Family Share... But only 1 at a time????

[F.U.N.K.]

I'm sorry but I have to ask STEAM...... What is the point of Family Share.... If only one person can access a Game Library at a time......

Isn't the whole point of Family Share to allow Family members to share multiple accounts within their family???
But only one at a time????
That makes no sense.....
Its no different than just logging in and out of each account individually.
I would like My Children to be able to play their games that I bought for them, at their own house on their own computers While I'm still logged into Steam on My Computer......
Seriously... this is so dumb.

[Tito Shivan]

Escrito originalmente por Eisberg:

as in being in the same house.

And how do you define "house" for Steam? All the computers in the same LAN?

My office hosts +200 computers in the same "house".
A cybercafe has all the computers in the same "house".
A college dorm room is also a single "house".

I probably have around 10 computers I could run Steam with in my own "house"

Can you see the potential for abuse within the same "house"?

[DarkStarKnight]

Escrito originalmente por F.U.N.K.:

I'm sorry but I have to ask STEAM...... What is the point of Family Share.... If only one person can access a Game Library at a time......

Isn't the whole point of Family Share to allow Family members to share multiple accounts within their family???
But only one at a time????
That makes no sense.....
Its no different than just logging in and out of each account individually.
I would like My Children to be able to play their games that I bought for them, at their own house on their own computers While I'm still logged into Steam on My Computer......
Seriously... this is so dumb.

Why not make your kids their own accounts?

[F.U.N.K.]

OMG, Ya all are missing the point.... We have two accounts... I have an account and my ex-wife has an account.... I'm sure there are many other families out there like this. I'm not going to buy multiple copies of games.... and I'm not going to buy games for my ex-wifes's account....
The Family sharing option exists so they can play any of their games on either computer...... But it then restricts the ENTIRE game library to one person at a time. A "FAMILY"... is not one person....... We have multiple people and hundreds of games in our library..... and lots of computers and devices..... But only ONE person can access it at a time...... It completely defeats the whole purpose of "FAMILY SHARING" .........Really frustrating.

[feena]

Escrito originalmente por F.U.N.K.:

OMG, Ya all are missing the point.... We have two accounts... I have an account and my ex-wife has an account.... I'm sure there are many other families out there like this. I'm not going to buy multiple copies of games.... and I'm not going to buy games for my ex-wifes's account....
The Family sharing option exists so they can play any of their games on either computer...... But it then restricts the ENTIRE game library to one person at a time. A "FAMILY"... is not one person....... We have multiple people and hundreds of games in our library..... and lots of computers and devices..... But only ONE person can access it at a time...... It completely defeats the whole purpose of "FAMILY SHARING" .........Really frustrating.

You're taking the term(s) too literally. I understand your position, but as others have said / alluded to, there are conditions and limitations in place you just have to accept. Family sharing is optional--Valve and publishers aren't obligated to provide you this aspect of this service by default--regardless of your stance or feelings.

[8ullfrog]

Can multiple people use the same toilet at the same time? No. That would be disgusting.


Get your kids their own accounts, and if you don't want to buy them games, let them play F2P stuff.

[werhsre334]

Escrito originalmente por Tito Shivan:

Escrito originalmente por Eisberg:

as in being in the same house.

And how do you define "house" for Steam? All the computers in the same LAN?

My office hosts +200 computers in the same "house".
A cybercafe has all the computers in the same "house".
A college dorm room is also a single "house".

I probably have around 10 computers I could run Steam with in my own "house"

Can you see the potential for abuse within the same "house"?

Only if you really struggle with the concept of "house", sure I could see how it might be a quandary.

[AmsterdamHeavy]

Escrito originalmente por Rogers Brother:

Escrito originalmente por Tito Shivan:

And how do you define "house" for Steam? All the computers in the same LAN?

My office hosts +200 computers in the same "house".
A cybercafe has all the computers in the same "house".
A college dorm room is also a single "house".

