Why Valve are approving games like this?

[VλλK CSGOSKINS cs2cases.pro]

https://store.steampowered.com/app/847250/GAY_Nation_a_Gay_Game_for_Gays_GAYS_ONLY/
visual novel games went to far
first drama and love story then showing sexuall underaged girl to full hentai visual novel games
now they are approving this "gay game"
https://store.steampowered.com/app/866890/Active_Shooter/
now this game
"Real Life situations"
looks like this game want to get attention from the last shooting events that occured
like how valve approved them in the first place?

[dynastystar]

Start_Running původně napsal:

Uncle původně napsal:

The whole [GAYS ONLY] thing might be a problem.

Does that mean, I get to create "White Nation"?

Why not. Many VN's may as well have been subtitled :"Hets Only". THAt's sort of the joke being referenced by the title. And for a good chunk of gaming history , heck even today the fact that the protagonist is most always a grizzled white dude, or a hot white chick... yeah.

Just saying that if you want to start splitting hairs, you have to cut both ways. hatred exists.

you'd actually be surprised on the "hets" part. For example, there's an entire section of dlsite dedicated to people who find guys attractive(which they label it as the "girls" section). I imagine there are plenty of bara visual novels on there. http://www.dlsite.com/ecchi-eng/girls That is for the "adult" side of things, when you get to the site there's a button you can click for the English All Ages section, and a button to click for the English 18+ section which the "girls" button is absent for all ages. Just view anything with the "Boy's Love" tag. As for lesbian romances, there's plenty of that on Steam and I imagine on dlsite as well.

[Zugbug]

School shooter that is over he line, if that gets approved steam loses a customer

[cinedine]

You know what I find funny. Back when Hatred was discussed people were claiming "it's video game violence, get over it" up to "if you have problem with this, you are the problem".
Hatred was removed from Steam. Completely reasonable as Steam did not carry Ao rated games then. It was subsequently restored, allegedly because Gabe Newell himself got involved.

People are overly defensive about their video games and "freedom of expresssion". Some ofthem are now imploring Steam to not release that game on their service, which akes to censoring - "if you're not on Steam you might as well not exist" still holds true.

I welcome that the dialog changed a bit from allowing everything without question to at least have a discussion about it. But don't be so hypocritic to be outraged over this mediocre at best game when the industry still produces blood and gore and stereotypic enemy images on a daily basis.
And don't turn on this one video game "becuase the humanity" if you are raging about politician doing the same. Especially don't turn on a video game as a factor for shootings in the US when you ridiculed it before.

Blocking this game has literally no effect at all on the situation in the US.

[dynastystar]

cinedine původně napsal:

You know what I find funny. Back when Hatred was discussed people were claiming "it's video game violence, get over it" up to "if you have problem with this, you are the problem".
Hatred was removed from Steam. Completely reasonable as Steam did not carry Ao rated games then. It was subsequently restored, allegedly because Gabe Newell himself got involved.

People are overly defensive about their video games and "freedom of expresssion". Some ofthem are now imploring Steam to not release that game on their service, which akes to censoring - "if you're not on Steam you might as well not exist" still holds true.

I welcome that the dialog changed a bit from allowing everything without question to at least have a discussion about it. But don't be so hypocritic to be outraged over this mediocre at best game when the industry still produces blood and gore and stereotypic enemy images on a daily basis.
And don't turn on this one video game "becuase the humanity" if you are raging about politician doing the same. Especially don't turn on a video game as a factor for shootings in the US when you ridiculed it before.

Blocking this game has literally no effect at all on the situation in the US.

Hope you enjoy GTA 8 or whatever number we're at that point being blocked on Steam in 10 years with that attitude, or an equivalent product thats made by a smaller studio because GTA at least is guaranteed to sell(if its not outlawed to sell such games in 10 years), or developers are too scared to make such a game like it because of the chilling effect of not being allowed on console or in stores has.

[Dr.Shadowds 🐉]

Let's let this clear, Steam does not cater to no one, it goes by the rules it has set, it same idea when you publish a book with certain publishers, same idea with videos for youtube, etc...

But oh no! Gays!!! My life is ruin, because.... Umm.... Because they're not straight, or because their pigment of their skin is not the colour of the superior race. <--- it's sarcasm if you're too dumb to get it.

