valve please stop the chase over visual novels and oriental games

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https://twitter.com/HuniePotDev/status/997257011384340482

https://twitter.com/HuniePotDev/status/997258547397148675

why do not they do all this chase over games like gta V and the witcher III? just because they are western games and moreover AAA?

[MalXenos]

Thanks steam with this going ahead I think i will never buy anything else on your store front

[Regret and Redemption]

引用自 Spawn of Totoro：

引用自 Kats：

Neither are some of the titles that receieved these notices.

Most of them were though, except for maybe one, though I haven't been to it's game hub to see.

I've been watching the thread for awhile, and this quote here tells me your full of ♥♥♥♥ - you're clogging the thread with inane semantics - and what's worse, you clearly don't even have first-hand knowledge of the games in question, apparently.

[Spawn of Totoro]

引用自 Kats：

Could also mention that the games in question have been up on Steam for several years.

Not really a factor, to be honest.

If an automated system was just put in place, then it wouldn't account for the age of a game, just the number of reports since it was started.

引用自 theseraph1：

now Spawn, I am not sure of what level of communication you have with the powers that be (or if you are even able to answer this question), but have you ever reccomended more severe penalties for such actions?

if there are in fact people who have done it and gotten bans hundreds of times, those users would sound more like the cause and less like a symptom

For most, 1 image ban = 1 day ban works fine.

We have made suggestions and have a whole thread of them, but that is as much as we can do.

I have only experianced a few of that level, so it isn't common, but you also have thousands of accounts uploading similar images too, it becomes rather hard to keep up for any system.

Then again, it also depends on the reasons behind it, something we can only guess at. It is best, though, to remember we are only making guesses at it and not stating facts. That I think, is one of the larger issues in these discussions.

引用自 Regret and Redemption：

I've been watching the thread for awhile, and this quote here tells me your full of ♥♥♥♥ - you're clogging the thread with inane semantics - and what's worse, you clearly don't even have first-hand knowledge of the games in question, apparently.

My knowledge is from screenshots user post and what is said in the game's forums.

Take that how you will.

The semantics however, are true.

Clearly though, you have not kept up or you would have read my stance on the overall issue the thread is in reguards to.

[Kats]

引用自 rincewind：

And I will say it again. Kindred Spirits it's actually tamer than witcher.
That's why never had a patch.

This.

There you have one game that is less explicit than Witcher.
HuniePop I'd argue is less explicit as well, might look worse at a glance but that's it.

[fhqwhgads]

Nothing about this strikes me as good. It seems rather arbitrary and ridiculous. Will they start targeting games with adult mods next? I mean that makes about as much sense as targeting games that need off-steam patches to actually be "pornographic". And it makes no sense at all to target games like Huniepop and Kindred Spirits on the Roof which have been on Steam for years without issue.

Apparently nobody is able to get any clarification from Valve on this either, all the talking is being done by the Developers. At the very least the people doing the purge need to say something beyond a vague form letter. After all, they say they're being targeted for "pornographic content", but obviously several of these developers submitted their games under the assumption that the guidelines were, in fact, being followed. If they weren't, then the guidelines need clarification.

[Kats]

引用自 Napstablook：

Nothing about this strikes me as good. It seems rather arbitrary and ridiculous. Will they start targeting games with adult mods next? I mean that makes about as much sense as targeting games that need off-steam patches to actually be "pornographic". And it makes no sense at all to target a game like Huniepop and Kindred Spirits on the Roof which have been on Steam for years without issue.

Apparently nobody is able to get any clarification from Valve on this either, all the talking is being done by the Developers. At the very least the people doing the purge need to say something beyond a vague form letter. After all, they say they're being targeted for "pornographic content", but obviously several of these developers submitted their games under the assumption that the guidelines were, in fact, being followed. If they weren't, then the guidelines need clarification.

HuniePotDev hasn't gotten a respond yet lol.
You'd bloody think they'd talk with the developers in question at the very least.

[Spawn of Totoro]

引用自 Kats：

This.

There you have one game that is less explicit than Witcher.
HuniePop I'd argue is less explicit as well, might look worse at a glance but that's it.

Not with the uncensored patch in place and that may be the issue.

引用自 Kats：

HuniePotDev hasn't gotten a respond yet lol.
You'd bloody think they'd TALK with the developers in question at the very least.

I'm looking forword to hearing the response, but Valve time and all.

I do wish they would be better at communication.

[mimizukari]

引用自 Kats：

引用自 rincewind：

And I will say it again. Kindred Spirits it's actually tamer than witcher.
That's why never had a patch.

