No POSTAL 2 on Steam (Germany IP)

[MarutaBeibi]

Hi, my friend crafted badges so he got an coupon 66% for POSTAL 2 that he gaved to me because i wanted it and when i want to buy the game from that coupon, it doesnt give me in store. After a while he got another coupon for postal 2 with 50% sale and he can see it and hes from Romania... if he buys it for me as a gift, can i play it? or it will be sort of disabled game on my steam library?

[MarutaBeibi]

Originally posted by cSg|mc-Hotsauce:

https://steamcommunity.com/app/223470/discussions/0/358416640400249450/

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I still dont see if someone gift me this game i still can play it...

[MarutaBeibi]

Originally posted by cSg|mc-Hotsauce:

Tell him to try it and see if he can gift it.

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He can, i mean he can gift, put his info about payment, and then just click continue... but idk if i receive the game in library, it could be blocked because of country?

[Sorrow]

It might be banned in Germany.
And the answer to your question is YES, you will be able to play it safely from your library.
The version he woud be gifting is ROW and not region locked.

[cinedine]

It works. I have it playable on my account.

Originally posted by Sorrow:

It might be banned in Germany.

It's not. "Banned" as in completely forbidden is a very rare occassion in Germany. Most games are just not allowed to be advertised or sold over the counter. Which is the case here.

[Sorrow]

Originally posted by cinedine:

It works. I have it playable on my account.

Originally posted by Sorrow:

It might be banned in Germany.

It's not. "Banned" as in completely forbidden is a very rare occassion in Germany. Most games are just not allowed to be advertised or sold over the counter. Which is the case here.

Which in translation means its BANNED from steam store.
Thank you.

[cinedine]

Originally posted by Sorrow:

Originally posted by cinedine:

It works. I have it playable on my account.


It's not. "Banned" as in completely forbidden is a very rare occassion in Germany. Most games are just not allowed to be advertised or sold over the counter. Which is the case here.

Which in translation means its BANNED from steam store.
Thank you.

The store page is region locked. As I just tried to tell you: banning a media is something completely different in Germany. Please don't conflate the terms. If the game was banned (beschlagnahmt) Steam would not be allowed to sell or even distribute! it (i.e. allow it to be downloaded) to Germans.

[Sorrow]

Originally posted by cinedine:

Originally posted by Sorrow:

Which in translation means its BANNED from steam store.
Thank you.

The store page is region locked. As I just tried to tell you: banning a media is something completely different in Germany. Please don't conflate the terms. If the game was banned (beschlagnahmt) Steam would not be allowed to sell or even distribute! it (i.e. allow it to be downloaded) to Germans.

And it DOESN'T sell it to germans.
Can you buy it from german store? No.

We are talking about gifting the ROW copy of a game here.
That has nothing to do with the region locked country store.

Learn the difference please... and read what you are typing before posting it again.
Anyway, the OP already got his answer so any further debate is irrelevant in here.

[Muppet among Puppets]

Originally posted by cinedine:

If the game was banned (beschlagnahmt) Steam would not be allowed to sell or even distribute! it (i.e. allow it to be downloaded) to Germans.

Even that is not the case if you own the game already.
Or buy it elsewhere.

Seized means, there are no copies in the country shop to sell.

[cinedine]

Originally posted by Muppet among Puppets:

Originally posted by cinedine:

If the game was banned (beschlagnahmt) Steam would not be allowed to sell or even distribute! it (i.e. allow it to be downloaded) to Germans.

Even that is not the case if you own the game already.
Or buy it elsewhere.

Seized means, there are no copies in the country shop to sell.

It means a lot more. And Steam is lucky that there have no yet been any investigations into them breaking the law. *cough* selling games to underaged *cough*.

Originally posted by Sorrow:

Learn the difference please... and read what you are typing before posting it again.

Yes, please do. I just explained the difference. You chose to ignore it though you even quoted it.

[MarutaBeibi]

Lmao

[Muppet among Puppets]

Originally posted by cinedine:

Originally posted by Muppet among Puppets:

Even that is not the case if you own the game already.
Or buy it elsewhere.

Seized means, there are no copies in the country shop to sell.

It means a lot more.