Grow the **** up! If you got problems with people being straight, bi, or gay, then you got problems, and probably shouldn't be on the internet to begin with, just my two cents.

The active shooter seem like an interesting game, but let be real, how many games, movies, comics, tv shows do we already have involving schools, and guns? I don't see anyone complaing about movies, comics, and tv shows, only pinning it on games...

If people want to do something about school shootings in America, they need to stop this run around bs... Let give teacher guns, oh yea that's totally better... Let take the guns away, hmm not exactly going to change anything... Maybe check the staff, and student's mental health state, as that can help greatly on checking who has issues, maybe make sure students ain't getting bully, maybe don't encourage people to get guns at all, maybe focus what's going on in the schools... These are just some of the idea's to help reduce the chances of school shooting from happening.

-edit-
Had to edit a sentence because of phone.

[Mikasa Ackerman]

Zugbug původně napsal:

School shooter that is over he line, if that gets approved steam loses a customer

and you really think they care about a single customer who has bought 22 Games in 8 Years

sorry to inform you , but steam really couldnt care less about someone like you
you really should watch cartoon wars (South Park) censorship is bad . if they dont allow this game because a few are upset , next some radical pacifists will get tf2 csgo and pubg banned , next the lol fans will get offended and valve will have to delete dota 2 , strife and smite and after some time there are no games left

also , i wont buy the game , but i am still happy games dont get held back by offended people or other things like that

[Mikasa Ackerman]

Spawk původně napsal:

Dr.Shadowds 🐉 původně napsal:

Let's let this clear, Steam does not cater to no one, it goes by the rules it has set, it same idea when you publish a book with certain publishers, same idea with videos for youtube, etc...

But oh no! Gays!!! My life is ruin, because.... Umm.... Because they're not straight, or because their pigment of their skin is not the colour of the superior race. <--- it's sarcasm if you're too dumb to get it.

I think you're kind of missing the point. The game OP linked to is about killing straight people. Now imagine it was the other way around and the game was about killing gay people. I wouldn't want my company to be involved with that sort of thing, nor would I want it to be involved with any game where the entire premise is that you kill people solely based on ethnicity, religion, sexual orientation, etc.

then there could be no game about the crusades , or any historical wars

[Dr.Shadowds 🐉]

Spawk původně napsal:

Dr.Shadowds 🐉 původně napsal:

Let's let this clear, Steam does not cater to no one, it goes by the rules it has set, it same idea when you publish a book with certain publishers, same idea with videos for youtube, etc...

But oh no! Gays!!! My life is ruin, because.... Umm.... Because they're not straight, or because their pigment of their skin is not the colour of the superior race. <--- it's sarcasm if you're too dumb to get it.

I think you're kind of missing the point. The game OP linked to is about killing straight people. Now imagine it was the other way around and the game was about killing gay people. I wouldn't want my company to be involved with that sort of thing, nor would I want it to be involved with any game where the entire premise is that you kill people solely based on ethnicity, religion, sexual orientation, etc.

I'm probably am missing the point to that game op has link because I don't know the story for it, or how it ends, but I was clear on if people have problems with others being into whatever, they need to go check themselves.

Now I wouldn't know the game about, as it could be completely different than just the small details alone on the store page, just going by that alone doesn't sound like you're giving it a chance at all, plus this is a virtual novel, pretty much a story.

Now when it coming to how you want to run your company that would be your own business, not anyone else, if Valve/Steam wants the game to be gone, they would have already declined it from the start, or removed it by now.

[Dr.Shadowds 🐉]

Spawk původně napsal:

Dr.Shadowds 🐉 původně napsal:

I'm probably am missing the point to that game op has link because I don't know the story for it, or how it ends, but I was clear on if people have problems with others being into whatever, they need to go check themselves.

Now I wouldn't know the game about, as it could be completely different than just the small details alone on the store page, just going by that alone doesn't sound like you're giving it a chance at all, plus this is a virtual novel, pretty much a story.

Now when it coming to how you want to run your company that would be your own business, not anyone else, if Valve/Steam wants the game to be gone, they would have already declined it from the start, or removed it by now.

You could just read the store page or watch the game's trailer, you know. The game has not been approved, as stated on its store page, and things like 'the gay bomb was very succesful [sic]. Most straights are dead' is pretty indicative of where the memelord behind the game is going with it.

