About the future of Steam, because of Play Anywhere (Microsoft)

[Drago]

About the future of Steam, because of Play Anywhere (Microsoft)

Do you think Steam could end up because of Microsoft, to be precise, because of Play Anywhere? I do not know if everyone knows, but Microsoft now has the power to play on two platforms, if you buy the game on PC in the Microsoft store, you can play on the Xbox too without having to buy two versions of the game, thinks I would like your opinion

I'm sorry if I posted in the wrong place.

[🍋 Lemonfed 🍋]

there is too much games that is on steam but not the microsoft store for microsoft play anywhere to really be a game changer.

[Zekiran]

Honestly I don't know why they hadn't done it long before now, given that Xbox IS a Microsoft product... and they make the lion's share of PCs....

[Winged One]

Escrito originalmente por Zekiran:

and they make the lion's share of PCs....

not really.. while they are responsible for the OS, microsoft themselves aren't major players in the actual hardware game..

[Zekiran]

Uh, no, but they *make both Xbox and PC* product lines. It's always been in their best interests to have this crossover.

[cSg|mc-Hotsauce]

Nothing is going to happen to Steam because of that. Kind of late to the party though, huh?

[Drago]

Escrito originalmente por cSg|mc-Hotsauce:

Nothing is going to happen to Steam because of that. Kind of late to the party though, huh?

:qr:

thank you for your comment I was quite worried about it !, I hope you are not thinking that my intention was to cause trouble, it wasn't my intention, I was really bothered with this.

Escrito originalmente por Zekiran:

Honestly I don't know why they hadn't done it long before now, given that Xbox IS a Microsoft product... and they make the lion's share of PCs....

Escrito originalmente por Lemonfed:

there is too much games that is on steam but not the microsoft store for microsoft play anywhere to really be a game changer.

Escrito originalmente por theseraph1:

Escrito originalmente por Zekiran:

and they make the lion's share of PCs....

not really.. while they are responsible for the OS, microsoft themselves aren't major players in the actual hardware game..

Thank you for all your comments and opinions!

[cSg|mc-Hotsauce]

Escrito originalmente por DarioLBR:

Escrito originalmente por cSg|mc-Hotsauce:

Nothing is going to happen to Steam because of that. Kind of late to the party though, huh?

thank you for your comment I was quite worried about it !, I hope you are not thinking that my intention was to cause trouble, it wasn't my intention, I was really bothered with this.

You're good. Just that this has been discussed before and thought it was funny that you only now asked about it.

[Drago]

Escrito originalmente por cSg|mc-Hotsauce:

Escrito originalmente por DarioLBR:

thank you for your comment I was quite worried about it !, I hope you are not thinking that my intention was to cause trouble, it wasn't my intention, I was really bothered with this.

You're good. Just that this has been discussed before and thought it was funny that you only now asked about it.

:qr:

our not really, is that I'm not much in the news and I only saw it a short time, so kind of scared me, sorry if I showed a slightly wrong image.
And sorry for my english that is not so good, but I hope you have understood.
Thank you so much, and have a good night!

[Mikasa Ackerman]

as long as MS keeps Rare Replay ( mostly Banjo Kazooie and Tooie) Xbox exclusive trhe only MS game i play is Minecraft ( and i bought my account years before MS took over anyway)

if they are serious about wanting to be relevant on pc , thats a game many would want , would buy it day 1 ( only if its on Steam like Cuphead tho )

[cinedine]

Escrito originalmente por Zekiran:

Uh, no, but they *make both Xbox and PC* product lines. It's always been in their best interests to have this crossover.

And yet they have neglected PC gaming for ages and only cared in short bursts that quickly died. Microsoft makes money in the enterprise/B2B sector - Windows, Microsoft SQL Server, Office, Azure. XBox is their gaming division and why should they care about PC? They need to shift the consoles as well.

[Start_Running]

Isn't that more or less what Steam did with PC games being able to play on Linux, Mac, and PC. Also yeah. MS can do that because the X-Box is basically a pc running a streamlined windows OS.

[socalgamer]

or Microsoft could possibly just buy Steam and have it all

[Satoru]

CrossPlay on microsoft is 'nice' but it has a lot of major problems that hamper it

Firstly it has the exact same issues that GOG has. Steam is the curator for GOG and PlayAnywhere. it fundamentally is. Stuff only ends up on those other platforms once its popular on Steam. So unless its a Microsoft 1st party game where they're gonna make it Win10 only straight out of the gate, everything else goes through Steam first regardless. Then it becomes popular, then the dev wants to get it on consoles, then they integrate playanywhere. But by that time you're basically at 'peak' and you probably already bought it on steam if you were even remotely interested. So sure xbox users get a free copy on PC. But xbox users dont care about it being on PC. PC users by and large would have already bought it on steam so its redundant that the console version comes wiht a PC version.

Second microsoft has so few tentpole franchises taht people WANT to play. And MS hasn't even put Halo on Play Anywhere, which is literally the only thing people probably would want that is an xbox exclusive. This ties into the recent 'rumours' that MS was going to buy out steam ( which is dumb but I have another post for that). They have nothing to leverage the xbox plaform to PC users and console users. The few win10 PC exclusives they've done have bombed out pretty spectacularly (Quantum break anyone, oh and I just got that on Humble too). Microsofts problems on the console are paralleled by their issues on PC. They don't have content that really makes people want to 'switch'. Especially when the switch is from the #1 store on the PC with all your friends and all new games on it before it ends up on xbox

Fundamentally the reasons steam is successful is the same reasons why a game wont end up on xbox. Steam is more dev friendly. Easy to get games on steam. No certification required. Zero cost to do any kind of patch whether 10GB or 1MB in size. Unless Microsoft is throwing a dev metric tons of money to make a game a Win10 exclusive, why woudl a dev put a game on Windows 10 but not steam. Win10 store is the laughing stock of the app community. No one wants to be on it. There's not a lot of upsides to making your game win10 exclusive unless you're wanting MS to be your publisher so you get tons of up front money to do so. Companies might to a timed exclusive in exhange for money, but most devs need ALL revenue streams so they can't afford not to be on the #1 platform on the PC side unless MS sends them tons of money to make up for that lost revenue.

Ultimately PlayAnywhere has the same issues that all faux competitors to steam have. They copy steam in all the wrong ways and then wonder why they are 'that other client i install other than steam"

[computerchy]

what i thinking is microsoft and steam have to cooperate if microsoft guys are thinking to make their store better , let valve get rights to manage your store and run their policy to support game makers and devs , and microsoft fot XBOX , personally i see some games are better to be run on TVs rather than PC , XBOX will be a big help , ( steamlink + contoller , steam machine ..... ! , XBOX would solve and achieve what couldnt steam do for living room ) , and the devs got less headaches optimising their games for known console specification to make their games run smoothly for everyone , thats the benifits i see ( yea and then no more thumbs down review because a game is not running )

[Tito Shivan]

Let's not forget the day that Microsoft's Play Anywhere resulted in people who bought CoD IW on the windows store couldn't play it with any other PC game owner and they had to issue a lot of refunds.