Early access developers

[LastDefender]

Create a game.

Put it in early access, so you can always say "that bug will be fixed one day".

Leave the game in early access forever.

Repeat the process (if possible start more projects almost simultaneously).

Cool.

[p0sixkillah]

There is a disclaimer on the store page. You know that you're buying the game in its current state, “as is”.

If you want a more polished version, wait until its launch.

[LastDefender]

Don't worry.

I'm not gonna buy games in early access, unless they're made by reliable studios.

I'm afraid you missed the third step btw: "Leave the game in early access forever".

[p0sixkillah]

Yup, I'm also reluctant to buy an EA title unless I'm sure in its developer.

If you're complaining about the fact some of these get abandoned - I've already pointed that out: "you're buying the game in its current state", so it's always a gamble. Perhaps, the program rules could have been changed, so the developers are obliged to finish their products, but IMO it kinda kills the whole idea of this program.

[Dr.Shadowds 🐉]

If they abandon the game, then people will report them, Steam would contact them, and if they really abandon the game, or show proof they have no desire to finish their game, Steam would most likely tell them to shut their game store page, and letting everyone know they're not going to finish, or Steam will do it for them by removing their game from their store page. I have few games that devs removed their games because they couldn't finish it for whatever reason.

For me I wouldn't touch EA titles anymore unless i'm 100% sure they plan on finishing the game, and the game is in a good state that it's enjoyable.

[LastDefender]

I'm happy we understood each other at some degree, comrade.

I wanna buy a game (which I won't mention) that has been in early access for almost 2 years.
I'm afraid it will never be completed but its cost is not something like just 5 €, you know.

The developer says "Maybe it will be completed".

[p0sixkillah]

I wouldn't buy it, to be honest.

[ReBoot]

Escrito originalmente por LastDefender:

I'm happy we understood each other at some degree, comrade.

I wanna buy a game (which I won't mention) that has been in early access for almost 2 years.
I'm afraid it will never be completed but its cost is not something like just 5 €, you know.

The developer says "Maybe it will be completed".

Dont buy it. Period. Thats IMHO the best way to deal with EA, dont buy into it.

[LastDefender]

Escrito originalmente por ReBoot:

Escrito originalmente por LastDefender:

I'm happy we understood each other at some degree, comrade.

I wanna buy a game (which I won't mention) that has been in early access for almost 2 years.
I'm afraid it will never be completed but its cost is not something like just 5 €, you know.

The developer says "Maybe it will be completed".

Dont buy it. Period. Thats IMHO the best way to deal with EA, dont buy into it.

Ok, but please don't hurt me.

[ReBoot]

Youd be IMHO hurting yourself by buying that particular game, especially after you implied that the game will stay in EA forever.

[LastDefender]

Escrito originalmente por ReBoot:

Youd be IMHO hurting yourself by buying that particular game, especially after you implied that the game will stay in EA forever.

I'd like to buy it, but as I said answering the other comrade p0sixkillah, I'm not gonna do that.

Btw I'm happy you're worried for me, senpai.

[76561198336075197]

can anyone tell when PES 2019 DEMO will be available here?

[LastDefender]

Escrito originalmente por singif9t2:

can anyone tell when PES 2019 DEMO will be available here?

Oh my god, stop spamming all over the forum.

Just type it on Google.

[AVLNCH]

I agree with most of what has been talked about in here.

Whilst I think Early Access is an amazing tool for new developers or startups trying to find their footing whilst building their game ideas through feedback etc. I also think it’s quite a flawed system which is easily abused by people who make so much of a game and then hide it under the label of ‘Early Access’ so they can get their money and stop caring.

Whilst that’s quite an extreme example, it is unfortunately quite common, or more so than people would think. Most developers would either slow down on updates or the quality/size of the updates, however on the rare occasion some games keep going strong from start to finish and then release. I’ve had games I love come out of EA, as well as ideas I love go down the drain because developers took the money and gave up.

[Start_Running]

Escrito originalmente por Avalanche:

I agree with most of what has been talked about in here.

Whilst I think Early Access is an amazing tool for new developers or startups trying to find their footing whilst building their game ideas through feedback etc. I also think it’s quite a flawed system which is easily abused by people who make so much of a game and then hide it under the label of ‘Early Access’ so they can get their money and stop caring.

Or the project simply goes on hold like many game development projects do.

Whilst that’s quite an extreme example, it is unfortunately quite common, or more so than people would think.

Not really. But again, please feel free to post 5 examples of this.

Most developers would either slow down on updates or the quality/size of the updates, however on the rare occasion some games keep going strong from start to finish and then release. I’ve had games I love come out of EA, as well as ideas I love go down the drain because developers took the money and gave up.

Again. that's game development. Thats how it works in larger studios as well.

[ReBoot]

Except with large studios, the money wasted when a project dies isnt the customers money. With EA, it is. Now I dont want to claim that the publisher is aware of the risk and the customer isnt (unless the customer is braindead, but then losing money is well-deserved), but theres a hige dofference between canceling an intern project and a public project.