Indiziert means, its off the eyes.
Seized means, it is away from the local store.

If it meant more, they would come to your house to get the movie or the game you bought.
Read about it. If its a medium that has no criminal status, it means what i said.

[cinedine]

Originally posted by Muppet among Puppets:

Originally posted by cinedine:

It means a lot more.

Indiziert means, its off the eyes.
Seized means, it is away from the local store.

If it meant more, they would come to your house to get the movie or the game you bought.
Read about it. If its a medium that has no criminal status, it means what i said.

Originally posted by §131 StGB:

(1) Wer Schriften, die grausame oder sonst unmenschliche Gewalttätigkeiten gegen Menschen oder menschenähnliche Wesen in einer Art schildern, die eine Verherrlichung oder Verharmlosung solcher Gewalttätigkeiten ausdrückt oder die das Grausame oder Unmenschliche des Vorgangs in einer die Menschenwürde verletzenden Weise darstellt,
1. verbreitet,
2. öffentlich ausstellt, anschlägt, vorführt oder sonst zugänglich macht,
3. einer Person unter achtzehn Jahren anbietet, überläßt oder zugänglich macht oder
[...]

(The same offenses are listed for inticing hate speech (§130), instructions on crimes (§130a), bestiality and violence, as well as child pornograpyh (§184a u. §184b); all StGB.)

I don't need to read it. I know what it means. DISTRIBUTION and PROVISION is also a criminal offense. So yeah, it means more.

That's why "banned" is entirely the wrong word to use when talking about Germany. The legalities surrounding this topic are more facetted. Especially for using a term that gamers made near void of any meaning.

[Muppet among Puppets]

Originally posted by cinedine:

Originally posted by Muppet among Puppets:

Indiziert means, its off the eyes.
Seized means, it is away from the local store.

If it meant more, they would come to your house to get the movie or the game you bought.
Read about it. If its a medium that has no criminal status, it means what i said.

Originally posted by §131 StGB:

(1) Wer Schriften, die grausame oder sonst unmenschliche Gewalttätigkeiten gegen Menschen oder menschenähnliche Wesen in einer Art schildern, die eine Verherrlichung oder Verharmlosung solcher Gewalttätigkeiten ausdrückt oder die das Grausame oder Unmenschliche des Vorgangs in einer die Menschenwürde verletzenden Weise darstellt,
1. verbreitet,
2. öffentlich ausstellt, anschlägt, vorführt oder sonst zugänglich macht,
3. einer Person unter achtzehn Jahren anbietet, überläßt oder zugänglich macht oder
[...]

(The same offenses are listed for inticing hate speech (§130), instructions on crimes (§130a), bestiality and violence, as well as child pornograpyh (§184a u. §184b); all StGB.)

I don't need to read it. I know what it means. DISTRIBUTION and PROVISION is also a criminal offense. So yeah, it means more.

That's why "banned" is entirely the wrong word to use when talking about Germany. The legalities surrounding this topic are more facetted. Especially for using a term that gamers made near void of any meaning.

How can someone distribute a game to you that is already owned by you?

What happens if you bought a game on cd that gets seized status? Will you destroy it and wash your eyes?

If you buy a movie replaying it does not mean it gets distributed each time.
You playing the game does not mean you or the seller does what your quote says.

https://www.giga.de/spiele/ratgeber/specials/indizierung-erklart-was-steckt-hinter-liste-a-liste-b-und-dem-prufungsverfahren-der-bpjm/

[cinedine]

You don't own anything on Steam.
You do own the physical media the material is printed on. That's different from digital. The platform provides access to the media.

Seriously ... must be this time again ...

[Muppet among Puppets]

Originally posted by cinedine:

You don't own anything on Steam.
You do own the physical media the material is printed on. That's different from digital. The platform provides access to the media.

Seriously ... must be this time again ...

The media is protected with password. So its even safer than having the cd in your home.
Its not distributed when you own it.

Its the same as when you own the cd. Just safer.

If you quote laws, understand the context. The law does not say that you are not allowed to play it. Therefore owning it, installing it, playing it is fine.
The only thing steam is involved in is the installing bit. That is not distributing, as the purchase is required to be able to install. And the purchase did not happen in the local store. But it happened already.