Gere Sep 28, 2018 @ 2:21pm
Choose less commonly used password
So, I had to change my password.... again... cause I had something complex that I HAD to use before and forgot. WHY TF do you have this riddiculous requirement that NO OTHER similar service has???? It is tiresome and stupid and WILL NOT help against hackers and such. Seriously, try thinking with your brain.
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Snapjak Sep 28, 2018 @ 2:24pm 
So then reuse and get hijacked. See if anyone else cares?

If you can't understand why having a unique strong password is a good thing, then stop using the internet entirely.
Drab Sep 28, 2018 @ 2:24pm 
Almost every service has that requirement now.
Last edited by Drab; Sep 28, 2018 @ 2:25pm
cinedine Sep 28, 2018 @ 2:24pm 
Every service worth its salt rejects passwords found on top 100 or even 1000 of common passwords.

If your password is "password", "123456", "secret" ... you might as well not have one at all.
Gere Sep 28, 2018 @ 2:29pm 
Yeah, if you think kurvadrat1! is commonly used password.... I dunno mate, I use Uplay, Gog, has accounts all over the gaming websites but NEVER had this kind of problems. It is just wasting my time, even though I have mobile phone verification this ♥♥♥♥ is still there....!!!
Snapjak Sep 28, 2018 @ 2:34pm 
Yes, lets use commonly used profanity as a password.

Good grief.
cinedine Sep 28, 2018 @ 2:44pm 
Telling us your password is probably not the smartest move.

Other commonly rejected passwords are your username in whole or part or your email address.

johndoe@example.com for example would not be allowed to use johndoe666 as password. Including common leet speak substitutions.
prot0mega Sep 28, 2018 @ 3:04pm 
Use a password manager such as keepass and the like. Secure all your passwords with 1 master password. As long as you remember your master password and backup the key database regularly you won't ever forget your password again. They can also generate random strings as passwords which can't be cracked easily with dictionary attack.
NS Plover Sep 28, 2018 @ 4:38pm 
Or pick a password you'll remember and put two or three characters around each side - like () _ * ! - makes it a stronger password yet still easy to remember _(*password*)_ for example...
Morphic Sep 28, 2018 @ 5:07pm 
Originally posted by NS Plover:
Or pick a password you'll remember and put two or three characters around each side - like () _ * ! - makes it a stronger password yet still easy to remember _(*password*)_ for example...

I like using a combination of "leet speak", symbols and alternating capitals. So, for example, a password might look like: R4gN@_13lo0D3dGe

When I go to log in I'd remember that its Ragna Bloodedge, just gotta remember if I started with a Cap or not lol. IMO, a dictionary attack isn't going to crack that anytime soon.
cinedine Sep 28, 2018 @ 5:31pm 
Originally posted by Setzway:
a dictionary attack isn't going to crack that anytime soon.

It will. LeeSpeak is so commonly used for passwords that it has long been incorporated into common attack patterns. FFS it was used to circumvent spam filters in the 90s. LeetSpeak itself was created in the 80s. That's almost 40 ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ years ago.
It's as safe as using "654321" and "p4$$w0rd" is one of the most common passwords.
8ullfrog Sep 28, 2018 @ 5:38pm 
Plus using brackets resets password guess attempts. Wait, that's fallout.
Forcen Sep 28, 2018 @ 5:43pm 
That password is in this list: https://haveibeenpwned.com/Passwords
Steam probably downloads this list and pick the ones that are used more than X times.
Start_Running Sep 28, 2018 @ 6:12pm 
Originally posted by cinedine:
Originally posted by Setzway:
a dictionary attack isn't going to crack that anytime soon.

It will. LeeSpeak is so commonly used for passwords that it has long been incorporated into common attack patterns. FFS it was used to circumvent spam filters in the 90s. LeetSpeak itself was created in the 80s. That's almost 40 ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ years ago.
It's as safe as using "654321" and "p4$$w0rd" is one of the most common passwords.
The thing is It's not entirely ineffective. It's a matter of what you choose to apply leet speak to. Apply it to an uncommon word like 'clandestine' to turn it into something like 'Cl@nd3st1n3' and you've got something pretty confounding.

The joke is. no onee uses dictionary attacks against web accounts. They just use packet sniffers and keyloggers.
Morphic Sep 28, 2018 @ 6:25pm 
Originally posted by Start_Running:
Originally posted by cinedine:

It will. LeeSpeak is so commonly used for passwords that it has long been incorporated into common attack patterns. FFS it was used to circumvent spam filters in the 90s. LeetSpeak itself was created in the 80s. That's almost 40 ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ years ago.
It's as safe as using "654321" and "p4$$w0rd" is one of the most common passwords.
The thing is It's not entirely ineffective. It's a matter of what you choose to apply leet speak to. Apply it to an uncommon word like 'clandestine' to turn it into something like 'Cl@nd3st1n3' and you've got something pretty confounding.

Yeah, now throw some more symbols or seperate it using brackets or something and it gets even more complicated. "Cl@[nd]_3st1-n3"

This is why I brought up using multiple things in combination to help create a strong password. Sure, "2gNyC]938u}1H5m" may be a strong password but no normal/average person is going to remember that...

So they get Password Managers ... which have proven to have flaws or not be as secure as people think. Remeber LastPass being hacked, twice? Managers are a great tool but they can be compromised too.

Originally posted by Start_Running:
The joke is. no onee uses dictionary attacks against web accounts. They just use packet sniffers and keyloggers.

That's probably why I like the idea of using "Virtual Keyboards".

Though I'm of the belief that anything can be hacked given enough time. I mean, theorectically some dude can sit there with a bot slamming away for a password login.... 'Course I also believe safe browsing habits and using a ScriptBlocker on your Web Browser goes a much farther way to avoid getting compromised. Then again, I'm biased since literally nothing I've had in ~20 years has been compromised. Well, except my PSN but that was Sony's fault.(good thing I didn't use my CC on it and only used paid cards lol)
Last edited by Morphic; Sep 28, 2018 @ 6:32pm
A password isnt safe 63c4u53 its hard to type.

Use more than one word and space instead. With a sign and number. Maybe put a mistake in the word. Or use two languages.
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