This.

There you have one game that is less explicit than Witcher.
HuniePop I'd argue is less explicit as well, might look worse at a glance but that's it.

It's about context. Witcher is a grand story, and it's the natural progression of this epic, whose focus is not on sexual content WHATSOEVER! Kindred Spirits is about exploring sexuality, and huniepop is literally.... sex the match 3.

[Regret and Redemption]

引用自 Regret and Redemption：

I've been watching the thread for awhile, and this quote here tells me your full of ♥♥♥♥ - you're clogging the thread with inane semantics - and what's worse, you clearly don't even have first-hand knowledge of the games in question, apparently.

引用自 Spawn of Totoro：

My knowledge is from screenshots user post and what is said in the game's forums.

Take that how you will.

The semantics however, are true.

Clearly though, you have not kept up or you would have read my stance on the overall issue the thread is in reguards to.

I have been, and I understand you claim to be playing devils advocate - but you are quick to sweep posts into past pages that have relevant information regarding the group responsible for the takedowns - or the fact the group is spreading misinformation about the content and context of said games.

Honestly, on one hand I see it as reasonable debate, on the other hand I see it as filler, distracting away from the real issue.

[Kats]

引用自 Spawn of Totoro：

引用自 Kats：

This.

There you have one game that is less explicit than Witcher.
HuniePop I'd argue is less explicit as well, might look worse at a glance but that's it.

Not with the uncensored patch in place and that may be the issue.

Kindred Spirits has no patch, it uncensored on Steam right now.
HuniePop, ye, it has a patch, removes panties, adds some liquids, so I could understand that one.

In the grand scheme of things, I'd still call Witcher 3 worse than HuniePop tbh.

引用自 Yuiko：

Kindred Spirits is about exploring sexuality, and huniepop is literally.... sex the match 3.

HuniePop has nothing but a few images, where as Witcher 3 has fullblown scenes.
So like I said above, yes, the images are more explicit in HuniePop, but it doesn't boast fully animated scenes.

Kindred Spirits: You're exploring love, and sexuality.
For 25+ hours of constant reading, with the "sex scenes" being at most 5 minutes each.
A few show boobs, some don't. You don't see, or read anything super explicit during any of these scenes, they are cute little scenes for the characters to show affection.

I really do fail to see what makes Witcher any different.

[Spawn of Totoro]

引用自 Kats：

Kindred Spirits has no patch, it uncensored on Steam right now.
HuniePop, ye, it has a patch, removes panties, adds some liquids, so I could understand that one, sort of.

Witcher 3 I still believe is worse, it's fully animated, might not show as much as HuniePop does but it's still practically porn.

What is shown is what makes the difference. I've seen the scense in the Witcher 3 and compared to the screenshots I have seen of Honiepop, I can see a difference.

But that aspect is more of a difference of out personal opinions though.

[Junk]

引用自 Murgen：

1. Steam needs an adult only section.

2. Steam needs to clearly state WHY these games are being pulled. Some of them have been on Steam for years with no problems!

3. The moral hypocrisy of this must be continually re-emphasized until someone at Valve takes notice. Kids being able to buy a game where you brutally kill people for the most frivolous reasons in the most gruesome way is perfectly OK, but heaven forbid that same kid should see an uncensored anime boob!

1: Yes
2: They are pulling a Google here, broad rules where they reserve themselves the right to ban games for any reason without actually saying it.
3: GTA4: Strippers, Paid lap dances, tits. Massive double standards.

[[TKD] Teaspoon]

引用自 Junk：

引用自 Murgen：

1. Steam needs an adult only section.

2. Steam needs to clearly state WHY these games are being pulled. Some of them have been on Steam for years with no problems!

3. The moral hypocrisy of this must be continually re-emphasized until someone at Valve takes notice. Kids being able to buy a game where you brutally kill people for the most frivolous reasons in the most gruesome way is perfectly OK, but heaven forbid that same kid should see an uncensored anime boob!

1: Yes
2: They are pulling a Google here, broad rules where they reserve themselves the right to ban games for any reason without actually saying it.
3: GTA4: Strippers, Paid lap dances, tits. Massive double standards.

Basically if it's a top seller then it's safe.

[Spawn of Totoro]

引用自 Junk：

3: GTA4: Strippers, Paid lap dances, tits. Massive double standards.

Not really.

Lap dance vs. explicit sexual content.

There are different levels that can be considered acceptable or not.

[Falsus Te Deum]

It is kinda strange that it is just small dev's for niche market that is targeted.