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Copperfield Oct 30, 2018 @ 3:28am
Steam TOS and ownership of games?
Can anyone explain to me why the games, according to TOS, are owned by vavle itself..

IF this is the case... ( correct me if im wrong )

why do 60% of the games being sold on steam either being abanded by a scam developer or any other reason

If i buy a game in early access and say the game is abanded by its team.. you wont get a refund from vavle, which it should be since vavle owns the game

i @least expect if above is correct that vavle does selection of their products instead of accepting crappy games on their platform
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Theblaze Oct 30, 2018 @ 3:43am 
Valve doesn't own the rights of third-party games and there is also no guarantee an early access game will ever be finished, hence why it's called "early access".
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Winged One Oct 30, 2018 @ 3:53am 
Valve doesn't own the rights to those games, those are still the IP holders property..

What that part is referring to is you don't own any game you buy on steam. You are simply purchasing a license to play them
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Count_Dandyman Oct 30, 2018 @ 3:55am 
If you bought a game in early access you got what you paid for and have no special rights to a refund outside the standard rules if development stops.

If your not willing to accept those rules do yourself and the rest of the world a favour and stop buying them.
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Copperfield Oct 30, 2018 @ 3:57am 
license.... so i dont own any game just a license..

How come they get away with selling complete garbage games on their platform?
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Winged One Oct 30, 2018 @ 4:00am 
Originally posted by Count_Dandyman:
If you bought a game in early access you got what you paid for and have no special rights to a refund outside the standard rules if development stops.

If your not willing to accept those rules do yourself and the rest of the world a favour and stop buying them.
Pretty much.. early access is not pre-ordering..

You are given plenty of warning when purchasing the game that it may not see further development or release, and to only purchase it if you are happy with the game in its current state
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Winged One Oct 30, 2018 @ 4:02am 
Originally posted by Copperfield:
license.... so i dont own any game just a license..

How come they get away with selling complete garbage games on their platform?
Because the term "garbage" is subjective when it comes to entertainment media.. the kind of content you enjoy another hates, and visa versa
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Tito Shivan Oct 30, 2018 @ 4:09am 
Originally posted by Copperfield:
license.... so i dont own any game just a license
As you ever did with every game you bought ever. Software is always licensed, not sold. From your Steam games to your OS copy.
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cinedine Oct 30, 2018 @ 4:10am 
Originally posted by Copperfield:
license.... so i dont own any game just a license..

How come they get away with selling complete garbage games on their platform?

Whydo you buy complete garbage games?
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76561198001062896 Oct 30, 2018 @ 4:19am 
Originally posted by Tito Shivan:
Originally posted by Copperfield:
license.... so i dont own any game just a license
As you ever did with every game you bought ever. Software is always licensed, not sold. From your Steam games to your OS copy.


to which ppl usually like to claim that just because they had the game on a piece of plastic, it suddenly means they owned the game

which roughly translates to the time ppl could freely disregard Tos because devs couldnt enforce it
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Levi Oct 30, 2018 @ 4:27am 
Originally posted by Copperfield:

How come they get away with selling complete garbage games on their platform?

That's because users purchase them.

Preferences vary per individual.

Those "indie trash" titles that you may think of, are supposedly gold for some users.

:yinyangflip:
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76561198001062896 Oct 30, 2018 @ 4:27am 
Originally posted by Robin3sk:
Originally posted by Copperfield:

How come they get away with selling complete garbage games on their platform?

That's because users purchase them.

Preferences vary per individual.

Those "indie trash" titles that you may think of, are supposedly gold for some users.

:yinyangflip:


Yep

those games wouldnt be made if ppl didnt bought them
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Copperfield Oct 30, 2018 @ 4:28am 
if i license for example.. windows 10... i expect that ♥♥♥♥ to work and be updated.. not being abanded or unfinished..

TBH: Valve sells the games through their platform.. i expect them to do some serieus screening..

I am just annoyed by the fact that 50/60% of the products(games) on this platform are complete garbage unfinished games/products

its just how it is currently..
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76561198001062896 Oct 30, 2018 @ 4:29am 
Originally posted by Copperfield:
if i license for example.. windows 10... i expect that ♥♥♥♥ to work and be updated.. not being abanded or unfinished..

TBH: Valve sells the games through their platform.. i expect them to do some serieus screening..

I am just annoyed by the fact that 50/60% of the products(games) on this platform are complete garbage unfinished games/products

its just how it is currently..


your expectation and reality dont match then

also good job throwing random numbers out and calling it as fact .


What screening do you want? they already ban and remove dubious games btw, they cant protect you from all bad decisions
Last edited by Zetikla; Oct 30, 2018 @ 4:30am
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Copperfield Oct 30, 2018 @ 4:31am 
there are a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ of games abanded for years on steam.. and still being sold..

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76561198001062896 Oct 30, 2018 @ 4:33am 
Originally posted by Copperfield:
there are a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ of games abanded for years on steam.. and still being sold..


all games eventually get abandoned as is there is no further development to be done so that doesnt mean a whole lot in itself.

If you mean EAG, reviews, youtube and google are your friends
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