I probably have around 10 computers I could run Steam with in my own "house"

Can you see the potential for abuse within the same "house"?

Only if you really struggle with the concept of "house", sure I could see how it might be a quandary.

You have no concept of what he described there, do you?

I'll add another to illustrate.

I could use Game Ranger or Hamachi or whatever, and all of those people would be "in my household" as far as network appearances.

[Linguala]

I see a lot of people facing the issue I do, but unable to explain themselves.

Let me explain my situation:
I personally have 1 computer and 1 laptop. IF I use discs, I could install and play game A on my computer and game B on my laptop.
Steam does not allow me to do so. The library being shared means that if I play game A on my computer, I can't play game B on my laptop.
Many people will now think "you can't play 2 games at the same time". To them, I say: "check out idle games". There are a lot of games out there where you don't really need to do much inputting.

I hope above explanation is sufficient. With that in mind, I would like to be able to play game A on my computer and game B, both of which on my ONLY account, on my laptop at the same time.

This is not the same as me buying game F just once for myself and sharing it with all my friends and family to play that same game F at the same time as me! This is also NOT what I want.
I want my game A to work for me on MY account while I play game B on that same account of mine.


The way Steam is now, I would have to make a different account for each and every game if I want to be able to play any game at the same time as another game. While this might be ok for occational gamers who only own maybe up to 5 or 6 games, for gamers who have over 20 games, the list of accounts to keep track of is not feasible.

[AmsterdamHeavy]

Escrito originalmente por linguala:

I see a lot of people facing the issue I do, but unable to explain themselves.

Let me explain my situation:
I personally have 1 computer and 1 laptop. IF I use discs, I could install and play game A on my computer and game B on my laptop.
Steam does not allow me to do so. The library being shared means that if I play game A on my computer, I can't play game B on my laptop.
Many people will now think "you can't play 2 games at the same time". To them, I say: "check out idle games". There are a lot of games out there where you don't really need to do much inputting.

I hope above explanation is sufficient. With that in mind, I would like to be able to play game A on my computer and game B, both of which on my ONLY account, on my laptop at the same time.

This is not the same as me buying game F just once for myself and sharing it with all my friends and family to play that same game F at the same time as me! This is also NOT what I want.
I want my game A to work for me on MY account while I play game B on that same account of mine.


The way Steam is now, I would have to make a different account for each and every game if I want to be able to play any game at the same time as another game. While this might be ok for occational gamers who only own maybe up to 5 or 6 games, for gamers who have over 20 games, the list of accounts to keep track of is not feasible.

Because YOUR ACCOUNT, singular, can only be signed in from one place at one time...and if this was allowed, yes, it is EXACTLY the same as if you shared it with those people you mention.

[76561198407601200]

Escrito originalmente por F.U.N.K.:

OMG, Ya all are missing the point.... We have two accounts... I have an account and my ex-wife has an account.... I'm sure there are many other families out there like this. I'm not going to buy multiple copies of games.... and I'm not going to buy games for my ex-wifes's account....
The Family sharing option exists so they can play any of their games on either computer...... But it then restricts the ENTIRE game library to one person at a time. A "FAMILY"... is not one person....... We have multiple people and hundreds of games in our library..... and lots of computers and devices..... But only ONE person can access it at a time...... It completely defeats the whole purpose of "FAMILY SHARING" .........Really frustrating.

It's to prevent you from renting out your library.

[Lunacy]

Think of it as having 1 console and 1 TV.
Only one person can play one specific game or watch a show at any one time.
If you wanted multiple people to play different games at the same time, you'd have to buy a 2nd television and 2nd game console and 2nd game.

Family Share works the way it does for security and profit reasons. They don't want people to just make a 2nd free account to cheat on, and they don't want a random multi-user account where people could play free games on.

If the game has local coop, you could try Parsec

[F.U.N.K.]