"Now I wouldn't know the game about, as it could be completely different than just the small details alone on the store page, just going by that alone doesn't sound like you're giving it a chance at all, plus this is a virtual novel, pretty much a story." What was not clear to you?

I wouldn't know what the person intent with this games, because none of us even knows the whole story of the game, and i'm not talking about store page, i'm talking about from start of the game, to the end of game, it's same idea behind reading the back of the VHS tape, or DVD case, and just judging it on that only without watching it, basically what you're doing. I'm not going to tell you that you're right, or wrong, it is your choice to choose what you want to do for yourself, but doesn't change what I said before.

"if Valve/Steam wants the game to be gone, they would have already declined it from the start, or removed it by now."
Look at that Active Shooter store page just got remove, it could be permanently, or only temporary.

[Seraphita]

Let's hope for permanently since the intentions of the dev are VERY clear. He just really hid his intentions behind blankets to appear less worse than it is. Asset flippers being lazy as usual...

[Start_Running]

Zero původně napsal:

Let's hope for permanently since the intentions of the dev are VERY clear. He just really hid his intentions behind blankets to appear less worse than it is. Asset flippers being lazy as usual...

Again. still not sure what the big uproar was. If Hatred and Postal can exist, why not that?

[Dr.Shadowds 🐉]

Start_Running původně napsal:

Zero původně napsal:

Let's hope for permanently since the intentions of the dev are VERY clear. He just really hid his intentions behind blankets to appear less worse than it is. Asset flippers being lazy as usual...

Again. still not sure what the big uproar was. If Hatred and Postal can exist, why not that?

People were so quick to judge Hatred, without even know much about it back then, the hype, and all the media about it died out, and forgotten. If the dev intend with Active shooter was specifically to make fun of real misfortunate events, then he will have what coming to him in no time, it's simple as that. But I don't think that was the intend is at the very least IMO ATM.

[Start_Running]

Dr.Shadowds 🐉 původně napsal:

Start_Running původně napsal:

Again. still not sure what the big uproar was. If Hatred and Postal can exist, why not that?

People were so quick to judge Hatred, without even know much about it back then, the hype, and all the media about it died out, and forgotten. If the dev intend with Active shooter was specifically to make fun of real misfortunate events, then he will have what coming to him in no time, it's simple as that.

And yeah, how is it different from Hatred or Postal or You're a crazy guy murdering people who had the bad luck of being in your postal code. I mean Sensitivity aside, it smacks of internet drama to me.

Then again I recall similar things about games in the wake of 9-11., so I guess it's nothing new there either. Game where you;'re a white guy gunning down inner city black dudes - Fine., Assymetric game where you play as shooters and swat agents--bad.

[dynastystar]

Start_Running původně napsal:

Dr.Shadowds 🐉 původně napsal:

People were so quick to judge Hatred, without even know much about it back then, the hype, and all the media about it died out, and forgotten. If the dev intend with Active shooter was specifically to make fun of real misfortunate events, then he will have what coming to him in no time, it's simple as that.

And yeah, how is it different from Hatred or Postal or You're a crazy guy murdering people who had the bad luck of being in your postal code. I mean Sensitivity aside, it smacks of internet drama to me.

Then again I recall similar things about games in the wake of 9-11., so I guess it's nothing new there either. Game where you;'re a white guy gunning down inner city black dudes - Fine., Assymetric game where you play as shooters and swat agents--bad.

wait, where did black people come into it?

[El poco nuez del muerte]

Dr.Shadowds 🐉 původně napsal:

But oh no! Gays!!! My life is ruin, because.... Umm.... Because they're not straight, or because their pigment of their skin is not the colour of the superior race. <--- it's sarcasm if you're too dumb to get it.

Grow the **** up! If you got problems with people being straight, bi, or gay, then you got problems, and probably shouldn't be on the internet to begin with, just my two cents.

Or maybe the issue is the "...who hunts down any remaining straights.". I know, I know, that doesn't fit your strawman, but let's be real here, if it said "who hunts down any remaining gays." you'd be singing a different tune.

Edit: Come to think of it, this might be a misunderstanding. I get the impression that you didn't read the game description and thought the OP had an issue with a game about gay people. But I don't think that is it, I think the OPs issue is that the game, in jest or not, says that it puts the player in charge of comitting genocide. Which would be unacceptable with any other group and should be unacceptable with any group period.