the world, and a massive cash flow from Fortnite and unreal engine, the former being the most popular game in the world and the latter being the most popular commercial game engine in the world.

I feel like no amount of consumer backlash will stop them getting the monopoly they obviously want. They can just keep throwing money around until they control the entire games industry. I miss the days before mega corporations entered this industry.

[plutone00]

Every corporation's end goal is to make money, not spend it. This whole Epic buying a few exclusives situation has been artificially magnified by both gaming media and bloggers so they'd have something to write about. Reporters need a a story not actual news. Same way it's always been. So stop worrying.

[Ratnadhatamam]

Yeah man, like for real. And Steam OS will bring Windows to the ground, AND Nvidia Shield will be the end PS/XBOX.

[leadmecca]

Tencent is over a 400 billion dollar company with nearly a trillion in backing from various companies foreign and domestic, they can bribe whoever the hell they want. Most are going to take the cash upfront even at final sales being a wash. Valve cannot toss around 5 and 6 figure upfront payments to every developer or studio.

[Xite >X< 👁️👁 🇦🇺]

Originally posted by leadmecca:

Valve cannot toss around 5 and 6 figure upfront payments to every developer or studio.

Could if the wanted to, they have plenty of loot, but why should they.

[Wild]

yeah but epic ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ sucks

[secuda]

Originally posted by leadmecca:

Tencent is over a 400 billion dollar company with nearly a trillion in backing from various companies foreign and domestic, they can bribe whoever the hell they want. Most are going to take the cash upfront even at final sales being a wash. Valve cannot toss around 5 and 6 figure upfront payments to every developer or studio.

Saying valve is a poor western company is a misstake, especially when they have been surviving this long without having financiall trouble. Unlike god old games for example.
Valve could easily do that but then again why? Their big userbase speaks for themself.

Gaining few exclusive to their store should not be caise for alarm when we have twice the backlogg of their games library.

[leadmecca]

3 Billion Dollars? I never said poor, but I don't think for their bottom line they can afford to do what China can. What I hear most is, EGS can't do it forever, to which I say, yes, yes they can, and they can purchase any studio that they meet the price to program for them only. If Gabe dumped everything, 1.5 Billion to epeen fight tencent, that would be suicide for Valve. I'm certain Gabe is pleased and proud with how valve is.

[Sa†o]

Originally posted by leadmecca:

3 Billion Dollars? I never said poor, but I don't think for their bottom line they can afford to do what China can. What I hear most is, EGS can't do it forever, to which I say, yes, yes they can, and they can purchase any studio that they meet the price to program for them only. If Gabe dumped everything, 1.5 Billion to epeen fight tencent, that would be suicide for Valve. I'm certain Gabe is pleased and proud with how valve is.

People forget that you don't need a good product to make money, you only need money to make money.

The biggest retail companies killed off all the smaller stores this way. Open up, lower prices or get exclusive selling right to certain brands, keep losing money untill you bleed the rest of the stores dry. Once they close up raise the price higher than all the other stores that close down and voila, market is yours.

[Potato Marshal]

Still way too early for EGS, I have more games in my Steam account than EGS has in their entire store. Don't expect it to be any competition for Steam until a few more years down the line.

[KiRA]

Originally posted by leadmecca:

Tencent is over a 400 billion dollar company with nearly a trillion in backing from various companies foreign and domestic, they can bribe whoever the hell they want. Most are going to take the cash upfront even at final sales being a wash. Valve cannot toss around 5 and 6 figure upfront payments to every developer or studio.

HL3 will save the day

[Lunacy]

Originally posted by KiRA (BLZ):

HL3 will save the day

inb4 Epic tries to buy HL3

[Dux Aquila]

Originally posted by Lunacy:

Originally posted by KiRA (BLZ):

HL3 will save the day

inb4 Epic tries to buy HL3

>1-year EGS exclusivity for HL3
What a time to be alive

[Orge Lambart]

Originally posted by Quadsword:

Despite massive backlash from their practices, Epic hasn’t let up even slightly. They have financial backing from Disney and Tencent, two of the largest corporations in the world, and a massive cash flow from Fortnite and unreal engine, the former being the most popular game in the world and the latter being the most popular commercial game engine in the world.

I feel like no amount of consumer backlash will stop them getting the monopoly they obviously want. They can just keep throwing money around until they control the entire games industry. I miss the days before mega corporations entered this industry.

Where are you hearing Disney is backing Epic.. I haven't seen anything about that.. news to me..

As for Tencent.. in all honesty, how long do you think they'll want to be on board while Epic games loses money.. That's the big cog in the works.. Fortnite is making lots of money so the Epic store losses aren't too big of a deal, because those losses are re-couped by Fortnite.. If Fortnite dives or Epic starts losing too much money Tencent will apply pressure to Sweeney and things will change..

Tencent wants as much money as possible and right now I can't see how Epic is making money aside from Fortnite.. Yeah I know they have the Unreal engine but they weren't really swimming in money prior to Fortnite.. that game is what keeps the cash cow going..

As for Exclusivity, outside of Borderlands 3, and possibly the Ubi games (which most people will just buy straight from Uplay) they haven't gotten much of a return on the investment. considering they are paying millions to the publishers/developers for exclusive rights for a year..

It'll also be really interesting come December and January when games start to end their Epic exclusive period and release on steam.. Would be pretty ugly if a game releases on steam and outsells in a month what it sold for a whole year on Epic, which IN all honesty isn't that far of a stretch..

Only way Epic puts any fear in Valve is if they pull down lifetime exclusive rights or something like that.. one year isn't a big deal.. most gamers have massive backlogs anyway..

[8ullfrog]

tencent got 40% of epic for 300 million. Fortnite made that in one month (May 2018)

I'd say they got a pretty good return on investment.

Essentially, epic can afford these money pissing adventures because fornite is a license to print money.

I do wonder how epic plans to handle the eventual tulip crash.

[PocketYoda]

I don't care how much money or games they steal, i still wont use it. I'd rather quit gaming completely than ever use that malware.