Steam awards, could they be worse?

[Anna]

I just voted for 8 games I don't have, never played and never heard about. And my votes are as important as everyone else. I'm bad peson of cource, but steam insist me to do it, it pays me for doing so with cards. Sure I'll vote, why not, why should i care.

VR games? Good luck with fair rating. Billions of guys who own CS and HL2 only will vote to determine the best. I bet bordelends will win because crowds heard about franchise. Otherwise it would became voting for the prettiest logo. Does it have anything at least slightly related with actual quality of the games? Not at all.

Does steam actually want some at least slightly fair rewards? Labor of love? No way some indy studio ever beat any mass market product with such system. Regardless any amount of love and labor.

I literraly can't find a way to make this "reward" worse.

[Lunacy]

Honestly I'm surprirsed Borderlands 2 VR made it to nominations considering how terrible it actually is (broken gameplay and bad vr)

[Kargor]

Escrito originalmente por cSg|mc-Hotsauce:

Escrito originalmente por Syrrah:

Nothing wrong with the awards themselves, but Valve should have given everyone the option to vote blank for each category.

For VR I voted on what seemed most fun to me, but I never touched VR in my life. I would have preferred to skip a vote if that was possible.

It gets suggested every year to abstain from voting but that defeats the purpose of participating.

:qr:

It really depends on what you're looking for.

Most of my votes are trash -- so how's that a "good vote"? I get 8 cards for 8 votes, so I'll cast 8 votes. I don't know a thing about 7 categories? Whoc ares, this is about quantity, not quality.

If they didn't give any rewards I might have cast one vote because I believe it's OK, and not cast the 7 other ones. Or none at all, that's certainly possible too -- I'm not a publisher, I don't care about awards.

Steam could completely automate this. How about a "The platinumbest game of 2019" (counting how many people have 100% achievements. Oh, I hear complaints about some publishers not doing Steam achievements? Well then, this is a Steam award... they can just as well bias towards games that actually support Steam), "Most sold, least played" game, "Community Warzone " (most forum bans) etc. Basically stuff they can pull from their databases, possibly with some filters to try and clean up data (like ignoring "obvious" SAM cheats for platinumbest).

And THEN they can add a popular vote at the end: "My game of the year". No nominations, just a single count. Maybe give it rank 1-10, and do let people cast "I don't have a 2019 game" or "I'd rather not give an award to any 2019 game I have".

[Flava Clown]

Escrito originalmente por Rahktor:

Since I didn't know of most of these games I just clicked on the game furtherest to the left in each row. I don't feel like I made a wrong choice. If it really mattered we wouldn't be the once deciding after all.
I got stupid cards and steam got stupid votes. Everyone is happy.

About the wrong choice part, it depends how much you care about certain things and what matters and what doesn't matter to you.

While I can't make a qualified vote on almost all of these games, I can at least NOT vote for games with 3rd party DRM, 3rd party account requirement, micro transactions in a pay-to-play game or for publisher / developer who did / do things I don't want to support.

The fact that Valve has to bribe people with cards to make them vote, shows how much people actually care about the awards and how serious you can take the results.
In the end, it's just to sell more of these games or their in-game items.

[Anna]

For sure it's done to sell more stuff.
But wouldn't meaningful votes result in fair, therefore more popular and more impactfull event?
If you do something for money, it's anyway better to do it good. Especially if it costs you nothing.

[Mailer]

I think the nominations were relatively decent. I am very happy to at least see Disco Elysium nominated in the right category where I think it should be. The VR-options has me a little bummed though, if I am perfectly honest.
No Boneworks nominated there at all? They must have been too late.

[cSg|mc-Hotsauce]

Escrito originalmente por Mailer:

I No Boneworks nominated there at all? They must have been too late.

5 days late. Next year.

[Rahktor]

If they didn't bribe people with cards maybe only the people who actually cared and actually had played the games would vote. I don't know what the correct way would be, but this isn't it. That's for sure.

[󠀡󠀡󠀡⁧⁧the.jester]

It would still end up being a "popularity contest" regardless. I imagine the results would pretty end up the same.

[~Edge~]

Escrito originalmente por eram:

I hope people realise the awards actually don't mean a thing. It's a digital store selling you stuff.

This.
People really should stop complaining about non-existent matters.

[Start_Running]

Escrito originalmente por Rahktor:

If they didn't bribe people with cards maybe only the people who actually cared and actually had played the games would vote. I don't know what the correct way would be, but this isn't it. That's for sure.

Or things would have been the same. You don't have to play something, to have an opinion about it.

[Darren]

Escrito originalmente por Start_Running:

Escrito originalmente por Rahktor:

If they didn't bribe people with cards maybe only the people who actually cared and actually had played the games would vote. I don't know what the correct way would be, but this isn't it. That's for sure.

Or things would have been the same. You don't have to play something, to have an opinion about it.

Indeed, I haven't played any VR games yet. But I've watched enough on YouTube to know Blade and Sorcery was a pretty good one.

[Anna]

It's solvable with amazingly easy approach. Add damn "Don't know" button for the vote, and that's it.

Ok it'll not solve all the problems, but it'll be huge improvement.