Yeah, I understand why it's that way.
What I'm saying is..... There is NO POINT to the "Family Share" feature.... when its still one person at a time......
It is Literally no different than just logging out of one account and logging in to the other one. The only difference being, you don't want other family members to have your login credentials......
It's just stupid.....

Yeah I get that it opens the door for abuse........ But c'mon.... You're STEAM..... You guys are Smart!!! I would think you could figure out a way to let families access their games while preventing people from abusing the system..... Like allowing kids to be sub-users on the account or something.

[Aahzmandias]

Escrito originalmente por F.U.N.K.:

I'm sorry but I have to ask STEAM...... What is the point of Family Share.... If only one person can access a Game Library at a time......

Isn't the whole point of Family Share to allow Family members to share multiple accounts within their family???
But only one at a time????
That makes no sense.....
Its no different than just logging in and out of each account individually.
I would like My Children to be able to play their games that I bought for them, at their own house on their own computers While I'm still logged into Steam on My Computer......
Seriously... this is so dumb.

Yes it is.

If you transfer that thought on books, you have to give away ALL your books, instead of handing out just the one another person wants to read.

You can get around this by going offline, playing your game, while the other person plays the game you borrowed him/her. But it still dumb as ♥♥♥♥.

And for people who say that this can be abused. They are fools or company shills. You can only put 5 members into your family sharing. And people are only able to play ONE ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ game at a time.

If they do not change this in the near future, they will get problems in Europe. The EU plans to change laws for digital goods, make them equal in handling to normal ones. And I a very sure, that I am able and allowed to lend another person ONE physical book, and not the whole library ... It is OK as long as I am not able to use it the same time ....

They should change their system into a borrow and lend system, where you are able to give a person a specific game. That would solve all their problems, if they still restrict the number of persons you "give" your games to. They can work this into their firiend system with a flag for family share members, so that they could even ask online on the fly for a game.

Simplicity itself. A simple flag in the friends list, and a flag at the game itself ... online, of course ... that it is temporary unavailable, t could replace their whole overkill sytem, they have now.

And they would finally act customer protection law conform.

[StickyPawz]

Escrito originalmente por F.U.N.K.:

Yeah, I understand why it's that way.
What I'm saying is..... There is NO POINT to the "Family Share" feature.... when its still one person at a time......

It works best if you family share with folks that game when you're normally offline. If the "borrowers" can't work around your hours, then yeah, they're gonna have to play something else.

[Linguala]

Escrito originalmente por AmsterdamHeavy:

Escrito originalmente por linguala:

I see a lot of people facing the issue I do, but unable to explain themselves.

Let me explain my situation:
I personally have 1 computer and 1 laptop. IF I use discs, I could install and play game A on my computer and game B on my laptop.
Steam does not allow me to do so. The library being shared means that if I play game A on my computer, I can't play game B on my laptop.
Many people will now think "you can't play 2 games at the same time". To them, I say: "check out idle games". There are a lot of games out there where you don't really need to do much inputting.

I hope above explanation is sufficient. With that in mind, I would like to be able to play game A on my computer and game B, both of which on my ONLY account, on my laptop at the same time.

This is not the same as me buying game F just once for myself and sharing it with all my friends and family to play that same game F at the same time as me! This is also NOT what I want.
I want my game A to work for me on MY account while I play game B on that same account of mine.


The way Steam is now, I would have to make a different account for each and every game if I want to be able to play any game at the same time as another game. While this might be ok for occational gamers who only own maybe up to 5 or 6 games, for gamers who have over 20 games, the list of accounts to keep track of is not feasible.

Because YOUR ACCOUNT, singular, can only be signed in from one place at one time...and if this was allowed, yes, it is EXACTLY the same as if you shared it with those people you mention.

I know for a fact that I can log into MY account on both my laptop and desktop at the same time in online mode! Fact because I've been doing this for at least a year or so.

So, coming back to the point of the matter... I still want to be able to play a couple games at the same time without having to make different Steam accounts.
If this is unachievable, I will never buy games on Steam anymore.